Post 2.1 Ways to make Gil ?

I don't know about you guys, but the economy on my server has crashed hard. Prior to 2.1, I could make 100-300k in a few hours if I tried on a good day. Now i struggle to 50k a day. Part of me dies when I fully stock my Retainer with things to sell before going to bed only to wake up and find 0gil waiting for me and prices of what I was selling undercut by several hundreds to thousands.

Everything that use to be profitable has went down the drain. Fleece went from 200-300to about 50each, Same goes for Diremite Webs , Materia IV-III prices went from 50k-100k+ to average 10k or less. Tomes are dirt cheap, Crystals are in the single digits, and even prices for 2star Crafted gear have drop severly.

Before you guys say "Level a Crafting or DOL Class" I'd like to say I have GSM, CUL, CRP, ALC 50. My main source of income before were GSM, CUL, and my Miner but now I barely break even. With the market becoming more volatile, things are barely moving out of my retainer.

Has anyone found good ways to make gil from the system ? I say System because most people wont share thier secrets of making gil from players. And even if they did, posting it on here will surely boost their competition. I really wish SE implemented more ways to earn money from the game instead of other players.

Housing prices upwards of half a billion Gil has left people feeling poor. Before the housing, people were comfortable spending Gil and just playing the game. Now it's horde, baby horde.

The methods you are talking about are the ones I look for as well. Faucets where Gil comes from 'nothing' and is generated. The faucets in the game are in hard core lock down, they have been since ARR launched. They trickle in little puddles with 50 gil mob drops in DF queue restricted dungeons, hidden behind logistical nightmares like 1 star furniture. Where you need thousands of shard on top of crystals to make components to make components to make 10-20K Gil. There is no vendor loot. It's all 1 Gil wonders. The entire 400 levels of crafting net you less than a million Gil, even if you take all Gil rewards and Leve the classes.

One word. Stingy.

The only thing I've notice that is selling for more than spit are mostly leve items. Even those aren't selling as well as they used to, since a lot of people are already at 50. You might also want to shop around for what equipment is selling (leve or otherwise). When I find something that sells for decent, I usually make a couple, but not enough that I'd get stuck with it. Whenever you find an opportunity, the undercutters are never far behind.

Some of SE decision makes me wonder. Make housing cost millions but implement changes so that the most profitable items become worthless. That makes so much sense....

It would be nice if:

1. You could sell items to vendors for more than one gil.

2. Beastmen mobs dropped gil, or allagan gil bags

3. If Dungeon gil scaled according to level... It was a nice step in the right direction to add gil to dungeons, but getting 2k from a 45min (AK) dungeon is almost useless. 2k might have been nice when i was level 10, but at 50 thats barely enough to pay for the repairs and a teleport.

The reason over world mobs don't drop Gil is the static nature of spawns.

This game is a botters delight.

As for all 1 gil mats, see above. For a full 50 character, getting mats at 50 is identical to getting mats at 5. Run in a circle and mash insert.
A Botters dream come true.

1000 characters ...

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

The reason over world mobs don't drop Gil is the static nature of spawns.

This game is a botters delight.

As for all 1 gil mats, see above. For a full 50 character, getting mats at 50 is identical to getting mats at 5. Run in a circle and mash insert.
A Botters dream come true.

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Yeah this is a shame, crushed the value of gathered mats. If they had just kept the system from 1.0 or something similar where you actually couldn't just click-grab the exact item you want w/ near 100% accuracy there might actually still be some value. Oh, and of course making the purchase of any gear completely pointless didn't help.

Food and Pots are about the only place where you will see continual sales, i70 crafted accessories too I suppose. Now that food doesn't wear on death you will see more and more people willing to use it for content. Pots I expect will still be rather niche, other than ethers maybe, since a few second stat buff isn't enough to make most part with their gil.

Sadly, without a revamp of the gathering system, and making a change to what drops in dungeons (removing most, if not all of the gear, and having instead rare mat drops for crafting that gear) there isn't likely to ever be a bounce back for the markets. At least not until a level cap increase, assuming it doesn't take 2 hours to recap and start getting dungeon drops that are again better than anything crafted.

Aye, in my opinion Gathering to sell has significantly been crushed. This will definitely be for people who have zero desire to craft. Not because gathering is really all that profitable but because its really the only thing. Midgard I think (please correct me if i'm wrong) is one of the stronger servers having the most gil in the economy and even our economy has seriously tanked.

2star gear has dropped in price by almost a 1/3. You can buy most 2star for around 100k. All Philo mats are going for 5000 or less. Crafting mob kill mats like Fleece and Snurble's are down to 50-80. Even most PVP gear is around 5-9k each.

I honestly don't know where the niche is anymore. I used to make 100-200k a day selling random crating gear, 1s/2s gear now i'm lucky to make 50-60.

I'm sure others are still making a killing but it aint me lol.

There are still a few ways to farm gil.

The obvious methods have all been flooded at the current time though. The demand is not high enough for the flood so there is fierce competition for the few consumers.

