I am getting so tired of farming primal weapons...

I have 5 lvl 50s now and only 2 relics. I've been trying for 50 attempts now to get my WAR axe from either Ifrit or Mog and I'm seriously pulling my hair out here. The fights-- Ifrit especially has gotten longer due to erupts not being able to be stunned as often as before 2.1 so sometimes PUGs can't get the nails down fast enough. While the Moogle Axe is better, it just hasn't dropped for me.

Weapons especially for tanks are so important and yet, I'm stuck with my stupid i55 Darklight Bill because after 50 attepmts at Ifrit and 20 attempts at Mog, not one axe has ever dropped. I can't even get my relic because I need the axe from either Garuda or Mog just to attempt Titan. It's really getting frustrating and the crafted i70 weapons are extremely expensive on my server for not much of an upgrade.

I am really hoping that we can at least get a better solution to this sometime in the near future. I feel like I just can't make any progress in my character at the moment because the RNG loot engine is trolling me.

just get the relic weapon its better anyways or farm titan HM its weapon is better then ifrit. its ilvl 80 now not 70. Or you can just get the primal extreme weapon from the weekly. I'm sure on a relic character you can do the weekly and just get the ilvl 90 axe off the vendor. and you do not need your garuda/ifrit/mog weapon to do titan. Specially after the emnity update. Just use the ilvl 55 crafted weapon thats what i did on my very first 50 pld tank....

Drops from primals can be really bad luck ( thanks SE added Mog that rediculsly easy for ilv 70 farm) . Also depend on job on Balmung hq ilv 70 weapons dropped to 80~100k now , idk 80 not even big gil , this amount you can do in1~2 days w/o working hard .

I have not found a PUG yet that has been able to take down Garuda EX let alone Titan or Ifrit. Otherwise, yeah, that Primal Extreme axe would probably be my first one. On the off chance that my FC would be able to help me with titan on WAR, I'm almost worried about being a liability due to low dps from having a DL weapon. But on Balmung, if you don't have at least an i70 weapon, few people will allow you into a group for Titan HM.

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

I have 5 lvl 50s now and only 2 relics. I've been trying for 50 attempts now to get my WAR axe from either Ifrit or Mog and I'm seriously pulling my hair out here. The fights-- Ifrit especially has gotten longer due to erupts not being able to be stunned as often as before 2.1 so sometimes PUGs can't get the nails down fast enough. While the Moogle Axe is better, it just hasn't dropped for me.

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Post 2.1 I've seen people claim that ifrit is harder to stun now... but I haven't seen any real proof...
I've been to ifrit hm a few times since 2.1 patch, but "oddly enough", it's mainly been in parties with dragoons that eruption stuns have been an issue, with one or two times it simply being bad pld stunning too late.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

Post 2.1 I've seen people claim that ifrit is harder to stun now... but I haven't seen any real proof...
I've been to ifrit hm a few times since 2.1 patch, but "oddly enough", it's mainly been in parties with dragoons that eruption stuns have been an issue, with one or two times it simply being bad pld stunning too late.

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You will get resists after about 3 stuns. I'm a warrior and occasionally have been asked to do stun duty and I can only really stun every other one by myself due to the 20 second cooldown, but I've gotten quite a few resists on him and I know I'm the only one stunning. Also the limit bar fills slower in 2.1 if you have too many of the same class in your party (refer to patch notes for this information) which makes getting LB3 for your blm/smn to nuke the nails tougher as well (assuming you get one in your DF party lol)

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

I have not found a PUG yet that has been able to take down Garuda EX let alone Titan or Ifrit. Otherwise, yeah, that Primal Extreme axe would probably be my first one. On the off chance that my FC would be able to help me with titan on WAR, I'm almost worried about being a liability due to low dps from having a DL weapon. But on Balmung, if you don't have at least an i70 weapon, few people will allow you into a group for Titan HM.

