FC Leader has gone

Hey, our fc leader had left the game but not deleted the character. Even though I am second in command I don't have all the abilities an fc leader has. The problem is we are very close to having the funds to buy our company house but once the time comes we won't have the power to buy one. We don't want to switch to another fc because of all the hard work we have all put into this one, and we can not start a new one because all of our Gil is in the company chest with the deposit restricted :mad:

SE have said in previous posts that something would be sorted by 2.1 but a gm told me the other day there is nothing they can do.

So the question I have is..... Can we find another way to sort this or has our hard work, time and Gil been wasted when se should realy have something in place for this.

Sorry I meant there's is a restriction to withdraw not deposit

Our FC are almost in the same position. My advice is to wait a bit longer to see if SE adds any new features to help you out. One person should not have control over everyone's gil because of situations like this.

This is very unfortunate. This is actually happening a lot. The problem with someone else having access is...who gets it if the leader doesn't come back? How would they choose whom to give the rights to? How can the FC vote to put someone in that position within the game? Could it be abused? I'm all for some kind of fix because that's a crap load of Gil and maybe items that will burn if something is not done, and that's not cool. For now pray he logs back on and gives someone else the permissions.

It's a curtesy leaders.

Sadly I know he isn't coming back. But thankfully I would be happy if they introduced a voting system or something as I know all the guys will put me in as I have recruited them all and been their support through all their lvling. I would just start another 1 if it wasn't for the rank 8 and the few million gil In the chest. I'm just confused as they said they would have something in place with 2.1. I feel bad for all the other guys they have worked so hard.

So many wasted hours.

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Originally Posted by GuardianX

My advice is to wait a bit longer to see if SE adds any new features to help you out. One person should not have control over everyone's gil because of situations like this.

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It's not 1 person having control, it's the one person that owns the FC so all the FC gil belongs to the FC owner. Plain and simple, so that's why you will never get help for this, the gil isn't yours, it belongs to the one who quit. If you give your gil to a FC, it's no longer your gil. It's time to either try to contact the owner outside of the game (as 2nd in command, you should have his RL phone number or at the very least his email address) or just take this as a lesson and don't contribute your gil to a FC that isn't 100% yours (which is why the FC I belong to doesn't allow members to contribute gil, cause then members start thinking it's their FC and their collective gil, which it isn't. We are just members of the free company, free to come and go as we please.)

But it's not just about the Gil. If you don't treat yourself as part of the fc then u should just go join the largest 1 u can find and be done with it. I have been there from the beginning and put money towards founding it so yes I would like to think it's partly mine. This isn't a matter of getting our Gil back it's a matter of letting the fc carry on and do the stuff we have all worked so hard to achieve. We want the Gil to stay in the chest and eventually buy our house when we have saved enough.

Greetings,

It was previously mentioned that after 2.1 we'd add the ability to transfer leadership to another member of your free company if the company master was gone for too long. We have more details to share with you now.

If a free company master has not logged in for 35 days, the leadership will automatically be transferred to the member who fulfills the below criteria:

• Has logged in within the past 7 days
• The highest ranking member in the free company hierarchy
• Earliest member to join the free company

Once the leadership has been transferred to a member, the old master will become a “member.”
This option is currently scheduled for implementation in patch 2.2 for anyone who would like to take advantage.

How do you know he is not coming back? It seems like they have the situation about to be handled but it's gonna take a little bit... I'm kinda worried about option 3 (Earliest member to join the free company) You may be 2nd in command and not have been one of the early members so that's kind of a draw back IMO...

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

How do you know he is not coming back? It seems like they have the situation about to be handled but it's gonna take a little bit... I'm kinda worried about option 3 (Earliest member to join the free company) You may be 2nd in command and not have been one of the early members so that's kind of a draw back IMO...

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If he comes back... wait for it... wait for it... you can transfer leadership back! Amazing, I know.

Criteria #3 is probably there in the event everyone is the same rank.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

If he comes back... wait for it... wait for it... you can transfer leadership back! Amazing, I know.

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Obviously you don't read before you post... I said that if someone is second in command but they have not been one of the first to join... Lets say they joined 6 months after someone else but there second in command, that implies that they don't meet criteria to have the leadership transferred... At what point did I say anything about anyone coming back and getting leadership... WAIT FOR IT WAIT FOR IT... YEAH LEARN HOW TO READ BEFORE MAKING A SNIDE COMMENT...!!!

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Originally Posted by Smashcore

Criteria #3 is probably there in the event everyone is the same rank.

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Ahhh good point... I could see that happening

Yeah, this would have been great for our company a month ago when your GMs and support center told me they could do nothing and I had to move an entire FC.

