Fish. When do they stop sensing something is amiss?

There comes a point when fish sense "something is amiss" no matter where you try to go, no matter how far you try to move. If anyone else has noticed this, would you happen to know when it resets?

I've been going after Titanic Sawfish for the past few days (obviously with no luck) and have been achieving the above state after.. I don't know.. somewhere well over 500 crab balls, I think? When it first happened to me, I just put the game down and found something else to do; I figured that it'd reset at JP midnight. This time, I've been fishing through the night and early morning, then at around 7:10am PST (just past JP midnight) I'm hit by the above situation again.

And I like fishing at Parata's Peace just next door for my peiste maps. So I'm concerned that I'm locked out of fishing for my map for the day. I could go BTN at the Bramble Patch for it when I go to do my beastman dailies later, but I'd still like to know when does this fishing lockout reset for future reference.
Because I gotta catch 'em all, and I'm sure I'll run into this issue again.

Whenever this happens to me just moving a little distance away from where i was previously fishing seems to get rid of this. Seems to work for all my FC members.

Its so you can't just stay in the same spot and fish continuously But as was said moving a little ways to andifferent spot will reset it.

Like I said, I reach a point where no matter how far you try to move, it doesn't stop. I'll move from the entrance to Cape Westwind to the other end and still not be able to fish. Whereas normally I can just move a few feet and it clears up.

If you're going for the Titanic Sawfish, your biggest problem is that you're spending a lot of time fishing at the wrong time. It's only catchable between 10am and 6pm and only in clear weather. Go try for something else during the night or cloudy weather and you should never run into the "something amiss" problem.

The question still stands because the point here is that I want to understand this game mechanic better.
On that note, I was able to fish for my map later in the day. So I'm guessing it's more like a cooldown than a static reset. But I still want a better idea of what length of time is involved.

As for sawfish specifically, I have read about those conditions already, but I don't see how people came to that conclusion and would rather not follow it religiously until I see strong reasoning to back it up. I only saw around five testimonies, and it's almost always clear weather in the area anyway. If there's a nice listing where significantly more people have been submitting their raw data for perusal, I'd love to see it. Until then, I don't mind fishing under whatever time frame I'm able to, because it's either I fish or I commit sudoku, and I've already gone through waaay too much sudoku lately.

What I personally love is: fish a couple of times, have a duty finder pop, spend an hour in the dungeon, come back out, try to fish... the fish sense something amiss.

Well, if my testimony has any value, I can corroborate the catching requirements as well as anyone, I suppose. I have about a dozen Titanic Sawfish under my belt and have never caught a single one outside those conditions. And I have spent many, many hours catching Silver Sharks during the night and non-clear weather without ever seeing the sawfish come up. Silver Sharks are good money, so I tend to stick around until I go through about two stacks of low level bait.

As for as the "amiss" mechanic, everything I've experienced with it suggests it is a timer that starts ticking the second you cast your bait somewhere, and once that timer ticks down (it ticks whether you're actually still fishing in that spot or not), things go amiss for a set time in a small area (maybe a yalm or two) around where you were fishing. Then once that amiss timer runs down (doesn't matter where you are or what you're doing during this time), you can fish there again. I can't really give a clear timeframe on those, but I do know that the timeframe for the amiss timer is at least a couple hours. There may be some specific more complex mechanisms going on, but honestly, I don't fish enough in one single location to really notice it.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

Well, if my testimony has any value, I can corroborate the catching requirements as well as anyone, I suppose. I have about a dozen Titanic Sawfish under my belt and have never caught a single one outside those conditions. And I have spent many, many hours catching Silver Sharks during the night and non-clear weather without ever seeing the sawfish come up.

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That's very valuable to me. Good number of results under unbiased fishing habits. So thank you a lot for that.
But wow, you must've spent forever fishing here.


I get the feeling there are two "amiss" things going on.

The first is the timer one that everyone knows. Maybe around half an hour to an hour, it kicks in and you need to move a short distance. A while later, it resets for that small spot ("grid"? as the devs termed it).

The one I'm seeing has the same message, but feels more like a hard cap for the whole "fishing hole". I hit it again yesterday after going through at least 198+195 crab balls, plus however many mooches and such in between. I should've tried fishing in a different hole, like maybe Silver Bazaar for hammerheads, just to see if it was a global fishing cap or not. Or probably a completely different map entirely, since FF11 had zone-wide fishing caps. But no, for better and worse judgment, I went to sleep instead.

Never had a problem such as the OP describes. Usually when the fish sense something is amiss, moving as little as 5 or 10 metres away allows me to continue fishing.

