Swiming

So I am unsure if others have posted something about this but here goes. I do remember SE saying something about the maybe adding swimming into the game when people were asking if we could jump. (during 1.0) My question is, does SE still have plans to add this into the game? I think it would be really cool.
Thoughts?

They mentioned it every now and then, saying that it'd be an interesting addition to the game, but they always made it sound like it was something to consider for a far future anyway.

Not particularly sure why they are so resistant to it anyway. Jumping may not serve a purpose,but I can't stand a game without it. Just jumping for random fun eases me.

On another note...there's way too many invisible walls

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Originally Posted by Karnyboy

On another note...there's way too many invisible walls

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I'd say invisible walls are exactly why SE is taking the long view on MAYBE adding swimming. There are many, many places in the game where map boundaries are set by water. If players could swim, SE would need to reevaluate those areas to ensure that players aren't able to reach places they shouldn't be able to reach - and if they can, would need to add different obstacles to prevent swimmers from doing so.

In other words, it's not just something cute they can toss in. It's something that would take a lot of work to evaluate the impact.

There's also the issue of armor, particularly heavy armor. Can we swim in that? Could be jarring. How about medium armor, or clothing - do you swim slower? FFXIV takes a very much less "cartoonish" approach to the MMO genre than games like World of Warcraft do, and a WAR chugging along through the water wearing full Darklight Heavy Armor would be pretty silly.

Swimming serves no purpose. If people want water based content they need to be asking for areas/dungeons featuring a water breathing spell effect. Rather than a useless swimming feature where people will just end up bitching that they swam so far out that they hit an invisible wall this would allow for expanded content and under water fights like raiding a Sahagin base or fighting aquatic enemies that don't just magically float around in mid air.

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Originally Posted by PlanckZero

under water fights

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oh god please please please please no

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I'd say invisible walls are exactly why SE is taking the long view on MAYBE adding swimming. There are many, many places in the game where map boundaries are set by water. If players could swim, SE would need to reevaluate those areas to ensure that players aren't able to reach places they shouldn't be able to reach - and if they can, would need to add different obstacles to prevent swimmers from doing so.

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Fatigue followed by drowning if you swim too far.

Unless we have some sort of exploration underwater, i dont really see a reason to have swimming, unless of course some RP'ers enjoy their time at the beach and want to go for a swim.

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Originally Posted by PlanckZero

under water fights

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This is FF14, not nintendo fail era Monster Hunter where fighting underwater makes no damn sense because your gear is so damn heavy you would just sink straight to the bottom in first place.

Granted, in FF we are defying some physical laws, such as running and jumping the way we do while wearing such heavy gear, but at the same time we do take fall damage. Fighting underwater would be the dumbest thing ever, because when effects like heavy exist, and you have the green crap in toto-rak, your movement underwater should be seriously effected as well. If swimming was added, it should be more of a leisure ability to have fun with, or a new type of fishing(spear fishing anyone? I know that would make fishing more worth doing in my eyes).

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Originally Posted by Ninix

oh god please please please please no

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Allods has decent enough under-water fighting content. it's not like it is something that would ruin the game.

but i do agree with the armor thing. it would be rather awkward to swim in that rather heavy looking armor. i think if they ever did any under-water content. they would make an expansion or DLC out of it.

Underwater battles like in X would be cool. I imagine they could make lakes their own instances and/or patch in access to bodies of water one by one.

Swimming in Costa del Sol anyone? We already have the gear for that. I don't think the animation issues would be impossible given how all classes now use basically the same mo-cap data.

Wouldn't mind under water battles if the only thing that would change is the design of the area. ;p
Looks like were underwater, monster *feels* like were underwater. so we just might be underwater. ! *But were really not! *
xD

No but on a serious note, really wish I could take a dip sometimes or /lay down in the water at Costa Del Sol - my sitting emote doesn't cut it sometimes. lol *Reminds me of all the times of sitting on Selbina's beaches staring out into the sunset - oh water if only you weren't so unreachable~* j/k

For the whole boundary thing I understand but correct me if I'm wrong. Back when I played WoW during a break from FFXI before TBC came out, I remember thinking "I'll try to swim from the night elf island place to the main continent." After a certain point there was a fatigue or something that prevented me from doing so and would kill me if I kept pressing on. Why not something like that?

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Originally Posted by Amiantos

For the whole boundary thing I understand but correct me if I'm wrong. Back when I played WoW during a break from FFXI before TBC came out, I remember thinking "I'll try to swim from the night elf island place to the main continent." After a certain point there was a fatigue or something that prevented me from doing so and would kill me if I kept pressing on. Why not something like that?

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This doesn't really change the amount of research and work SE would need to put into it. They'd still need to examine all current existing water-bordered areas to determine how quickly fatigue should set in to prevent folks from reaching places they shouldn't reach.

On the other hand, if folks just want to be able to swim because, hey, we have swimsuits, we should be able to swim somewhere, I could certainly see SE adding special self-contained areas where folks can do just that for fun, and possibly also with minigames involved. Costa del Sol seems like natural place to set something like that up. But implementing an all-around swim ability, where your character can dive right in as long as the water's deep enough? I don't see that happening anytimes soon, if ever.