Apkallu Egg's - Bots there 24/7 - Reported over 3 months - NO ACTION

Hello all,

The main point of this thread is try and get attention to the Apkallu Egg bot's in Costa del Sol (x 28, y 35). Now according to the Form's rules and policies I may not post any information about the specific's of the character. So I will try and be as ambiguous as possible. This should provide zero reasons for a Forum moderator to remove this post, as I am not breaking any rules "If I am, I am sure to be possibly banned".

The one character I have seen and I am hinting at, is always playing a Level 50 BARD. You can go to these cordinates, (x 28, y 35) in Costa del Sol and see this character standing there now.

If Square-Enix need's help in analyzing the information which I would hope be logged in the Database, they can always hire me on as I am a Systems Engineer. I will gladly do the work they are obviously not. :mad:

Another note to Square-Enix. If you are going to enforce a character count on forum posts, you should include a character count tracker. There is absolutely no reason not to, as it would be a client-side JavaScript handler and not put any additional load on the Server; considering the Server is processing and validation the character count already and relaying this info on POST BACK. Poor design or just lazy on Square's part.

Square Enix bans in waves so they have time to analyze and investigate the botters before they can ban them.

I'm sure you'll see that bard removed from the game soon, please look forward to it!

:^)

We can only hope!

They need to put the eggs on vendors.

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Originally Posted by Wobble

They need to put the eggs on vendors.

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No, they don't. If they did that, the bots would just move on to something else. Moving the eggs only solves 1 bot problem. Removing the bots solves the bigger issue (in theory).

I feel your pain. Since before Christmas, I've been reporting the same 2 bots farming snurble tufts on my server. It's getting to the point that what with the botting, the gil selling, the psychotic party requirements, the housing prices and the lazy game design choices, I'm having a harder and harder time actually wanting to log in.

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Originally Posted by Dotnet

We can only hope!

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You have a higher chance to be banned/suspended before that actually happening.

And I would be ok with that, because I know I at least tried to get some attention to this lingering problem. I have talked to so many people afraid to post on the forums because of it.

It will always be a lingering issue. The problem is ppl got so bored and disheartened and moved on to other issues.

And yes, the slient treatment we getting. And the "..you are all a vocal minority" crowds tips things further down.

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Originally Posted by Wobble

They need to put the eggs on vendors.

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Please, no. We don't need to kill one of the few supply/demand items left in the economy.

Be careful who you call a bot. I've been working on crafting lately, and almost every single time I go farming items, about 15 minutes later someone is /telling me to check if I'm a bot. It's annoying and rude. My guess is it's mostly people who are being territorial over mats.

The only thing I can say is, don't let the bots botting get to you. Nor SE's "lack of response". Avoid the area so you don't have to be reminded that they are there. I use to get so frustrated when I was out mining, reporting on bots, mining... more reporting. Only to see them there time and again. It made the activity unenjoyable. So, rather than let it raise my blood pressure, I went to other zone and harvested other materials ^^

I'm curious, what are they doing? Is it by any chance an aoe skill that doesn't require you to target, like miasma II? You can make a totally legit farming macro /ac miasma II, /wait 90, rinse repeat and only need to look back at your screen every 10 minutes or so to hit the macro again. I've heard of people doing this while playing stuff on another monitor; I'm too paranoid to do it myself tbh.

@ Diadumenos seizure inducing sig much?

same they are botting crazy all day over 40 reports and he still sits there farming. At one point my friend was Pulled by a temp GM for saying 1 bad word while the guy was botting and ruining prices...

I followed one around for 2 hours, out claiming it, then the owner came back and yelled at me for griefing his bot. LoL

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Originally Posted by CatholicFan

No, they don't. If they did that, the bots would just move on to something else. Moving the eggs only solves 1 bot problem. Removing the bots solves the bigger issue (in theory).

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Bots will always be here. There just needs to be more than one place to obtain an item.

It's like Diremite Webs. Why the hell are there only two spawns of them in the entire world that yields the item, when we have countless spawns of useless Marmots? Also, why can't those items be obtained via Botany? We can get feathers from various birds, but a web being stuck in a tree is unheard of? Come on Square...

in Tonberry there was this lala bard who hides inside 1 of the bushes (close to the tree) you cannot see him. i could only tell from the arrow animation firing effect that its coming from the bushes. automatically fires at 2 Apkallus as soon as they spawn. i would see him every time i go there. any time. any day. he was always there doing the same thing.

till recently. i dont see him anymore.

I wonder why some of the known buttheads in our Eorzea don't spend more time targeting the bots...sounds like a perfect "SUPPOSED" minority population to grief. Please look forward to it. I'd spend a few minutes watching from the sidelines, cheering them on and eating my popcorn.

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Originally Posted by CatholicFan

No, they don't. If they did that, the bots would just move on to something else. Moving the eggs only solves 1 bot problem. Removing the bots solves the bigger issue (in theory).

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What would they move on to...? Eggs are the only thing really worth much these days because everything else comes from ...and this MAY BE A SHOCK...multiple sources including vendors.

