Commendation System: So who get's your vote?

I'm curious of other players way of thinking on this, who do you guys determine worthy of your vote be it DPS, tank or healers?

I give mine to someone who stood out to me. If no one "stands out" to me, i give no commendation. I usually do give commendations though. I find myself spreading them out quite evenly. Did the tank hold aggro and pull well? Did he quickly correct mistakes?
Does the DPS hold back the damage in pinch spots to avoid taking aggro if the tank had a weak moment? Does a DPS player stun/silence occasionally on trash?
Does the healer keep us so high on HP that we aren't even worried about damage?
Who dodged mechanics well?
These are the sorts of things that i ponder when giving a commendation.

Same as Anubis said. I try to recall good game play and not just to the class I feel puts in the most work. being a Healer I can def tell whos getting hit by things, or who is constantly. Its one thing to get hit by mechanics you're not use to, but to continue to fail and nearly die to them through out a fight is another thing. I def have handed em out to DPS and Tanks depending on performance.

I don't really care , just click randomly ( everyone want heart u know XD )

First of all I count how nice that person is. Friendlieness is the most important factor for me. After that efficiency. As a healer, I try not to give it to the tank too often, if there's someone else worthy ofc, because I'm sure they're the ones they get more, since as a tank you stand out more.

I first look at whether anyone responded to the "Hello everyone" that I start every dungeon off with. Responding is, effectively, required for me to give someone a Commendation. If multiple people respond, I tend to look at who "stood out" the most for me, in terms of friendliness and skill. I also factor in whether or not they're actually doing the dungeon for a non-Roulette reason; i.e., if we're doing Copperbell (Normal), and there's a legitimate level 17 player in there, I will be inclined to Commend them over others, all else being equal.

I tend to agree with everyone's post on some level, friendless and helpfulness are very important qualities. If I ask "any good strat for this boss" and I get a reply along the line's of "l2p noob Monk" your not getting a commendation. I give what I recieve. When I'm dps-ing I sometimes find it harder to notice how everyone is performing with their roles unless (to echo what fraeblood touched on) I'm on my WHM, it's very to see then if people are standing in stuff they shouldn't be or not using CD's at the right time or having to be rezzed 5 time's in one fight :p

The new dungeons have a lot of mechanics that will put DPS' to work. If a DPS can switch and DPS down adds quickly, dodge AOEs and pull off mechanics like the first boss in Copperbell or the Zuu in Pharos and is generally friendly then he gets my commendation.

I hand them out more or less randomly unless someone really stands out. But it takes a lot for me to notice since I'm usually focused on doing my own thing (DPSING as much as I can as a healer without letting anyone die). I get quite a few as a healer, I figure if I want more I'll just pick up tanking. I'll get 500 soon enough anyways.

Best fashion sense. Here's to you; Lotus Pink Darksteel tank.

I don't really have a list on who gets it, more so as who doesn't get it.

#1: Impatient people (rushes into a fight before the tank while someone's brb'd, keeps saying "hurry up!")
#2: Someone who's rude and/or starts a fight with the party
#3: Tells people how to play, rather than helping them understand how to play

If no one has done the above then it's based on helpfulness (giving information on battles)- if no one did, then whoever dodged the AoE's best (since I'm a healer)

To be honest, I give them to the other DPS regardless of how good or bad they are. 9/10 times you're not gunna get them on DPS regardless of what you do.

Plays class well, friendly (at minimum says hello upon entry, good job on exit), and offers advice on dungeon mechanics when appropriate or if asked.

Personality comes first. If someone makes a dungeon more pleasant than usual, they get it.

Failing that, usually whichever DPS helped the group more. Because I'm usually either healing or tanking, and I have higher standards for those two roles.

Really depends on the circumstances. I had a lower geared Warrior tank in WP the other day while I was on my WHM. they said they wanted as fast as run as possible so I was dropping so many holy's I knew I was gonna get beat to hell. Guy never lost agro, not once even with chain Holy's so..he got my commondation. I'll give it to dps a lot because it's not fair they have a harder time standing out.

Just because a tank held agro under normal circumstances isn't a reason enough. Someone has to stand out and show they play their class really well. Clutch moment they held together. While i'm on my Pld maybe we got some bad timing and pulled the big ton's and the healer managed to keep us all up. that kinda stuff.

"On a refreshing morning, start out with a refreshing greeting." And "Number 58 of the 1,000 provisions I would like you to observe, never talk to me while I'm humming to myself. This is an important provision do you understand?". If you can abide by these, you can receive my commendation.

I've found that the all too common trend is to give the commendation to the tank or healer. I play a whm, a blm, a sch, and an archer and my whm gets far more commendations than my blm or bard. For this reason, I tend to ignore the healers and tanks simply because I feel like too many people are commending them simply for doing their job and look at which dps was able to stand out to me because they tend to get overlooked. If nobody stands out, I'll base my decision on other factors like who's name I like the most, lol.

