Best in Slot for SMN after 2.1?

What is BIS for SMN after 2.1? the one that i found is:
Weapon: Allagan
Head: AF2
Body: AF2
Hands: AF2
Belt: Hero
Leg: Allagan
Feet: Allagan
Neck: Hero
Ear: Allagan
Wrist: Hero
Ring: Allagan + Hero

Is this still correct?

Swap the belt for allagan, swap the earrings for tremor, swap the allagan ring for vortex, and I think that’s the standard 440’ish accuracy setup.

There's been mention of a possibility that pet accuracy cap was lowered to match the summoner's cap, which would mean about 432 or so. If that is the case then:

Head Myth
Body Myth
Hands Myth
Belt Allagan
Legs Allagan
Feet Allagan
Neck Myth
Earrings Allagan
Wrist Myth
Rings Myth + Primal

Gets you 432 without food. I'm assuming pet still doesn't benefit from food so that'd be perfect. If this is incorrect and you still need to hit the 445+ mark then just replacing Allagan earrings with Primal gets you 16 more for 448.

That's for coil anyway. For primals you can get away with even less accuracy, so replace AF gloves with Allagan.

OMG. Don't tell me the pet issue with food was adressed... I just ignored the allagan earrings 'cause I had the Titan's one --"

God... first time I saw them in 3 months T_T

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Originally Posted by Seobit

There's been mention of a possibility that pet accuracy cap was lowered to match the summoner's cap...

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I haven't seen any information or hard-evidence provided for this, so it would be best to assume BiS for SMN is still

Weapon: Allagan Grimoire of Casting
Head: Summoner's Horn
Body: Summoner's Doublet
Gloves: Summoner's Ringbands
Belt: Allagan Rope Belt of Casting
Pants: Allagan Breeches of Casting
Boots: Allagan Boots of Casting
Neck: Hero's Necklace of Casting
Earrings: Tremor Earrings of Casting
Wrist: Hero's Bracelet of Casting
Ring: Vortex Ring of Casting
Ring: Hero's Ring of Casting

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Originally Posted by Shamirah

OMG. Don't tell me the pet issue with food was adressed... I just ignored the allagan earrings 'cause I had the Titan's one --"

God... first time I saw them in 3 months T_T

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Mine dropped tonight too, but I took them because I was the one who reported lower pet accuracy cap over the weekend. :P

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Originally Posted by Ambiguous

I haven't seen any information or hard-evidence provided for this, so it would be best to assume BiS for SMN is still

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How much hard proof do you need? Run T5, take off enough gear to get down to ~235 accuracy, watch garuda hit 100%.

You should grab everything you can unless someone needs it more. Grabbed Allagan neck and Ifrit bracers last week just because who knows, maybe they make dots work with spellspeed in 2.15 and it becomes master stat!

And even if you still need the 448 accuracy set for coil, you should still grab the other low acc pieces for a primal set.

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Originally Posted by T0rin

How much hard proof do you need? Run T5, take off enough gear to get down to ~235 accuracy, watch garuda hit 100%.

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It's more than I haven't really seen any proof at all. This is the first time I saw any information basically saying accuracy for pets is moot.

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Originally Posted by Ambiguous

It's more than I haven't really seen any proof at all. This is the first time I saw any information basically saying accuracy for pets is moot.

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I don't know if they changed the pet affecting food issue, but I can personally attest to the pet accuracy cap being under 436.

Oh god !

I didn't take the earrings 'cause a FC friend wanted it for his smn alt and since he got no luck with allagan items, I let him have them.

Anyway. Nice to know ! I'm gonna trust you on this Torin !

Oh guys, can you pray for me next week ? Still haven't since the legs since the beginning --" Wanna get the earrings + the legs \o/

Kisses <3

I've ran coil 427 accuracy (435 with food) tonight, 4.3% miss on garuda. :|

So the next piece i need to buy is neck and wrist.. i was going to buy the belt XD

Farming Garuda for the ring it's easy... but Titan >.<

Since we're talking about different acc totals for different fights... what should it be at for non coil things (I guess the only thing that really matters is extreme primals)? Or even lower turns if the difference between 1 and 5 is sizable.

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Originally Posted by Seobit

I've ran coil 427 accuracy (435 with food) tonight, 4.3% miss on garuda. :|

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So you're saying Torin got really lucky on t5 with his Garuda ?

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Originally Posted by Shamirah

So you're saying Torin got really lucky on t5 with his Garuda ?

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Or the 9 accuracy I had more was enough to 100% garuda. I don't think you can get 'really lucky' over the course of 3 hours. Previously, you would lose a whole lot more than 4.3% on Garuda at 427 accuracy.

Yeah. I wanna see numbers for 432 base.

