Odin, tainted go? Or shapeshifting phantom? (Possible Spoilers)

So I learned a new mechanic of odin from the general discussion

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Lalafell-Odin

Odin takes the shape of the last foe that had some specific interaction with him. Be it last hit first encountered I do not know. But from a lore prospective this is very interesting.

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From the quests out Urth's Gift we learn three things of Odin

- Odin attacked and defeated Urth (provoked or not not disclosed)
- In turn defeated by an Allagan hero
- imprisioned in a stone at Urth's gift

But if we assume that this isn't just the devs humor in the works that Odin be it via a power or neccessaity mimics the one that defeats him or even the one that defeats him becomes Odin (Of course if its a player the devs wouldn't strip you of a character).

So I have come to the theory that Odin isn't so much a primal in the sense he/she is summoned by prayer but a primal as in a force of nature that is replinshed, revived, and ressurrected by the world as a whole.

Theory:
- Possible created from the blood of Urth
- Odin is a primal of war/combat
- "Odin" is a title more then a name
- Odin is specifically a curse proving Violence begets violence as the one that defeats "Odin" becomes "Odin"

The first "Odin" would be the Allagan hero himself and could have trapped himself in the rock to stop repeating cycle. If some one released him and did not defeat him it would fall on the strongest to face, slay and in return become Odin effectly downing the most powerful warriors in gridiana.

The final words of Odin warning of not knowing what you did with slaying him is possible evidence of signing your own demise.

Interesting theory. What's a "tainted go" ?

yeah tainted god sorry is there a way to fix my title?

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Originally Posted by Sakasa

yeah tainted god sorry is there a way to fix my title?

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Not usually, though sometimes if you ask really nicely in the thread, a Mod will ninja fix it for you.

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Originally Posted by Sakasa

So I have come to the theory that Odin isn't so much a primal in the sense he/she is summoned by prayer but a primal as in a force of nature that is replinshed, revived, and ressurrected by the world as a whole.

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Could be that the citizenry are subconsciously wishing for strong warriors to defend them, unwittingly summoning a manifestation of the strongest warrior from the very aether itself? And if this manifestation is defeated, the next summoning would "improve on the design," so to speak. After all, whoever vanquished the summoning last time was stronger than the "strongest warrior."

Urth was a prominent figure. In Norse mythology, she is the goddess of fate. I think by killing her, Odin was forever cursed. I had this idea that Odin was a failed or an early Allagan "hero-augmenting" experiment that escaped. That's why they sent their hero (Acheron or another successfully augmented one) to clean up the mess.

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Originally Posted by Evane

Urth was a prominent figure. In Norse mythology, she is the goddess of fate. I think by killing her, Odin was forever cursed. I had this idea that Odin was a failed or an early Allagan "hero-augmenting" experiment that escaped. That's why they sent their hero (Acheron or another successfully augmented one) to clean up the mess.

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I have heard SE call him a "wandering primal" though, which is separate from Allag inventions.

btw seems odin take the name of the first who see him or enter in his area, cuz last time a friend had the name under odin and the last time he doesn't there to kill it

Ah ok, but does that mean that the lalafel was a lalafel before the first player sees him or does odin not spawn until the boundry is crossed?

We already have confirmation that he is an Elder Primal, which I would assume would separate him from the Primals in some way. As the only Elders to be known currently are Bahamut and Odin, I would say that they are unlike Leviathan, Garuda, Titan , etc. in that they needn't be summoned, rather they summon themselves.

I remember Odin kept saying he could be a god but chose yo be mortal. Chances are, he might actually be the thirteenth god, but pass off that chance.

But can one assume that he was a god like prior to him turning his blade on Urth? But I think my lack of knowledge of who exactly Urth is/was belays a clue to Odin.

But as Evane stated maybe Urth name is the only clue you need. Urth perdicted him rising to god hood out of fear of loosing what he held dear in mortality he slayed Urth and in turn became a "god" specifically falling into a Oedipus cycle.

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

I remember Odin kept saying he could be a god but chose yo be mortal. Chances are, he might actually be the thirteenth god, but pass off that chance.

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I don't think that's him proclaiming god-hood, though. It feels more like giving anyone who encounters him a 'worthy opponent' type vibe.

It's a slight stretch, but "Urth" as a name seems like it'd be most likely to belong to a Keeper-of-the-Moon woman.

Here's an old Odin thread I started. I'm not sure if this'll answer any people's questions, but it's got most of the information we currently know about Odin, as well as speculation.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...st-who-is-Odin