What do you really need gil for at the moment.

Everytime I read rmt shouts and tells, I ask myself after blacklisting them.

So who buys gil, and what are they using it for?
SE even stated that they will look closely where gil came from for housing, so I rule that out.
Buying Crafting materials? I spent 300k on Carpenter 20-50 and earned 350k just by handing in the leves and selling the rest on Marketplace.
Repairs? Normally competition of Dungeons gives enough gil for that.

Buying gear on Marketplace? Apart from "rare" drops that can be sold like coliseum gear and such. As soon as you want to go endgame nothing crafted (at the moment) is worth it to take over Darklight and even less than Mytho or Allagan stuff

So, what is the deal? Am I missing something where I can invest my gil? Or are the RMT just for people that feel the need to have maximum possible gil, just in case they need to buy every HQ vanya they can find for god knows what?

ATM Gil feel to me about as useless as Orobon livers.

Buying primal/coil runs.

That's about it.

I wonder the same thing as well.

A month ago i was wondering the same thing, what am i using my gil on and how much does one actually need to survive. So i kept 5k on me and tossed the rest on my retainers. One month later i am at 11,550 gil, and that's with Only doing the 6 dailies, running coil and capping myth every week. Haven't touched my crafting or gathering in ages because there's nothing worth farming/gathering/crafting anymore.

They destroyed crafting and thus made gathering nearly absolete, yay me for having all my jobs lvled in 1.23 hoping it would put me ahead of the crowd, leveling the jobs is now just way too easy.

Gil is useless, so anything you leveled to make gil is pretty useless now too. Ofcours

Check my lodestone page and look at the Gryphonskin Ring I am wearing, and please again tell me that it isn't better than Darklight accessory. :)

It costs quite a bit of gil to make that, and it has been worth it. It probably won't be useful for too much longer with new ilevels coming, but it has been until that. I can't bring myself to replace it. Even ilvl 90 ring doesn't match it IMO.

But I guess right now it doesn't make much sense to do that, seeing as how we will have new gear at the next patch.

Gil for buying materials to continue decorating my FC house.

A prettiful house with a small vegetable garden and a statue of myself at the entrance.
A nice rocking chair on the porch looking out over the ocean, so I can ponder things such as, life, love, and fappiness.

Naked pictures.
And repair bills.

Not so much about what you can buy with gil now.

But i rather have a few million gil the day something DO arrive (like housing but maybe not that expensive) that is worth spending gil on.

Personal housing is gonna be one of those things.

repair bills

thats about it...unless I'm being nice.

In Final Fantasy games, what have you ever needed Gil for by endgame? Gil Toss ability. That's it.

Highly doubt Samurai will be getting that in XIV, so Gil is worthless outside vanity and mid-levels.

i buy shards. i spend alot of time progressing my battle classes, running coil, helping fc people and strangers with runs, and then with any spare time i gather and craft. because shards aren't really helping me level my gathers at all, i prefer to buy them and save my gather time for materials. i also buy materials that i might need large quantities of, or can't gather yet.

long story short......i pay for convenience.

Just goes to show how lazy gamers are these days that they resort to rmting even when everything can be obtained easily.

I assume:

Too lazy to make food.
Buy gear.
Buy runs.
Buy crafting supplies.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

Everytime I read rmt shouts and tells, I ask myself after blacklisting them.

So who buys gil, and what are they using it for?
SE even stated that they will look closely where gil came from for housing, so I rule that out.
Buying Crafting materials? I spent 300k on Carpenter 20-50 and earned 350k just by handing in the leves and selling the rest on Marketplace.
Repairs? Normally competition of Dungeons gives enough gil for that.

Buying gear on Marketplace? Apart from "rare" drops that can be sold like coliseum gear and such. As soon as you want to go endgame nothing crafted (at the moment) is worth it to take over Darklight and even less than Mytho or Allagan stuff

So, what is the deal? Am I missing something where I can invest my gil? Or are the RMT just for people that feel the need to have maximum possible gil, just in case they need to buy every HQ vanya they can find for god knows what?

ATM Gil feel to me about as useless as Orobon livers.

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You are simply incorrect that crafted gear is not better than DL. Pretty much ALL crafted gear is better than DL lol... Some crafted accessories are even better than ilvl90 ones. People who think Gil is worthless are generally those who have no idea how to gear appropriately.

extreme fights

I spend my gil from dailies and HMs on HQ items. Then I use them as turn ins for leves. Went from 35 crp to whatever I'm at now. I think leatherwork will be next.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

Everytime I read rmt shouts and tells, I ask myself after blacklisting them.

So who buys gil, and what are they using it for?
SE even stated that they will look closely where gil came from for housing, so I rule that out.
Buying Crafting materials? I spent 300k on Carpenter 20-50 and earned 350k just by handing in the leves and selling the rest on Marketplace.
Repairs? Normally competition of Dungeons gives enough gil for that.

Buying gear on Marketplace? Apart from "rare" drops that can be sold like coliseum gear and such. As soon as you want to go endgame nothing crafted (at the moment) is worth it to take over Darklight and even less than Mytho or Allagan stuff

So, what is the deal? Am I missing something where I can invest my gil? Or are the RMT just for people that feel the need to have maximum possible gil, just in case they need to buy every HQ vanya they can find for god knows what?

ATM Gil feel to me about as useless as Orobon livers.

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ERP, ERP, ERP

It makes leveling a crafting faster. I also used it to buy hq ilv 70 gear and accessories to use as an intermediate till I get full myth gear.

Also once golden saucers/ casino it should make it easier.