Honestly, they do need to move these to vendors - The economy will never recover as long as people are undercut happy so there's really no point in not making this quality of life change.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

What would they move on to...? Eggs are the only thing really worth much these days because everything else comes from ...and this MAY BE A SHOCK...multiple sources including vendors.

Honestly, they do need to move these to vendors - The economy will never recover as long as people are undercut happy so there's really no point in not making this quality of life change.

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Food is the only thing in the game that is somewhat stable. Vendoring mats is the worst idea ever. Might as well just scrap the whole crafting system and make everything vendored.

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Originally Posted by Axidrain

Food is the only thing in the game that is somewhat stable. Vendoring mats is the worst idea ever. Might as well just scrap the whole crafting system and make everything vendored.

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(Ignoring that a lot of basic items in many recipes actually comes from vendors or crafted with guild items, oversaturated tome mats like Cooking Sherry and low level Botany thus worth almost nothing.)

They should scrap the crafting system as it serves little purpose as is when trash drops like Aetherial gear is actually better than basic HQ crafted gear since materia caps out pretty quickly (and I've yet to see anyone actually use materia on anything other than i70 stuff and even that is rare). Moving eggs to vendors wouldn't immediately kill the crafting system or market lol.

The whole "quests give out basically everything and you can buy "good" weapons for your level at many camps is what makes a lot of crafts useless unless you simply must have that HQ, so this isn't what would kill the system, SE already killed it a long time ago. Food is only stable because it's the one thing that isn't handed out in most quests like gear is.

For some reason I'm surprised that the eggs are the only thing people are complaining about. It's like a chef has to go on a bloodshore killing spree for beef, milk, and eggs! It's no wonder they call the place bloodshore.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

For some reason I'm surprised that the eggs are the only thing people are complaining about. It's like a chef has to go on a bloodshore killing spree for beef, milk, and eggs! It's no wonder they call the place bloodshore.

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That's not entirely true anymore. Buffalo Sirloin hardly sells for anything on Adamantoise these days. It's the Night Milk people are after more than anything.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

(Ignoring that a lot of basic items in many recipes actually comes from vendors or crafted with guild items, oversaturated tome mats like Cooking Sherry and low level Botany thus worth almost nothing.)

They should scrap the crafting system as it serves little purpose as is when trash drops like Aetherial gear is actually better than basic HQ crafted gear since materia caps out pretty quickly (and I've yet to see anyone actually use materia on anything other than i70 stuff and even that is rare). Moving eggs to vendors wouldn't immediately kill the crafting system or market lol.

The whole "quests give out basically everything and you can buy "good" weapons for your level at many camps is what makes a lot of crafts useless unless you simply must have that HQ, so this isn't what would kill the system, SE already killed it a long time ago.

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So continue to contribute to the problem since its already broken? RMT will always find something to farm.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

That's not entirely true anymore. Buffalo Sirloin hardly sells for anything on Adamantoise these days. It's the Night Milk people are after more than anything.

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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Night Milk used for making Rolanberry cheese and Rolanberry lattes? I can't think of anything else that uses night milk off the top of my head, though perhaps the lattes are responsible for the milks worth.

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Originally Posted by Dotnet

Poor design or just lazy on Square's part.

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Pretty well sums up the state of the game as well.

When the hell are they going to start on BnS NA...

Chances are some honest and rule following people on this topic will be banned WAYYYYYYYY before any botters will be. SE, I love ya, but sometimes. I wanna mail you guys a dunce hat for how badly you guys handle botters and RMT. This mass ban software you guys use is just so backwards. You guys should investigate those that we report, instead of ignoring us and letting a mass ban go out (of which Im sure those that get banned without doing anything wrong wouldnt be banned if there was a human handling the bans, on a case by case reported by other gamers.) You guys have plenty of subscribers so it shouldnt be an issue to hire a few people, each responsible for their own Data Center. Since you guys wont do that, Ive simply stopped reporting rule-breakers since people ive reported are still going at it...

OMG, I just figured out why SE doesnt ban RMT and botters for a VERY long time, it's more subscriptions. Why ban them when they are on their free month? Wait until they pay 1 or 2 subscriptions and then ban them. Damn SE, I take that dunce hat comment back, ya'll some evil geniuses.

Oddly enough I've never had any trouble going over and farming a quick 50 Eggs to make a pile of Deviled Eggs. its people who "need" to farm 2000 eggs in order to sell on the MB each day who are being affected, not people who actually use the mats for crafting Imo. Although I agree the bots are annoying, even them claiming it doesnt preclude you getting loot from the kills, I run around and shoot / kill em 1 at a time and still walk away with 50 eggs in 30 min.

Hello all,

Well after reading through the various responses I do appreciate the feedback, but also wanted to remind everyone why I made this thread.

The whole intent was to direct Square's attention to the bot's farming Apkallu Eggs specifically.

Again I do appreciate the positive and helpful feedback from those who have replied to this thread.

On another note, after making this post I was forced to change my password to my account due to "suspicious activity on my account". I wonder if I was targeted or have aggravated Square and that was their warning to me.