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Originally Posted by Lyrro

I've found that the all too common trend is to give the commendation to the tank or healer. I play a whm, a blm, a sch, and an archer and my whm gets far more commendations than my blm or bard. For this reason, I tend to ignore the healers and tanks simply because I feel like too many people are commending them simply for doing their job and look at which dps was able to stand out to me because they tend to get overlooked. If nobody stands out, I'll base my decision on other factors like who's name I like the most, lol.

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I've noticed this too, most of my commendations came on my WHM, even though I was only doing my job and nothing exceptional at the time. When I'm on my Monk it rarely happens except the one time when I took time out to explain Haukke HM (had a fully new party) and blew everyone away with MONK POWAA

I kind of have a mental flowchart for it:

1) Was the person performing excellently? Such as Healer helping out with DPS during downtime, tanks being on the ball with adds, DPS doing interrupts outside of good DPS etc.
2) Did the person step up to lead the group when needed? Sometimes explanations and marking need to be done, there's always new players coming and going.
3) Was the person friendly? Joy and mirth during the dungeon run can make even those slow DPS or wipefest runs enjoyable.
4) Whenever I feel fickle. Sometimes I've commended people for garish colour schemes and silly names. :p

That said, I haven't given very many commendations myself. Suppose I have far too high standards for the Duty Finder. <_<

Also, people going "commend pls" at the end of a dungeon can go suck it. That immediately demotes them to no commendation, regardless if they were the best player I had seen the entire week. :p

I give commendations to people who make me laugh and aren't elitist ragers. Those are about the only requirements.

I wish I could give them to more than just one person at times though; I've randomed with some pretty fun people.

Depends on what I see. When I'm tank, I'm able to see what DPS is using at any time, along with the healer. When I'm DPS (meaning Bard), I can see the entire field and get a grasp on what each person is doing, along with whether or not DoTs are being used. When I'm healer, I'm watching the health bars mostly and buffs while watching the rest of the party do their thing. I will mentally note any errors or anything like that. I give it to the tank if they impressed me with the aggro hold, I give it to the DPS if I specifically see people doing their jobs well, I give it to the healer if I feel they went through a rough time. If everybody is doing their job...it hurts me because it gets really hard to choose. If nobody is doing their job correctly, nobody gets my commendation.

I usually look for the person who went above and beyond the basic stuff that their class can do during a run. The little things that help out without being too obvious but show that the person knows their class, the content, and how the two interact. Given that, if someone's new to content and does a good job, I'll usually give it to them because it's nice to get recognition for not messing up when you're new to the content.

Forgot to add: I'm very keen to give it to someone who fails and apologizes for it, and is very nice about it. I value disposition more then skills, and someone able to admit hir mistakes is imho a very precious player.

One thing I'm noticing, whenever I stupidly fail and die I get commendations in the end. If I do all flawlessly less likely. Do they appreciate my saying sorry or they just had to chance to make a good laugh at my fails? Cause it's hard to understand, I'm starting to think that if I wnat commendations I have to fail more <.<

I give it to Black Mage if he is sleeping mobs when I am tank, healers if they are doing a great job of keeping me alive and depending on how things go it might go to dps for doing a great job of picking up adds.
If I am DPS (Archer) I will give it to another dps or the healer. However, if the tank is super nice and giving other players helpful instruction, marking mobs, controlling argo and just being a kick <snip> tank you will get my vote for sure.

I am really torn when I get a bunch of noobs in a dungeon and they all do a great job. I usually say I want to give one to everyone but unfortunately you can't. It would be nice if you could do a commendation for everyone once a week for those special times.

I would have given it to the DPS who had macro'd "FORM BLAZING SWORD" on his Limit Break when I did WP a few days ago, but he left too quickly :P

I don't really have a criteria for giving these yet, so I've only given out two so far. And, one was a really nice tnk who said he had also suffered because of heavy lag on a first release PS3. He was so nice!

The person who makes the dungeon fun.. talking, wearing santa outfits, doing ludicrous pulls, something that breaks the monotiny a bit.

If no one talks, everything goes smooth, everyone does their job, then just the last person to leave.

When I tank, I get 1-3
When I heal I get 0-2
When I dps I get 0-1

When I explain things to new people, and show patience, I almost always get recommendation.

As for giving them...

If someone is wearing a silly costume, they are automatically not getting one.

IF they ask for it, they aren't getting one.

If they do their job effectively, they get one.

For my commendations, I like to give them to DPS because I know as a DPS, I have a hard time getting them (I saved us from a wipe once and I didn't get any ;O; ). But if I had criteria it would be: if you say hello at the start (I like conversations even if it's just a hello and good job at the end), if you do your job really well (that makes me go "I wish you were on my server"), if you make me laugh. If everyone's even or if none of the criteria are met, I throw one to a DPS unless they annoyed the crap out of me.

Its seem to me that since this system has been implemented everyone is nice inside instances. With no exception I haven't come across an asshole yet. Everyone talks every greets each other. Everyone offers advice and even motivate others when we fail. I tend to give the vote to the person that made me lol. you run into people who are obviously trolling for votes, but they tend to be funny and helpful so they get it from me almost all the time. Tanks that allow my whm to dps a lot. Dps that destroy things faster than i thought possible. Healer that dont complain when i go a lil overboard. In some instances people say there goodbyes and take off leaving only one person to vote for anyway. Labyrinth of the Ancients is the only place where Ive seen some jerks. Usually one party teasing the another for slower boss kill or something dumb like that but overall cool since I been there only 3 times.