To save up for a rainy day. Never know when you might need that much money (like when FC housing prices were announced).

Food and repairs.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

You are simply incorrect that crafted gear is not better than DL. Pretty much ALL crafted gear is better than DL lol... Some crafted accessories are even better than ilvl90 ones. People who think Gil is worthless are generally those who have no idea how to gear appropriately.

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Which crafted piece of gear is better than an iLvL90 piece of gear?

And hf joining Party Finder with minimum Ilvl of 88 with things like this

I am sitting on 10, 081, 739 gil at the moment (yes, over 10 million) and have nothing (logical) to spend it on. Repairs cost me like 1500-2000gil each full repair - every other day. I can pay for a weeks worth of repairs selling a single random HQ item.

The only thing(s) I buy are tome mats -- but those I buy to turn around into a profit so after the initial cost I just get profits in return. I technically can afford a small house -- but 8 million gil is a little steep for something so pointless (imo). I won't do anything in there, so (for me) pointless.

I'm not fussed though. Most MMOs are like that. If you can make stuff, you don't buy stuff -- therefore your wallet just gets bigger and bigger. My FC are super jelly at my gil but I just ask them what they would do with 10 million gil they cant (logically/beneficially) do with 10 thousand. no one answers :D

Out side of leveling up alts and repair bills gill is pretty useless. This game has a dead economy because nothing on the MB is worth buying. SE needs to make crafted gear as good as raid gear and then everyone could make money.

Repair bills, good looking gear, buying mats for turbo levequest if I feel lazy to gather, teleport, minion, etc

Leveling crafting and gathering is what eats up most of my gil. That and saving for a house. I'm not one of those people who have all DoH and DoL maxed, so I end up buying certain mats and all equips. I've gotten so broke I couldn't use 100gil teleports. But I don't buy gil.

People that buy gil are using it for the same reasons anyone else is trying to legitimately earn gil. They just know their chances of being caught aren't very high and find the risk work the reward. There's so obviously still a high market for RMT in this game or the spammers and bots would go away. Lots of people are cheating and they are profiting with cash.

A house. I've always thought housing in MMORPGs should be something that's open to anyone that wants to put in a bit of work. But the extreme, absurd effort required here is just insane.

That's not to say I'm going to buy gil. In fact, at this point, I'm leaning towards just quitting. I'm so terribly disinterested in all that the current endgame has to offer, and as the 'meta game' that is housing is denied to me, that's pretty much it for me. While the overall community is better, FFXIV feels a lot like BC WoW... with no serious PvP alternative. I really enjoyed the storyline up to 50, but it's like The Old Republic all over again.

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A house. I've always thought housing in MMORPGs should be something that's open to anyone that wants to put in a bit of work. But the extreme, absurd effort required here is just insane.

That's not to say I'm going to buy gil. In fact, at this point, I'm leaning towards just quitting. I'm so terribly disinterested in all that the current endgame has to offer, and as the 'meta game' that is housing is denied to me, that's pretty much it for me. While the overall community is better, FFXIV feels a lot like BC WoW... with no serious PvP alternative. I really enjoyed the storyline up to 50, but it's like The Old Republic all over again.

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The reason why housing costs so much is because SE is trying to curve inflation. FFXI had a huge inflation problem. But I think they are trying to curve inflation a liitte too much. I have 5 50's and I have about 20k to my name. Its a joke!

I thought housing was expensive because it was limited.

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The reason why housing costs so much is because SE is trying to curve inflation. FFXI had a huge inflation problem. But I think they are trying to curve inflation a liitte too much. I have 5 50's and I have about 20k to my name. Its a joke!

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Just SB everything you can. Hope for some good materia. Market them. It usually lasts me for some time until I start leve burning for crafts.

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Originally Posted by Blissa

The reason why housing costs so much is because SE is trying to curve inflation. FFXI had a huge inflation problem. But I think they are trying to curve inflation a liitte too much. I have 5 50's and I have about 20k to my name. Its a joke!

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Yes, 20k is a joke ^^
You can earn it in 4 days if you are lazy

Hmmm.. right now I spend gil on Grade 5 Dark Matter, shards, teleports, chocobo porters and the last couple of crafting materia I need.
Which is all much less than I make, once I am done with materias I can probably even go back to making dungeons and (repeatable) quests a main source of income...

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Naaaaah!

For everything else I am completely self-sufficient.

Ah well, we'll see if personal housing is going to be something to sink gil into.

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Buying gear on Marketplace? Apart from "rare" drops that can be sold like coliseum gear and such. As soon as you want to go endgame nothing crafted (at the moment) is worth it to take over Darklight

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The iLevel 70 crafted gear would like a word with you. Buying 1m gil is sooooooo much easier than umpteen WP/AK/DR runs.

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Which crafted piece of gear is better than an iLvL90 piece of gear?

And hf joining Party Finder with minimum Ilvl of 88 with things like this

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It's a matter of opinion, but judge for yourself. This is what I wear on my BRD.

I90 Hero's Ring of Aiming - 13dex, 16crit 8dtr

I70 Gryphonskin Ring - 9str 9dex 12acc 9skill speed 8vit 12crit 8dtr

The strength makes it a viable ring for my DRG and MNK also. The 8vit has saved my life long enough to hit a LB3 and save entire groups. I will not trade all of that for 4 more dex. I do plenty of damage and out-DPS any BRD I group with.

I wouldn't deck out body-worn in crafted, because that just isn't better. But accessories can be melded to be far better than i70 DL, even comparable to i90. IMO, they are better because of the wide array of high # stats you receive with level 4 materia melds.