Scholar is still missing something!

I love my job as scholar but I often feel handicapped at times. Conj were given sleep and Aura As a whm that skill has saved me many times as a sch We have nothing to compare. We have a series of DoTs that won't stop an enemy or kill it quickly. When I played as arcn I had a pet that dealt a good deal of damage. Fairies can't hold their own in a fight because they don't fight back So a skill to stun, repel or even slow them down would greatly help our class esp since our cross class skills are so much weaker. Either access to the trait to those skills or a similar skill but designed for our class specifically would be great. We don't even get an upgrade for physick after becoming sch. A better general healing spell would be very helpful when we are under attack and have to stop healing to evade or fight to give a boost outside of lustrate. I believe something needs to be added. Do you?

Miasma is our slow. Rank 1 is ranged, and Rank 2 is an instant AoE around us. Plus most enemies can't keep up when you sprint. We can also now root enemies with Blizzard II.

Fairy might not be able to fight back, but it still allows us to focus on doing damage while still providing heals.

Adloquium is stronger than Physick if you're not overwriting the shield. If the spell crits then it prevents a ton of damage.

Unless its AoE damage, I can easily do more damage than White Mage. The loss of Thunder hurts, but they lost it too.

Miasma 2 and shadow flare apply heavy and slow. I would like a sleep spell though.

As for the boost to Physick, rouse on the fairy works really well instead.

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Originally Posted by Queenmidnyte

I love my job as scholar but I often feel handicapped at times. Conj were given sleep and Aura As a whm that skill has saved me many times as a sch We have nothing to compare. We have a series of DoTs that won't stop an enemy or kill it quickly. When I played as arcn I had a pet that dealt a good deal of damage. Fairies can't hold their own in a fight because they don't fight back So a skill to stun, repel or even slow them down would greatly help our class esp since our cross class skills are so much weaker. Either access to the trait to those skills or a similar skill but designed for our class specifically would be great. We don't even get an upgrade for physick after becoming sch. A better general healing spell would be very helpful when we are under attack and have to stop healing to evade or fight to give a boost outside of lustrate. I believe something needs to be added. Do you?

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Trade you our damage for all your actual healer stuff.

You all are right and I had forgotten about the heavy in miasma. It's in a macro with others and I rarely fight alone.The adloquium is really great but if you are down on hp you have to have the crit and it's not guaranteed also you still have to replenish those missing hp. Once cast you have to physick or lustrate to get those points up. And those shields work the best when the damages healed and shielded are less than what's still being done. The rouse does work and the healing would be best if eos is out. Selene can embrace but healing isn't her primary job. We are given two fairies and should be able to use them. Also I have had moments where my fairy and I both were under attack. It's rare and usually someone in the party has messed up but being able to recover from it is key to being a good healer I think. I simply think we could benefit from a stronger cure and a lasting buff that's all our own so it will be full strength and not the watered down versions protect and stoneskin.

Well, if it were me adding skills to this game (and because I am biased and love the FFXI Scholar), I would give us modified versions of Embrava and Kaustra.

They would have to be modified to fit this system (probably cost Aetherflow), but I always felt that the hybrid role of Scholar was best in FFXI.

Just my two cents. :)

I never played XI so maybe that's where my frustrations are coming from. Those spells do look very interesting. Maybe SQ wanted to create difference in that class between the games but lost something along the way.

My WHM never use sleep and Aura after reach 50...

Nothing is stopping you from being a WHM, seems like it would better suit you anyways....SCH's are amazing healers when played correctly, and you obviously don't know how to play them correctly because you are playing them like a whm.....

If you're in group content, then why do you have agro at all? Things have to be awful levels of tits up before you actually get agro--chances are your job is keeping the white mage up while rezzing tanks.

If you're solo, then you can tank very well for most mobs. Yesterday I was in the beastlands, grabbing three mobs at once, spreading dots and shadowflaring, and Eos was keeping me topped up the entire time, and killing things swift enough--that's if you don't want to switch over to summoner or arcanist to solo.

I think were missing gear... only a few things in endgame that work for us.

AoE Rotation: Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio -> Bane -> swiftcast -> Shadow Flare -> Blizzard 2 spam (stronger than Holy with 300+ DoT's, 90 Shadow flare and 150 from Blizz 2, can even get another DoT on with Miasma 2 if you have Fey glow and you buff party damage with hastes)

Single Target: Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio -> Energy Drain -> Aero -> Energy Drain -> Ruin -> Ruin 2 -> Energy Drain -> Ruin 2 -> Energy drain -> Ruin -> Ruin 2 -> Energy drain -> Ruin -> Ruin 2 -> Energy Drain (400 DoT + 400 Energy Drain + 400 Ruin 1 + 2 combined with Drain filling in the GCD gaps)

SCH DPS is rediculous if used correctly, People forget the 10% potency increase from cleric stance which make it's DoT's extremely Potent. It's all about sacrificing healing Aetherflows to using a well placed Adlo to perform colossal damage if you set it up right. Above and Beyond being a healer

As for CC, our slow from SF is exteremly helpful for mitigating damage when usable over Sacred soil too, we have a lot, be creative!

