Ala Mhigo "After 2.0 story"

All talk has been about Ishgard when it comes to new City-State but seem most people have forgotten Ala Mhigo being the 2nd new City State we will have access to in post 1st expansion time frame.

I would enjoy some info on Ala Mhigo condition post 2.0 story now that...

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The Castrum blocking the path to Ala Mhigo is no longer under Garlean Control since the Castrum has successfully been taken by the adders and Sylph forces at the end of 2.0 story during Operation Archon.

Some info would be nice like the refugees in Little Ala Mhigo preparing to return to Ala Mhigo or representatives of Ala Mhigo coming to ask for some aid which will open up some of Ala Mhigo area through a Major Update but not the City-State so they can gradually build up to Ala Mhigo opening to adventurers.

(Got to give Alphinaud credit for having a successful plan like this where many failed before him)

I'm surprised to see this outside of the lore section! My man, you are awesome for bringing this up. Lore development is a sometimes forgotten thing with SE in the mix of things lately, except that we will be getting a major Amdapor Keep lore update with 2.2. I agree and I'd love to hear more about Ala Mhigo and see what direction they can take it in for us players.

Wait, they did that during Operation Archon?
As far as I know all that they did was march in a diversionary troop to stall any coming reinforcements so that you might strike Castrum Marinum and Meridianum without interference.

Did they somehow take back Ala'Mhigo during the operation? I require clearer proof.

And yes, surprising to see this out of Lore section

Can't really place this as only lore since if something releated to Ala higo is released it will be more than just Lore content.

We may start seeing hints on things to expect in Ala Mhigo like what Class Guilds are located in Ala Mhigo and what kind of Beast Tribes are in Ala Mhigo area which would introduce a new Beast Tribe to the game.

The thing about Ala Mhigo though is it's essentially sealed off from the rest of Eorzea - 1.0 clearly stated it's now nothing more than a massive Garlean fortress, whose inhabitants are prevented from escaping southwards by a huge wall. Even though after Operation Archon

the Empire's advancement into Eorzea has been essentially halted, if not completely ended - after all Gaius's last words "And so my conquest ends here," even after Archon Gaius's strongholds still remain filled with Garlean troops, although they could easily be considered to be just remnant forces.

Despite that, I doubt we'll be seeing Ala Mhigo any time soon - Ishgard has long been promised as the next city state to be accessed - it's zone line actually exists in the game (although currently blocked off), the city itself is still 'free' (as in, not under Garlean control), and it's easier to access. Unlike Ala Mhigo which has no zone connecting to it (the only way it could be accessed by land is if a new zone was added to the East Shroud to lead eventually towards it, but Castrum Oriens is blocking the way). So yeah, sadly I don't think Ala Mhigo will be made accessible for quite a long time.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

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Well Castrum Oriens is one of the Castrum the City-State Attacked during the Operation which means Castrum Oriens is no long under Garlean Control but City-State control. This mean right now we have the path into Ala Mhigo cleared but they may have part of 1st Expansion Main Storyline be the assault on Ala Mhigo.

As I said before Ishgard is only one of the new city-state we will get in Post 1st Expansion time frame. Ala Mhigo is the 2nd City-State we will have access to.

It is a matter of working on how the City-State alliance have turned Castrum Oriens into a City-State base since it is now occupied by the Adders and Sylph forces.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Well Castrum Oriens is one of the Castrum the City-State Attacked during the Operation which means Castrum Oriens is no long under Garlean Control but City-State control. This mean right now we have the path into Ala Mhigo cleared but they may have part of 1st Expansion Main Storyline be the assault on Ala Mhigo.

As I said before Ishgard is only one of the new city-state we will get in Post 1st Expansion time frame. Ala Mhigo is the 2nd City-State we will have access to.

It is a matter of working on how the City-State alliance have turned Castrum Oriens into a City-State base since it is now occupied by the Adders and Sylph forces.

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The way to the borders are free, but Ala Migho and also maybe the whole region Gyn Abania is still empire territory.
I think first come Ishgard, then Sharlayan with Dravania and then, after whole Eorzea is united, Ala Migho with Gyn Abania.

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...aps-eorzea.jpg

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Originally Posted by Felis

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Well that is assuming there is no plot reason to make us go to Ala Mhigo in 1st expansion.

If the Garleans remain in Ala Mhigo we won't have any need to go int Ala Mhigo until SE deemed necessary.

However, we have to remember the 1st Expansion Main Story will be much larger than Major Update Main Story quests so there will be a need for plenty of new areas other than just two places. I won't be surprised if Ala Mhigo is the place they will set the Final Battle in 1st Expansion storyline since, as you stated, Eorzea may need to be united first before the assault on Ala Mhigo and the 1st expansion storyline can cover Eorzea finally being united ending with the Battle of Ala Mhigo. This would also make a great way to end the first expansion pack and foreshadow the next expansion pack to be either the Garlean Empire or Far East or both.

Words of Gaius defeat could spark a interests in Eorzea again and a new Legatus may spark another invasion to Eorzea since we have proven to be a threat to the Garlean Empire unless Nero has other plans for Eorzea.