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just do the primals on a class that already has the relic weapon with your FC.... i dont get how people dont understand this jsut go in with a class you are geared enough for and roll on the gear you want.

Ifrit is not hard to stun now. Its just for PLD (assuming no one else is stunning) you get the first 3 stuns, then hes immune for 1 minute. And if the MT is also a PLD and he times his shield swipe he can also interrupt some as well.

But yeah i agree, i have been farming Ifrit HM like crazy for anything good. But all i see is the SCH and SMN crap haha.

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

just do the primals on a class that already has the relic weapon with your FC.... i dont get how people dont understand this jsut go in with a class you are geared enough for and roll on the gear you want.

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You can't. You have to do the primals on the job you are getting your relic for.

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

You can't. You have to do the primals on the job you are getting your relic for.

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i didnt say relic i was talking about the item drop. you said people wont let you in to the group unless you have ilvl 70 weapon. just farm titan hm with one that you are already relic and get the titan weapon. getting relic weapons anymore is a waste with the titan ilvl 80 and primal weekly ilvl 90

Go on your main and join a 1pld garudafarm
Or the crafted weapons on every server ive seen are like 100k, which can easily be made in 1 day and let you meld so is the better option really but people are too lazy generally

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

Also the limit bar fills slower in 2.1 if you have too many of the same class in your party (refer to patch notes for this information) which makes getting LB3 for your blm/smn to nuke the nails tougher as well (assuming you get one in your DF party lol)

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You have no idea how much i hate this by the way. Been running Iffrit a lot lately, and many times i will just have two bars up when they come, and have to decide if the group is good enough to get the nails down with that or wait and panic for 3 bars. i usually get yelled at if only 2 bars and use it, but also if i wait for three bars and cut it close. Every other battle seems fine, but that one is a pain. :P

Get someone to craft you an HQ Rampager and meld some materia into it. That should be more than enough to tank Titan with assuming the rest of your gear is up to scratch. Philo tome materials are dirt-cheap right now so it shouldn't even cost you much to get this made.

I used a Darklight Bill and killed titan 4 times with it. This "you can only kill him with a primal weapon" is all garbage. Skill yes...but primal weapons have little, if anything, to do with it.

I agree withthe OP, I have been farming Garuda, killed her 11 times with 18groups, not one bow drop. I am a new player so using another job with relic is not an option. I do not feel I wanna start learning Titan HM without the iLvL70 bow, so I keep at it.

They need to put in a gear level for the HMs, if they have, it is too low. A guy with a lvl37 bow has no business in HMs, same for the tank with the LvL15 neck piece.

Well i am just slow to get to relic quest, lol
But that really does sound bad having to do Primals over and over again.
Can Bard's not stun Ifrit HM?
Only asking as i should be getting to him soon

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Originally Posted by Maero

Well i am just slow to get to relic quest, lol
But that really does sound bad having to do Primals over and over again.
Can Bard's not stun Ifrit HM?
Only asking as i should be getting to him soon

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Generally the stuns should be coming from one of the two tanks. Most parties I get involved with get antsy if anyone other than the off-tank on stun duty starter I stun, due mostly in part to the 'resist' factor.

time to join a new FC if they can't help you with just HM primals. Even in full darklight, it was easy to carry at least 1 person in HM primals.

Why do you need the Ifrit or Mog Weapon to do the HM modes? If you are not MT(and even then) you do surely do not need a better weapon than the i55 Darkbill.

all the primal HMS are cordination not dps races. other then 1 phase heart phase or spine phase. which neither require more then ilvl 55 weapon. if you know how to do your rotation

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

all the primal HMS are cordination not dps races. other then 1 phase heart phase or spine phase. which neither require more then ilvl 55 weapon. if you know how to do your rotation

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I know but people freak out if you dont have the iLvL70 garuda wep, but you are right, heck i got the Ifrit bow, i just gonna join a Titan HM learning party this weekend.

I cleared Titan HM as a BLM with the Ifrit weapon, but my other gear was stellar (I was ilvl70 after a few pieces of gear from CT and my Myth chest).