I would like a definitive answer honestly. I was fishing the sylphlands for velodyna carp and other misc fish for my last level V fishing achievement when all of the fish in the ENTIRE SYLPHLANDS sudden sensed something amiss for over an hour. Did this happen to anyone else?

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Originally Posted by synesthetic

I get the feeling there are two "amiss" things going on.

The one I'm seeing has the same message, but feels more like a hard cap for the whole "fishing hole". I hit it again yesterday after going through at least 198+195 crab balls, plus however many mooches and such in between. I should've tried fishing in a different hole, like maybe Silver Bazaar for hammerheads, just to see if it was a global fishing cap or not...

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I want to bring up this question again, any input on the certain number on "hard cap" or lockout "reset time" would be nice.

I do not understand what you're talking until I met the problem myself today. I can't fish in the whole slyphlands fishing hole zone after catching several hundreds fish, I didn't remember the number since I've been working on luminary achievement these few days at the same area. I did try another fishing hole on the same map, it's still available, not locked out.

I re-log when they sense something is amiss and always seem to be able to fish again.

This is something different from what most people here are describing. The simplest fix is to find another fishing spot and make one cast there. For instance, while fishing for the Titanic Sawfish, you should run to the pond in the cave just to the east of Cape Westwind (the one with all of the giants) and perform a single cast there. That'll take care of the "amiss" message.

The worst of it, though, is that the message appears to be *exclusively* time-based for some reason. For instance, last night I performed one cast at a location, and my DF invite popped up immediately after. So I switched jobs and went off to run the instance I'd signed up for. When the instance was finished, I switched back to Fisher, and made another cast... but was informed that the fish sensed something was amiss..

I'm having the same issue as the OP, I was fishing the sawfish all day yesterday during the proper conditions and then last night I got the message that the fish sensed something amiss... it didn't matter where I moved it said the same thing. So I went to bed, and almost 12 hours later I went back to try again and the entire zone tells me that the fish sense something is amiss...

This seems like a bug to me, i re-logged, re-zoned, didn't fish for 12 hours, now all of Western Thanalan is off limits for fishing.

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So here's my experience with the whole thing:

Yesterday i started to fish for the Silver Sovereign to get me the new Fishing Rod.

I fished a whole hour (6am to 6am) without any luck. Went to the internet and did some research. Many people believe that the best time to catch it is between 6am to 10am. While already starting at 6pm is a good idea since from that point on you can only catch Silver Sovereign if you land a Big Catch while at 10am the Mahi-Mahi starts to jump in and you rarely catch any more Silver Sovereign until 6pm.

So what i did then was waiting for around 10pm and then go back to the spot. In the meantime i crafted, did Dungeons, helped FC members - whatever. 10pm hits, i port to Moraby Drydocks, go to the Fishing spot for the Silver Sovereign, eat a Landtrap Salad and fish there from 10pm to 10am until Food runs out.

I do that for like 3 times? 4 times? All in all i've probably fished for 2h to 3h in total only in that spot on that RL-Day. And when i come back the next time it tells me:
"The fish sense something amiss. Perhaps it is time to try another location."
So i move a bit: Dosn't help.
I'm porting to another area and come back: Dosn't help.
I take a break like one hour, do some crafting, come back: Dosn't help.

Then it was 0am, me tired, so i decide to go to bed. I was on Goldsmith, had done some Rose Gold Nuggets crafting in our FC house. So i'm like: "Yeah, probably something like a Fatigue-System. Maybe it'll be gone after some hours not InGame."

I went to bed, had a good nights sleep, came back online around 9h later. It was 6pm InGame, i was like: "Yay, perfect timing." I take care of my Retainers, still on Goldsmith, and then port to Moraby Drydocks ride to the spot, try to fish...
"The fish sense something amiss. Perhaps it is time to try another location."

Yeah, Great... so after someone suggested to just go to a different fishing spot and do at least 1 cast there i was going to try this. Back to the Moraby Drydocks port - that was the closest different fishing spot on my map - down to the docks and happy fishing.

I catch myself a Ocean Cloud - 1 cast successfully done! I quit the fishing, back to the Silver Sovereign spot, try to cast and... Yay, it works! I can happy fish again!

So for this case the 1-cast-trick seems to work fine.

So what i do now is: After i ported to Moraby Drydocks i cast my line into the waters at the docks, catch one fish, then go to the Silver Sovereign spot, fish there from 10pm to 10am, quit, come back at 10pm and repeat the rotation. =)

Happy fishing everyone!

no one can answer the OP's question. I just came across this problem, and if people read the original question they would understand that you can't move 10 or so m's away. The spot becomes entirely unfishable and we don't know how long for it to pass before we can resume fishing. I'm starting my timer now. Tell ya when I get back.