Eventually housing will be a good place ot make money but as there are not very many people buying housing due to the pricing requiring your left nut, right leg and first/second born....not much of a demand for housing items.

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Originally Posted by Githiun

Eventually housing will be a good place ot make money but as there are not very many people buying housing due to the pricing requiring your left nut, right leg and first/second born....not much of a demand for housing items.

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There will never be a demand for housing items. Any FC that can afford a house will have crafters who can make everything themselves.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

The reason over world mobs don't drop Gil is the static nature of spawns.

This game is a botters delight.

As for all 1 gil mats, see above. For a full 50 character, getting mats at 50 is identical to getting mats at 5. Run in a circle and mash insert.
A Botters dream come true.

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Although I know this would make gil sellers happy, I think it will minimize gilsellers power because right now, most money is being tranfers between hands, not made. Most players would rather farm for gil than level a crafting class to make gil.The secret to being rich in this game is to know what to sell and keeping it a secret. At least more money could be made from the system it would be more based on how much time you put into it. Right now, you can put in alot of time and effort to make gil and still be broke. Sure my suggestion would cause inflation, but at least how rich you are would be determine to how much time you put into the game. I think less players would put there account at risk of being banned for gil buying if they had more options of making gil on their own.

And to prevent the problem of bots killing weak mobs for mats to sell to vendors, they could implement changes so that items are more vauleable based on the MOB levels they are dropped from.

I'm making 200-300k a day purely from crafting with 2.1 changes. Certain items have actually become more profitable.

You have to learn to adapt. You can't rely on old methods all the time.

Hi. I am trying to level up a Weaver, which is not exactly cheap beside in every quest i make stuffs that i need to place in the market whit not enough place for all of them. Before 2.1 (yes, i am agree with you) it was easy to sell now the adventurers are not spending their money.

By the way how did you solve your Inventory´s space problems? I know we can place some items in the Inn but it is only for event´s items and item LV 50 (I don´t need that because i am beginning to use them and it seems they are hard to "spirit bond" to 100%)

feel free to answer or contact me in game in Zeromus.

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Originally Posted by Odd

There will never be a demand for housing items. Any FC that can afford a house will have crafters who can make everything themselves.

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Because people are impatient, and some pieces require materials that can only be found in treasure hunts. Oh, and people are impatient. From my experience, there usually is profit in meeting the needs of impatient people.

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Oh, and people are impatient. From my experience, there usually is profit in meeting the needs of impatient people

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I've made over 300k doing this with almost no effort on my part. Impatient people, or people who simply have so much money they don't care, will buy an item for more than it's worth just that they don't have to spend the time searching for where to find it cheaper.

OP, you have a rather well geared WAR. You can do what I do and my WAR would faint at the sight of yours. Just get yourself full set of crafted Amber Accessories and run the main quest roulette over and over and over. Eventually you will get VIT4 Materia that at least still sells for over 100k on my server. I personally don't need money for much since my FC has a system for collecting money for housing that is very cheap per member but is also working really well. I probably do enough stuff on my WAR including the daily Main Quest and High Level ID roulette and then some extra ones to do about 2 sets of acc converts a day. I usually get 3 VIT4s a week. Not much but when you don't need money in this game at ALL it is more than enough. The VIT materia is also pure profit, the other Materia you get will cover the cost of the Acc. Other than doing this I have no idea how to make money .

O, also, I run Crystal Tower until I get a specific piece of gear that I want. Last week it took me 20 runs which got me a LOT of convert chances and yielded 2 VIT materias and a few Crit Hit ones. The CT also get your a lot of Tomes and even though HQ Tome crafted gear is down to around 50k on my server it is still 100% profit since I harvest up everything I need to make them.

For big money selling EX primals and maybe Coil Loot.
Everything else crashed. I made some quick gil in the first 24h from PvP gears then I totally quited the market because I knew they are trash (in value of gil, not in the term of utility) at the first moment when I see their mats cost. Then I begin to sell more 2 star gears because mats price dropped faster than the end product, the % of premion was better than the old days when each piece sold for 300k. But the undercutters catch up now, it's hard to make 100% return on the mats cost.
My friend still make 300k to 400k a day by just selling small stuffs and staying actively beside the retainer bell. I can't do this any more I grind more dungeons and work on my luminary tools.
Which surprised me is that tier 3 (not tier 4) materias' prices are still stable and the demond is high. I guess it's because of the cheap 2 star gears make people need them more. I do CT run for SB materias now.

Without the materias selling, I can still make around 500k a week by spending 40min everyday updating my retainer slots.

I've found my best profit coming from low and mid end craftables (usually crafted crafting materials) rather than high end stuff.

Makes it sort of frustrating though because the 40 item limit really hurts that sort of marketing (because the people who buy stuff like that are more inclined to buy 10 and 20 stacks than they are 99 stacks unless the 99 is severely undercut).

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Originally Posted by Bufkus

I'm making 200-300k a day purely from crafting with 2.1 changes. Certain items have actually become more profitable.

You have to learn to adapt. You can't rely on old methods all the time.

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Any way to private message me or something lol. We're on different servers. Teach me!