If you are tanking you can honestly do it with DL armor and just the ilevel 55 weapon, thats how I did it my first kill. Primal Weapon is more important for DPS then it is for the tank, although it does help. Just make sure you have decent armor, tried to help heal for a pug group last night, the PLD tank was in mostly AF / ilevel 55 mix for his left side and accessories were all ilevel 49 or lower, rougly 4.8 or 4.9k HP. We got pass heart phase, but once Titan started using MB, the tank was getting killed left and right even when he was topped off.

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Originally Posted by rabbitzero

You have no idea how much i hate this by the way. Been running Iffrit a lot lately, and many times i will just have two bars up when they come, and have to decide if the group is good enough to get the nails down with that or wait and panic for 3 bars. i usually get yelled at if only 2 bars and use it, but also if i wait for three bars and cut it close. Every other battle seems fine, but that one is a pain. :P

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I don't know for sure, but from what I've read successful Interrupts provide a good boost to limit gauge. Less Eruptions being interrupted would slow the progress down from what it was previously.

To the OP. I beat Titan with Darklight Bill, but I was not MT. Had a good group of friends help, this was before 2.1 so I pretty much stuck to the storms eye combo and called out plumes for everyone.

u do not need dps only surviving avoiding all his crap

I think you should just be grateful weapons have a 100% chance of dropping, lol xD

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Originally Posted by ZodiacSoldier

Primal Weapon is more important for DPS then it is for the tank

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Which is why they drop far more often for DPS than tank. Hell, Paladins don't even get a Titan weapon, just the shield.

Tell me about it... I've done ifrit over 20 times trying to get the Sword for PLD, Gotten 5 of the 9 weapons. I gave up and just did my relic quest.

Wasnt easy, for a week of failures and deaths vs chimera and hydra, and then the primals Hards.

Then when I clear Titan HM for the first time, I get the Shield, just when I was done with theh relic quest XD

Like in Monster Hunter, the reverse psychology of needed drops applies here. If you need something so much, the game will be aware of it and make the RNG hate the crap out of you and never give you anything (even less with a 11% drop rate for each primal weapon.)

My suggestion is dont do Primal HMs for weapons. theres a 8/9th chance you'll be dissapointed.

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Originally Posted by ArkAurelius

Like in Monster Hunter, the reverse psychology of needed drops applies here. If you need something so much, the game will be aware of it and make the RNG hate the crap out of you and never give you anything (even less with a 11% drop rate for each primal weapon.)

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Lol I've thought of this many times!
Even more proof is the fact that Yoshi is a big fan of Monster Hunter.
I bet the japanese have a giant robot somewhere that can read our minds.

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

On the off chance that my FC would be able to help me with titan on WAR, I'm almost worried about being a liability due to low dps from having a DL weapon.
But on Balmung, if you don't have at least an i70 weapon, few people will allow you into a group for Titan HM.

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While it's true that having a better weapon makes things easier, Titan HM is not that hard of a fight if people know what they do.
Bwt. if your FC won't help you with getting relic or a titan weapon...I'd go and look for one where people help eachother.

And people recruiting in party finder with ilvl70-80 for Titan HM often don't even have ilvl60 themself and just try to get carried.
ilvl60-65 is enough if people (including tank) can dodge and if you have a WHM+SCH as healers and not 2 WHM or 2 SCH.

Them japanese, making crazy mind reading robots. Im sure this mind reading robot is readying everyone's luck and soon will make everyone's drops nigh existant, and everyone will be blaming the faulty RNG.

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Originally Posted by ArkAurelius

Them japanese, making crazy mind reading robots. Im sure this mind reading robot is readying everyone's luck and soon will make everyone's drops nigh existant, and everyone will be blaming the faulty RNG.

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Do Extreme Primals, no tomes, no stupid 20 step long process, just 3 fights, once a week until u have what you need. Easy enough to pug once you learn the fights.