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Originally Posted by VentiSei

I would have given it to the DPS who had macro'd "FORM BLAZING SWORD" on his Limit Break when I did WP a few days ago,
but he left too quickly :P

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Lol that's nice. I have that and an entire bar of random limit break macros.

Usually anyone who was chatty and friendly, or an exceptional DPS that doesn't act like a jerk.

I just keep an eye out in PUG runs for someone commendation worthy, lol. Be it a tank who leads the party well, someone who is accepting of newer players- or even just someone who shows significant improvement after being offered advice (ie a tank i had in my alliance for Crystal Tower. Offered a few tips, they listened and picked up very quickly.)
If a bard puts up Mage's Ballad right when I need it- they get it.

As a healer though, the commendations just roll in :/ Even if i stay silent the whole run I still wind up with 1 or 2.

I used to give it to whoever impressed me in the run. However, it's very hard for a DPS to be impressive. We don't have much we can do that stands out other than making sure we don't pull agro, which could always be a fault of the tank rather than a fault of the DPS. We don't prevent wipes like Tanks and Healers do, nor do we do anything but speed up the majority of runs that a Warrior and a single healer could probably manage on their own.

In the end I decided to give it to whoever was nicest in the run. If someone explains something in a dungeon and doesn't act like an ass to the new guy they automatically sign up for a commendation. If someone says hi at the start they also sign up. If they tell someone they're doing something wrong in a nice way they automatically sign up again. Whoever gets the most "sign ups" gets it.

If the first thing they say is "SR?", though, they automatically get no commendations no matter what miracles they pull off in the dungeon. I'll give it to the other DPS (if they aren't the "SR asshat") if no one deserves it because I know we rarely get them.

However, I'm very likely to give Bards a commendation if they're good. We had a Bard save our group in Ifrit HM today with a very well timed LB3 when both healers died from plumes. Mage's Ballad is another good move to get yourself commendations.

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Originally Posted by Ashira

Best fashion sense. Here's to you; Lotus Pink Darksteel tank.

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You wouldn't happen to remember the name of that tank would you? :p

I don't automatically give commendations to people who say hi or are obviously trying way too hard to get them - "Omg AMAAAZING Job guys! You're all so wonderful and perfect! ^_^!!!" after every fight? I'm just like ... >.>

I guess it's because I have always been kind and patient with people in dungeons, so I tend to give it to the people who seem genuine and aren't fishing for them. So yeah I'll commend that one dps who performed well but may have been mostly quiet. DPS often get my commendations, in fact. I notice the little things.

I vote the nicest and most social person in the group. since this is usually tied by all other players in the party, I then use player skill as the tie break (and if this is tied, I literally roll a 6-sided die and divide by 2).

The reason I don't heavily weight my decision on skill alone, is because I expect everyone to do their perspective jobs regardless. And Its hard to tell if someone is doing their specific rotation better or worse then other people during the heat of battle. I play MMO's to have fun adventuring with other people. So the people who help make the run fun for me are those that get the commendation. I just wish I could give out more then 1 commendation, because there are so many great people out there.

If a person is both nice and skilled, they are likely to get my upvote. A good 'player' but bad sport (skilled but a jerk) will never get my upvote.

As far as the commendations I receive...

I tend to get the most commendations when I play White Mage in PvE and Summoner in PvP. When people are equally skilled and equally helpful, I notice tanks are most likely to get a commendation (judging from my experience playing with a tank), unless the fight is particularly hard on the healers.

However, you can't give commendations to people who leave really fast... so those who aren't getting commendations should linger for a few seconds to see if they get one.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

However, you can't give commendations to people who leave really fast... so those who aren't getting commendations should linger for a few seconds to see if they get one.

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Regretfully, there has been someone out there that left right before I was able to commend them, because I was asking if anyone was on my Server so that I might Friend them. Now I make sure to vote people before I continue to socialize. But yes, I agree, people who would like to receive commendations should wait a little before exiting the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by revonine

I'm curious of other players way of thinking on this, who do you guys determine worthy of your vote be it DPS, tank or healers?

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I'm generally healer, so I scrutinize tanks. They'll get the hearts if they do well and/or "lead" the party.

Otherwise I give commendations based on incredibly specific criteria.

• Were they friendly? Not just "hello" but do we socialize and joke around to some degree?
• Do they help out the first timers? Do they exhibit patience?
• Subligar always get commendations.
• Do they have an "amusing alias?"
• Is their name LITERALLY "Amusing Alias?"
• Anyone from my FC/LS. This actually happened once purely by random.
• Did they invent a particularly creative sob story about why they absolutely need commendations? Hey, I like being entertained!
• I once gave a commendation to a tank because he ran in yelling "For Vanadiel!" Nostalgia hearts.

Mostly, how much are you helping me enjoy the game? That's why we're all here after all, isn't it?