Level up Monk, the story involves Ala Mhigo. I'm not at the lvl 50 part yet.. but should be sometime this week.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Level up Monk, the story involves Ala Mhigo. I'm not at the lvl 50 part yet.. but should be sometime this week.

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It doesn't give much, though. Just a single monk rebelling for the sake of his homeland and doing... questionable things to achieve it.

(To be honest, I found his caveman talk and the whole monk quest chain dull and boring compared to other job quests.)

Thanks for the map, Felis. I never even realized where Ala Mhigo was actually located. Always thought it was somewhere near South Thanalan or something. :D

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Level up Monk, the story involves Ala Mhigo. I'm not at the lvl 50 part yet.. but should be sometime this week.

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The job quests (except summoner and scholar) are copied from 1.0. Same story, same dialoges, same CS. Only the locations are sometimes different.
But I have not did the WHM quests in ARR yet. I think there would be differences in the dialoges.

ala mhigo is supposed to have fallen to the garlean empire, and there really hasn't been word of its liberation. it is usually also considered the 'far east' and will probly come with an expansion and 'eastern' jobs like ninja, blue mage, and samurai. it was also said to have been under unfair political corrupt dictatorship before garlean rule, and that it fell from within due to uprisings, which led to the garlean invasion.

ishgard is home to the 'high' elven society, and they're supposed to be fighting a war with dragons. dragons have somehow found ways to mindcontrol and cast shapeshift illusions. basically dragons are a race, like beastmen, and are mostly fighting ishgard. the only city-states that are supposedly not under garlean rule are the current 3 GC's, ishgard, sharlayan, and the 'new world' where millioncorn comes from.

For some reason, I really can't stand the Ala Mhigo people. They popped up from time to time during various story missions/job missions/etc, and every time I was sent to Little Ala Mhigo I wanted to hit my head against the wall. I would be fine with these people being ousted from their home for life, or even being completely obliterated. Don't do a half-ass job, Garleans!

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Originally Posted by Haprimac

It doesn't give much, though. Just a single monk rebelling for the sake of his homeland and doing... questionable things to achieve it.

(To be honest, I found his caveman talk and the whole monk quest chain dull and boring compared to other job quests.)

Thanks for the map, Felis. I never even realized where Ala Mhigo was actually located. Always thought it was somewhere near South Thanalan or something. :D

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This so much! I loved the PGL quest line, then monk just killed it for me. :(

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Originally Posted by hot_gilgamess

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Considering Ala Mhigo is now a Garlean Fortress it still will make a good place for the final battle in 1st expansion pack unless they plan to head into Garlean territory in 1st expansion as well and have the Battle of Ala Mhigo be the gate way story dungeon to access Garlean Empire territory.

They probably will only make Ishgard as the first part of the new storyline then after some events and new information and plot twists they have our character go to Sharlayan to discover the fate of the Circle of Knowing since in 2.1 we learn the Ascians have attacked the Circle of Knowing. Then eventually we will follow events from there leading up to the Battle of Ala Mhigo with us cashing in all our chips we built up through the main storyline having the Battle of Ala Mhigo be the final battle to push the Garlean Empire out of Eorzea and to stop a Ascian manipulating these events which most likely is the White Ascian we meet in 2.1.

Most likely they will set Ala Mhigo as a new 8 member Story Dungeon for this final part of 1st expansion storyline.

Far east City-State Radz-at-Han is on the other side of the Sea of Jade so it is not on the world map yet and is currently East of the Garlean Empire. There is still a chance for Radz-at-Han to appear in the first expansion but I'm not certain it will quite yet since Job trainers are not bound to their homes so Ninja and Samurai trainer can be in Eorzea for their own personal reasons like the Warrior Trainer while Far East remaining not accessible.

I made a Highlander because I love the back story for the people and their lost home. I really hope we get to take it back/return there at some point.

I imagine Ishgard will come first however. But I'm alright with that too.

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I made a Highlander because I love the back story for the people and their lost home. I really hope we get to take it back/return there at some point.

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We will my brother, we will.

Unless the entire battle is instanced and not part of the real map I can't really see them opening up a hostile area to players as a city State. If we have an expansion to reclaim Ala Mhigo, it would cause data confliction for those who finished the story portion and those that didn't. If we get to go there, it would probably still be under Garlean rule, but allow us to go there through a peace unity in that city or something, that could be where the Garlean specific jobs/classes could be located.

If not, no alliance with Garlean Empire, I can see it as a dungeon rather than a city state.

Also Gaius may be dead but he isn't the only one with an Army from the Garlean empire if I recall. Isn't there an emperor?

So much of the world will change if Ala Mhigo is liberated (esp in Ul'dah), I doubt it will be too soon.

Incidentally, I thought the MNK quest was the best job story arc I've done so far, but most of the Job quests have been pretty much awful (with the SMN and SCH quest lines being especially thin and lacking and the PLD one being...well I'm just shocked the guy kept his job)

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Originally Posted by eagledorf

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Well most Jobs kept their original Storyline from 1.0. Only few that had changes are Warrior and White Mage.