While it is true that SCH as far as a healing class can pump out a nice amount of Dots, I'm not sure I'd ever go this route unless my party isn't taking much dmg and I can commit all my aetherflows to dmg. I'll ocassionaly throw out some dots on bosses and the random slightly stronger trash mob but at the end of the day my priority is healing and I think given the kit we have we are quite good at it.

As far as the original poster being that our job is primarily focused on dmg mitigation already, having the ability to put things to sleep and slap a 1k shield would be a little OP imo. Also, like someone said earlier soloing as a SCH is pretty solid. You just slap on Cleric Stance and apply dots, energy drain, and slap out a shadow flare while your fairy spam heals you. It may not be as fast as smn but then again you're smn and sch will always be the same level so take your pick.

I play my sch fine. I always am asked to heal dungeons. Playing solo is fine I have no probs because I am fighting. I will allow the increase to lustrate is great and I time my aetherflows to be ready in case things have gone wrong. You can't really throw a shadow flare if you are chased by mobs. My whm is only level 43 I agree I don't really use sleep or aura these days but the skill is there in case things go wrong. But the poor whm have mana issues compard to the sch. I suppose it's all a trade off

I do not really feel like I am missing something, although Aura would have been nice to blast the occasional close mob into the distance.

To be fair though, I have much less aggro issues on my SCH. If anything Eos is the one to grab aggro first, but she actually holds up pretty well (I get the feeling I'm squishier than she is...)

Eos tanked Chimera in Cutter's Cry for me once when my team wiped and I was able to solo him. Eos can seriously take a hit. It also helps that most if not all of Chimera's dmg is AOE based and fairy's are naturally resistant.

SCH is only missing CC, however I think if we get a CC skill or can cross tri disaster we should lose miasma 2

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Originally Posted by Queenmidnyte

I play my sch fine. I always am asked to heal dungeons. Playing solo is fine I have no probs because I am fighting. I will allow the increase to lustrate is great and I time my aetherflows to be ready in case things have gone wrong. You can't really throw a shadow flare if you are chased by mobs. My whm is only level 43 I agree I don't really use sleep or aura these days but the skill is there in case things go wrong. But the poor whm have mana issues compard to the sch. I suppose it's all a trade off

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Under no circumstances should you have enmity against any monster in any dungeon with a minimally competent tank. It's mind-numbingly easy for healers to throw damage spells such as Shadow Flare and Bane because the tank should not require healing more frequently than every 15 seconds (or infinitely if you have a fairy).

The only situation where you might pull hate is on extremely large speed-run type pulls, where the tank Flash or Overpower often does not reach all the enemies, and you are forced to drop gigantic heals including back-to-back Lustrates. In this instance, the DPS could easily pull hate on a stray mob that is outside of the tank's AoE and within the DPS AoE ability. If you're having trouble holding back heals before a tank nears a hazardous level of HP but they still haven't solidified hate on the pack, then you have a problem with either an under-geared on inexperienced tank, or DPS that are targeting too far outside the tank's range, or are not standing close enough when they do grab hate.

If you're having this issue in progression or story dungeons on normal-sized groups (less than 4), then your tank has a critical misunderstanding of how to fill their role and someone needs to educate them (or you can leave and not carry them through like everyone else did before that for this obviously bad tank).

P.S. As Knoahl's post mentioned, Shadow Flare should usually be paired with Swiftcast following Bio or Bane and is therefore unaffected by attacks on you.

To original poster:
SCH has blizzard 2 now along with miasma for defensive spells. I hardly ever use my "escape" spells anymore since I tend to not pull aggro all that much. I'd just use your slows and binds to their max potential.

I have noticed that most struggles are with bad tanks or under geared members. I have had pals that lost hp after than wars. Was just in wp with one. He called for a whole stack of aetherflows plus eye for an eye as well as adloquium plus fairy heals and I still almost lost him a couple times. These are the times I wish we had a stronger heal. It's not something that always needs to be use but should be ther. Even as a whm I rarely use cure 2 unless things are bad or I have free cure. I haven't had to use cure 3 at all yet.

Nope, SCH does not need something like that :/.

As others said before:

You got Miasma (1/2) for slow aspect.
You got Blizzard 2 for a snaring aspect.
You got Adloq which is in my opinion superior to Cure 2.

Nuff said probably^^

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Originally Posted by YuiSasaki

Nope, SCH does not need something like that :/.

As others said before:

You got Miasma (1/2) for slow aspect.
You got Blizzard 2 for a snaring aspect.
You got Adloq which is in my opinion superior to Cure 2.

Nuff said probably^^

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I'd kill to have Adlo. Wanna trade? I whole heartedly believe that each class has been given it's fair share of avoidance methods. SE probably didn't give SCH the same abilities at WHM for a reason. Different mechanics call for different abilities is what it comes down to. Slows and binds go a long way if you know how to use them. If I pulled a group of mobs as SCH I would either adlo and physick myself till a tank helped or I'd just use Miasma and run to the tank then wait and cast Blizzard II once the mobs got close enough then I'd run away.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Trade you our damage for all your actual healer stuff.

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i giggled. a lot.