I have never seen the entire area amiss. ive been fishin quite a few moons as well. not the spot the area.. this seems like a bug. i usually move to a new area a within the same map and catch a few fish and your good to go back. i would bring it up to a GM never heard of it.. going back to the same spot without going somewheres else first weather you think its hours or you been in DF or whatever you will always get amiss or at least thats what i have experienced.. you have to move and fish to reset it...

Could be longer. When I fish silver sovereign after few hours, I logged out and went to bed. Next day I log and tried to fish, I immediately for fish being suspicious. Even after fishing very few attempts and entering DF does make fish suspicious when you exit DF.

Just go to other different fishing spot and fish 1 time, then return to your original spot. You should be able to resume fishing again. :)

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Originally Posted by immanji

no one can answer the OP's question. I just came across this problem, and if people read the original question they would understand that you can't move 10 or so m's away. The spot becomes entirely unfishable and we don't know how long for it to pass before we can resume fishing. I'm starting my timer now. Tell ya when I get back.

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Did you actually read the thread? It was answered already at least 3 times here. Once you get the whole area unfishable you need to move to different area (different name, not just different "location"), cast at least once (you can cancel the cast afterwards, no need to catch anything) and that resets the timer for the first location so you can go back and fish for another fixed period of time. As far as I know this timer will not reset itself unless you perform the cast elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Whenever this happens to me just moving a little distance away from where i was previously fishing seems to get rid of this. Seems to work for all my FC members.

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Same. When was fishing Silver Sovereigns got the message - moved 1 step outside the fishing hole area (I believe that is the name of area on fishing log right?), catched 1 fish and stepped back in to go on with Silver Sovereigns.

They must have tweaked this. I now have to go to a different hole. Before a small movement was enough now no matter where I stand the fish are on to me.

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Originally Posted by Stormrider

They must have tweaked this. I now have to go to a different hole. Before a small movement was enough now no matter where I stand the fish are on to me.

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It was always like this. What you've probalbly missed is that there are two timers / counters - first for the actual (mini-)spot your standing / sitting on while fishing at given location - that coould be reset simply by moving a few steps aside - and another "larger" one for the whole fishing area which takes longer to fill up and can be reset only by visiting and casting in another location.

Well I am not sure about times. But I used to be able to fish for three and a half hours at Urths Gift. All I ever did was shift a little same with wife. Now at sixty minutes if i don't go down to Goblinblood I can not get anymore fish there period. So it has changed.

That happen to me once and no matter how far i went or how much time i was away still was getting the message. What i did was go to a different location were you can fish, cast the line and catch the fish and just afk for a while there with the pole out. After i did that the message disapear from the location i was originally fishing.

I pretty much figured by now with everyone claiming the game is so easy we have a definite answer to how long you can fish before getting fatigued. That is what were talking about after all.

Trying to catch my Silver Sovereigns I've had this problem (today's problem is the 3rd time in my whole FFXIV career) and decided to look it up and found this thread.

First 2 times I just logged out, but today I still haven't fished my treasure map, so I teleported to fish my map, hoping that the "hard fatigue" only limits to the same location (fishing hole). To my relief, I was able to fish for my map just fine, which happens to resonate with Andra's trick.

Thanks for letting me know, so now I can go back to Moraby Drydocks for more fishing. :)

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Originally Posted by Andra

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So for this case the 1-cast-trick seems to work fine.

So what i do now is: After i ported to Moraby Drydocks i cast my line into the waters at the docks, catch one fish, then go to the Silver Sovereign spot, fish there from 10pm to 10am, quit, come back at 10pm and repeat the rotation. =)

Happy fishing everyone!

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Originally Posted by synesthetic

Like I said, I reach a point where no matter how far you try to move, it doesn't stop. I'll move from the entrance to Cape Westwind to the other end and still not be able to fish. Whereas normally I can just move a few feet and it clears up.

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From what people have observed, this is some kind of bugged glitch or anti-botting measure. It can apparently be triggered if you eat food too soon after you reel a fish in, or somesuch. You have to move to an entirely differently named fishing area and fish there to reset when this happens.

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Originally Posted by RakaMaimhov

From what people have observed, this is some kind of bugged glitch or anti-botting measure. It can apparently be triggered if you eat food too soon after you reel a fish in, or somesuch. You have to move to an entirely differently named fishing area and fish there to reset when this happens.

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caught all my silver sovereign without food. This still happen quite often though. Only need to fish 1 time on other fishing spot then come back.

Hello all you have to do in this very rare scenario is move to any location outside the area fish once there and move back to that area, this should solve the problem this is caused when you fish for a very very long time, its when they sense a bot or something and they do this method so they think you aren't just farming in 1 location for the whole game iswell its a bit silly I know but this should solve your problem anyway, thanks.