RESTORE: A unique appoarch to fix some of Eorzea's most discussed issues.

Small zones, lack of open world content, no crafting end game. These are some of the most talked about issues on the forums right now. The question is how do you fix them in a fun and interesting manner? A new game system called Restore.

It has been 5 years since Bahamut laid waste to Eorzea, yet Adventures aren't doing much in the rebuilding process. Why? Shouldn't we be the ones finding ruins, rebuilding the cities, discovery ancient secrets? That is the concept behind Restore.

The idea is simple. With every new patch, new sections of the world are added. But it isn't just available. No, each server has to unlock it. When a new areas are added, there is a "Life Bar" on trees, stone walls, mountain faces, etc. DoL are required to take daily quest and join in on DoL F.A.T.Es. When the bar reaches zero the area is open.

DoH is required to build structure like scaffolds and such to keep the "Life Bar" from going back up by also completing dailies and DoH F.A.T.Es.

Now let's talk rewards. Just like DoW/DoM, crafters will receive tokens which can be used to buy unique items for crafting. DoL/DoH Chocobo barding, unique materials to make unique gear, shards, and so on.

Now for a practical example on how Restore would work, let's take Amdapor Keep as an example. First the area to access the Keep would be blocked off. DoL/DoH would have to clear the land and open up the area. After which DoW/DoM would have the cleanse the land of monster and such before you could unlock AK.

Obviously this is a really rough idea right now but it's one that I believe MMO's are going to move toward. Where players feel like they are effecting the game world and making a difference in the living, breathing environment.

To recap:

• DoL/DoH clear the land to access new areas on the map
• DoW/DoM would be required to protect the area that DoL/DoH is restoring.
• DoL/DoH would have dailies and F.A.T.E with rewards based on tokens.
• New dungeons and stuff are added to the game in this fashion instead of a simple quest to unlock it.

I remember doing something like this in Wow for one of the expansions, can't remember what it was called though.

It had a bad side effect though. The first world to open the new area had like a cajillion people transfer to it immediately. Then those people couldn't log in and had huge login ques.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

I remember doing something like this in Wow for one of the expansions, can't remember what it was called though.

It had a bad side effect though. The first world to open the new area had like a cajillion people transfer to it immediately. Then those people couldn't log in and had huge login ques.

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AQ in original WoW? Crashed/lagged servers due to everyone being in Silithus.

I'd love to have goldsmith barding for my chocobo

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Originally Posted by Ryios

I remember doing something like this in Wow for one of the expansions, can't remember what it was called though.

It had a bad side effect though. The first world to open the new area had like a cajillion people transfer to it immediately. Then those people couldn't log in and had huge login ques.

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The dailies in Quel'Danas where the area became bigger when enough quests were completed, or the call to arm to open the gates of AQ.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

I remember doing something like this in Wow for one of the expansions, can't remember what it was called though.

It had a bad side effect though. The first world to open the new area had like a cajillion people transfer to it immediately. Then those people couldn't log in and had huge login ques.

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Well there would have to be a system in place that allows servers with low population to progress just as quickly as one that is full.

It would be neat, but then they'd finish and it would be all over. You need something more long term.

What they should do is make a seeded dungeon.

E.g. 100 different types of scenery. 100 different types of boss areas. 100 different texture schemes, etc etc. Then give it like 5 allowed boss areas then players make up seeds like

[9,54,32],[4,12,19],[32,43,98],[76,45,67],[45,15,57]

And that would spawn a dungeon with 5 boss areas of X type (layout based on the seed), where each boss area has a different scheme, texture pack. Then their boss spawner algorithm picks a Boss Of X tier to put in each boss area, and random trashed based on which layouts were chosen.

E.g. We could experiment with the best seeds to get layouts with tons of trash for exp grinding, or the least trash for quick runs etc.

Someone would make a site, and eventually every possible seed combination would be on said site.

Also, forgot to add. Yoshi-P said they don't want crafting to feel required. This would make it required so you need something that adds reasons to craft while at the same time players could potentially ignore it if they wanted to.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

What they should do is make a seeded dungeon.

E.g. 100 different types of scenery. 100 different types of boss areas. 100 different texture schemes, etc etc. Then give it like 5 allowed boss areas then players make up seeds like

[9,54,32],[4,12,19],[32,43,98],[76,45,67],[45,15,57]

And that would spawn a dungeon with 5 boss areas of X type (layout based on the seed), where each boss area has a different scheme, texture pack. Then their boss spawner algorithm picks a Boss Of X tier to put in each boss area, and random trashed based on which layouts were chosen.