What would happen if there are only total of 3 FC members and they all haven't logged on for 35 days?

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Originally Posted by Umero

What would happen if there are only total of 3 FC members and they all haven't logged on for 35 days?

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Then no one would care, nor does.

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Originally Posted by Shakespeare

Yeah, this would have been great for our company a month ago when your GMs and support center told me they could do nothing and I had to move an entire FC.

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First world problems. Boo hoo. There wasn't anything they could do at the time.

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

WAIT FOR IT WAIT FOR IT... YEAH LEARN HOW TO READ BEFORE MAKING A SNIDE COMMENT...!!!

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I think you're the one who should learn how to read before making a "snide comment"
That list is a hierarchy of rules. It filters the potential new leader in that specific order, it doesn't just randomly pick a rule.
It would do this

1) Filter everyone who has logged in within the last 7 days -> More than 1 result? Move on to step 2. If there's only one result, that person would be the new leader.
2) Filter highest ranking members out of the results from step 1 -> More than 1 result? Move on to step 3. If there's only one result, that person would be the new leader.
3) Oldest member out of the results from step 2 is the new leader.

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

I'm kinda worried about option 3 (Earliest member to join the free company) You may be 2nd in command and not have been one of the early members so that's kind of a draw back IMO...

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Option 2 is "The highest ranking member in the free company hierarchy", so the person 2nd in command (second rank in hierarchy) would be given leadership so it wouldn't be an issue. If your FC has a Leader -> Sub-leader -> General population ranking system, change it to a Leader -> 2nd Leader -> Sub-leaders -> General population hierarchy and problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Falcus

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I think you're the one who should learn how to read before making a "snide comment"
That list is a hierarchy of rules. It filters the potential new leader in that specific order, it doesn't just randomly pick a rule.
It would do this

1) Filter everyone who has logged in within the last 7 days -> More than 1 result? Move on to step 2. If there's only one result, that person would be the new leader.
2) Filter highest ranking members out of the results from step 1 -> More than 1 result? Move on to step 3. If there's only one result, that person would be the new leader.
3) Oldest member out of the results from step 2 is the new leader.

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You do realize that is a speculation right? It says meets below criteria which could mean that you need to fill all forms of criteria in order to have the transfer happen... Its a vague reply with no actual explanation on how it is going to work...

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

You do realize that is a speculation right? It says meets below criteria which could mean that you need to fill all forms of criteria in order to have the transfer happen... Its a vague reply with no actual explanation on how it is going to work...

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It's not speculation...that's how it's written just with less words. They don't need to write it word for word for people to understand.

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

You do realize that is a speculation right? It says meets below criteria which could mean that you need to fill all forms of criteria in order to have the transfer happen... Its a vague reply with no actual explanation on how it is going to work...

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Couple of points.

1. If there is more than 1 person occupying the general position, I would like to think that before the FC Master promoted them to such role that he would be happy for them to run the FC in his absence.
2. How do you define second in command if more than 1 person has the second rank in the FC, surely 2nd in command is held by more than 1 person in that case? Therefore the rules should work, because if there is truly only 1 second in command, then he/she should hold Rank 2 in the FC by default.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

If a free company master has not logged in for 35 days, the leadership will automatically be transferred to the member who fulfills the below criteria:

• Has logged in within the past 7 days
• The highest ranking member in the free company hierarchy
• Earliest member to join the free company

Once the leadership has been transferred to a member, the old master will become a “member.”
This option is currently scheduled for implementation in patch 2.2 for anyone who would like to take advantage.

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Question, though..

Our leader has already been absent for more than 40 days.. When 2.2 hits, are we going to have to wait another 35 days or will we be able to get a new leader as soon as 2.2 drops? It would be very helpful to know so that we can go ahead and get started on a new FC if we're going to have to wait another month after 2.2.

Hello,

To clarify a bit, if you have three members who are all given a rank second in command to the master, the next determinant as to who will receive leadership will be the member who joined the free company first. If all of these members were the ones who organized the free company, it will then be decided by who signed the free company petition first.

Also, if there is a person that you wish to make master, you can appoint only that person to the second highest rank so that leadership is given to them.

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Originally Posted by Robobandit

Question, though..

Our leader has already been absent for more than 40 days.. When 2.2 hits, are we going to have to wait another 35 days or will we be able to get a new leader as soon as 2.2 drops? It would be very helpful to know so that we can go ahead and get started on a new FC if we're going to have to wait another month after 2.2.

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We're in the same boat. One of our members reached out to the old leader, and he claims to have uninstalled the game. Cross your fingers for both of us.