Warrior Job Story had a few changes and additions added into it but kept all original cutscenes from 1.0. However, I don't know if the Warrior Trainer was part of the Company of Heroes back in 1.0.

White Mage was given a new Job Story in 2.0 and now focus about conflicting between the new way of thinking (the sister way of thinking) or keeping tradition (the brother way of thinking) Girdania's citizens struggle with. It opens up a bit into Gridania's condition after they opened their City-State to outsiders.

SMN and Scholar are interesting for me but felt they held back the important part of the story too long which is why it felt thin for most people.

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Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri

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Ya the Storyline battles of Ala Mhigo most likely will be instanced with most of them being solo instanced while having the final part of Battle of Ala Mhigo be 8 member Dungeons with first Story dungeon being Ala Mhigo and then having the final dungeon being the base they have set up in Ala Mhigo where the final boss waits for us.

Garlean Empire condition is currently bad right now. The Emperor is losing power and his age is finally getting to him so there is a power struggle in the Garlean Empire between people with power. Civil War appears inevitable in the Garlean Empire. However, there is a chance a new Imperial Legatus will appear in Eorzea to spark a new invasion by having Ala Mhigo as the base of operations since it is the only Garlean base in Eorzea now.

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Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri

Also Gaius may be dead but he isn't the only one with an Army from the Garlean empire if I recall. Isn't there an emperor?

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There is an emperor, but there are also several other legions. Both Darnus and Gaius led legions, rather than the entire Garlean army. From what we know of Garlemald etc, it's a monolithic entity and not something we can really 'take down' in the foreseeable future.

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That being said, I can definitely see Ala Mhigo as a reclaimed city-state, although it's a Garlean base of operations in Eorzea. It's still hotly contested amongst the Eorzean alliance and by natives in Eorzea in little Ala Mhigo and stuff; the presence is definitely sorely missed. I see a union of beastmen/enlightened races in time for the next expansion as the core theme of ARR was the primal conflict, I think we could be pushing outwards to Ishgard, Sharlayan AND Ala Mhigo in 3.0, perhaps moving onto different continents etc in 4/5/6.0. I don't see the issue of data conflict in the way you present it, there already exists some muddied meaning in 2.1 with the castrums thrown up by the empire etc and their co-existence with pre-endgame plotlines.

We did not liberate Ala Mhigo.

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Originally Posted by vientown

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Well right now 1st expansion seems to be the expansion that will open up what remains of Eorzea we can not explore yet.

If 3.0 opens up all of Eorzea then 4.0 and over certainly will begin expanding into the other Continents and if so most likely Garlean Empire and Far East will be the next place in 4.0.

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Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri

Unless the entire battle is instanced and not part of the real map I can't really see them opening up a hostile area to players as a city State. If we have an expansion to reclaim Ala Mhigo, it would cause data confliction for those who finished the story portion and those that didn't.

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I'd expect the retaking of Ala Mhigo being a pre-launch event for the expansion that'll focus on it. As for discrepancies in the story, I would lock off that zone to players that have not gotten up to a certain point in the story.

Of course, this means Ala Mhigo would not be a starting city like the other three, but something's gotta give, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I'd expect the retaking of Ala Mhigo being a pre-launch event for the expansion that'll focus on it. As for discrepancies in the story, I would lock off that zone to players that have not gotten up to a certain point in the story.

Of course, this means Ala Mhigo would not be a starting city like the other three, but something's gotta give, IMO.

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That could work if done right and if SE plans to release parts of new major areas as part of Major Updates to prevent people from going too far into Expansion content areas.

However, anything can be their pre-release expansion event currently.

Just late note garlean king will be added in later on after expasion hits with newer elder primal but I am excited for ala mhigo and ishgard. Ishgard getting shiva as well

Don't forget guys, in the 2.2 story they mentiones the domans decided to attempt to free themselves from Garlean rule because of a war of succession in Garlemald, this can only mean one thing:

Emperor Solus Zos Galvus is dead.

This could have been added to bring in a story for us to go to war on Garlemald, after all they could have pulled forces out of the outlying outposts and forts, so we could yet liberate Ala Mhigo as part of a story of us attacking Garlemald.

I've heard that some people found what looks like the road to Ala Mhigo in East Shroud, but it's blocked off. I waned to see it. Is it at the bottom of the hill in the SE area that's too steep to climb down? Is there a road leading out of the shroud that is blocked by collapsed piller or a crashed juggernaut? BTW, there is a huge Garlean wall on the eastern side of the map. Is that the end of the shroud, or does the shroud continue on the other side? Is that wall the Ala Mhigo border?

It would be cool to see the place back in shape after 2.0 events.

Fighting yet another lowbie Gaius pawn in (somehow still[?!]) empire infested area would be lame.

I also want to see the people of little Ala Mhigo return to their home and not just sit there like nothing happened.
They were so miserable before that I want to see how they actually react to this situation.