E.g. We could experiment with the best seeds to get layouts with tons of trash for exp grinding, or the least trash for quick runs etc.

Someone would make a site, and eventually every possible seed combination would be on said site.

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FFXI had something similar to this, it also had crafting ones for people to craft. IIRC it was pretty terrible.

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Originally Posted by Magis

AQ in original WoW? Crashed/lagged servers due to everyone being in Silithus.

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Exactly. We truly wanted to save the world.....it had nothing to do with the mount.... at all ;)

Nonetheless, I think something like this would be fairly interesting.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Well there would have to be a system in place that allows servers with low population to progress just as quickly as one that is full.

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I believe Blizzard had something in place where resources were also auto-generated over time so that everything will unlock eventually on its own, which helped out the smaller servers.

This would be amazing.

Kinda reminds me of opening up Rachel Temple in Ragnarok Online. I think the entire server had to donate about 50,000,000 zenny before it became available, but you could only donate after you went through this pretty lengthy quest chain. Having played on a private server with a population of around 300-500, well, needless to say it took us a while, haha!

Directly on-topic though, I like the idea, but I also have to agree with Tiggy: once it's done, it's done, and even if people could continue to do quests in the name of 'general upkeep', I don't think as many people would. I'm already getting that vibe from the Beastmen dailies. Once everyone finishes those up again, we'll be stuck with a barren Zanr'ak and Slyphlands.

sounds like OP is talking about EQ next.

I don't like this idea at all, haven't we learned anything from having different access for different servers (housing anyone?)

I like this idea. Makes exploration much more fun that way.

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Originally Posted by Magis

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Originally Posted by Ryios

I remember doing something like this in Wow for one of the expansions, can't remember what it was called though.

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AQ in original WoW? Crashed/lagged servers due to everyone being in Silithus.

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I think he's talking about the Isle of Quel'danas, which was gradually unlocked as the server as a whole completed isle-related daily quests.

That said, I've pushed for something along those lines, but tied to daily quests or even doing resource gathering like the AQ gate event. The OP's suggestion gives DoL and DoH content they can participate in, which is a step above what I've suggested in the past.

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Originally Posted by Mysteltain

Kinda reminds me of opening up Rachel Temple in Ragnarok Online. I think the entire server had to donate about 50,000,000 zenny before it became available, but you could only donate after you went through this pretty lengthy quest chain. Having played on a private server with a population of around 300-500, well, needless to say it took us a while, haha!

Directly on-topic though, I like the idea, but I also have to agree with Tiggy: once it's done, it's done, and even if people could continue to do quests in the name of 'general upkeep', I don't think as many people would. I'm already getting that vibe from the Beastmen dailies. Once everyone finishes those up again, we'll be stuck with a barren Zanr'ak and Slyphlands.

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I'd implement it as a one-time unlock because having everyone participate gives current players something to do while also creating a milestone that you can be part of. THose of us who were around before the Calamity have our milestone in the history of this game.

If, say, the devs were to implement the restoration of Ala Mihgo using the OP as a base, the people who participated would at least get a feeling of "well, my presence made a difference in the world" without specifically giving names or anything like that. I personally was present for both AQ AND Quel'danas, and I still look back fondly at something in the game world that was unlocked due to a combined effort from all players.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Also, forgot to add. Yoshi-P said they don't want crafting to feel required. This would make it required so you need something that adds reasons to craft while at the same time players could potentially ignore it if they wanted to.

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If they required crafters for relics, they can require crafters for this too I reckon. You needed to get a Level 50 crafter of the correct profession to craft and/or meld your weapon for you before you could progress on the Relic quest line.

It doesn't invalidate crafters, and at least makes them feel like they are needed for some parts of the game (which admittedly, there's not enough of outside of Relics).

OP's idea make me think of Voyage Century Online.

How about we have some camps which are overrun with beastman and the players attempt to recapture it.

After capturing the camp will be a rundown shack with minimal facilities.
Players have to invest, submit items or grab some quests to "lvl up" the camp for more facilities.
( more rare mining/harvesting nodes, lower aetherythe tele cost, better dungeons only open if the camp reach certain lvl etc... )

Every week certain time(FATE??) beastman(with a boss NM) will invade to try to recapture the base n players + npcs will have to defend it.

Losing the camp the players will have to capture again and the camp will drop lvls depending the amount of time the beastman controlling it.

Something like hamlets in 1.23 but with open world concept.

This camp should be somewhat a projected place of gathering for adventurers for future contents like what revenant toll is now...