I think I'll craft a +8 acc earring or something to us in T5 this week, which would put me at 432 exactly. I'll also try running 436 again with no food, to see if Garuda is still doing 100%.

"Thankfully" I just moved into a BC group that doesn't have T5 down yet, so I have a good number of hours every week to test accuracy. My old group was just 1-2 shotting it, so not much room for testing.

Looking forward to it T0rin <3

I can try with 431 tonight, unless pants drop

Pet was at 100% accuracy with only 431 during 2 attempts

431 for t5 attempts? That's pretty awesome if so, means we need one less accuracy piece now.

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Originally Posted by horaiyo

431 for t5 attempts? That's pretty awesome if so, means we need one less accuracy piece now.

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Replace Titan's Earrings with Allagan's Earrings

Could be just me but it seems that FFXIV-App may be parsing pet (own) accuracy incorrectly for whatever reason. I just did T5 with another summoner and I tested this out. I had 100% Garuda accuracy (according to FFXIV-App) with 438 accuracy but on my parser his Garuda parsed ~96% with 439. Will test more next week in T1-5.

I'll try to remember to load up the parser when we go into t5 later this week and compare with someone else in my group.

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Originally Posted by Typrix

Could be just me but it seems that FFXIV-App may be parsing pet (own) accuracy incorrectly for whatever reason. I just did T5 with another summoner and I tested this out. I had 100% Garuda accuracy (according to FFXIV-App) with 438 accuracy but on my parser his Garuda parsed ~96% with 439. Will test more next week in T1-5.

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The 4% miss rate I reported for my Garuda was also based on data gathered by someone else from my group (I don't run parsers myself). That's some pretty confusing info.

If the acc has been lowered on the pet then praise hydaelyn. After trying out smn Ive lost some interest in my blm and am interested in gearing it up. Id like to have it in mostly allagan on the body (have all the accessories outside of a couple primals) if i can and save myths for heals and mnk when it gets there soon.

That myth summoner robe is pretty cool, but that jang-a-lang on ya head though...smh no lol

Watch it boy, lest you make powerful enemies for insulting the phallic symbol of our supremacy.

Just turn headpiece effects off, that's what I do. I can't stand looking at the horn, even if it is part of summoner history. Of course, I hate how all of the summoner myth pieces look, so maybe it's just me. Hurry up vanity slots, I don't want to keep looking at my stupid, tiny wings.

To quote a wise internet scholar of old: "Nostrils flaring, I lower my head. My horn, like some phallic symbol of my potent virility, is the last thing you see as skulls collide and mine remains the victor. You are now a bloody red ragdoll suspended in the air on my mighty horn."

I admit, I lol'ed at that.

After testing today I found my parser to be bugged and garuda was showing as 0 damage. So I have no concrete info on pet accuracy cap.

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Originally Posted by Ragnirok

After testing today I found my parser to be bugged and garuda was showing as 0 damage. So I have no concrete info on pet accuracy cap.

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Same here.

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

Bugs happen :D Bug was killed ;)

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Did you find out if it was reporting inaccurate information about Garuda accuracy or not?

My garuda had about 3% miss rate on someone else's parser as well and I have 438 accuracy...

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

Best response:
"I don't always test code; but when I do... I do it in production." :D

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We have this printed out and hanging up on the wall at work...

http://www.troll.me/images/the-most-...production.jpg

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

Need more samples. Was more referring to "garuda was showing as 0 damage."

Best response:
"I don't always test code; but when I do... I do it in production." :D

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Tested some tonight, comparing FFXIV-APP to Logrep2 to ACT, and FFXIV-APP is constantly showing Garuda as 100% accuracy, even when the other 2 parsers are registering misses.

So, sadly, Garuda accuracy cap has not been lowered. I'm still getting misses at 438 accuracy, roughly 2% worth. Need to keep testing.

Has anyone done a BiS revolving around the Allagan Tunic of Casting? I am a BLM main so would like to keep Myth for my main class but i do have the Head and Robe from Coil.

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Originally Posted by Darkstarz

Has anyone done a BiS revolving around the Allagan Tunic of Casting? I am a BLM main so would like to keep Myth for my main class but i do have the Head and Robe from Coil.

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Since there is no accuracy on the myth body, so you could sub in the allagan body. But it is worse. You don't need to do 'BiS around it', because in every respect, it is a downgrade.

Can someone show me the maths that proves that getting Garuda acc-capped was a dps increase instead of just getting the 432 acc for the SMN acc cap ? Tyvm

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Originally Posted by Shamirah

Can someone show me the maths that proves that getting Garuda acc-capped was a dps increase instead of just getting the 432 acc for the SMN acc cap ? Tyvm

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You can ^_^