Irony in The Free Company Recruitment Contest

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With the release of patch 2.1 ushering in the long awaited free company housing, you can bet that free company membership activity will be on the rise in a big way!

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I wonder if SE is aware that there are more people breaking from their Free Companies to make their own small cliques to get their own houses than there are people recruiting for larger, community-oriented Free Companies.

For one, you don't need an FC at all in this game and, with the way endgame works, it actually discourages people from forming large guilds. And two, there is no personal housing and everyone wants their own house so that they can do what they want with it. So it leads people to form small 2-4 man FCs just so that they can have their own FC houses.

Sorry, I just found this contest kind of ironic. Normally I wouldn't complain about contests because I could care less about them and I know plenty of players enjoy them, but it just seems SE has no idea about what's really going on in their game =/

I haven't heard of anyone leaving their FC to form their own just to get themselves a house. Personal housing will be added later and those should be much less expensive, so what kind of sense would that make in the first place?

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Originally Posted by Taika

I haven't heard of anyone leaving their FC to form their own just to get themselves a house. Personal housing will be added later and those should be much less expensive, so what kind of sense would that make in the first place?

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Half a year later... who wants it won't wait that long.

If I put my mind on it, I'd probably have "my own" house by the end of this year.

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Originally Posted by permbanned

I wonder if SE is aware that there are more people breaking from their Free Companies to make their own small cliques to get their own houses than there are people recruiting for larger, community-oriented Free Companies.

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I'd be interested in the details on this clearly thoroughly vetted data you've acquired. What's your sample size and margin of error?

You need a certain Rank for the FC-Housing. So creating now a small FC to get you a housing won't probably work out.

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Originally Posted by Nero

You need a certain Rank for the FC-Housing. So creating now a small FC to get you a housing won't probably work out.

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Wrong 4 people can bring the FC RANK to 5 in 5 Days. Easially and withgout probnlem

8 People can make you Sworn to an GC of your choice in about 1 Week and 3 Days. 1 Person can do it if doen hardcore in just 2 Weeks.

So there is nor problem leveling your FC:

And yes we actually tested it.

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Originally Posted by permbanned

Sorry, I just found this contest kind of ironic. Normally I wouldn't complain about contests because I could care less about them and I know plenty of players enjoy them, but it just seems SE has no idea about what's really going on in their game =/

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Its only a blurb from a video making contest :D I think we're worrying a little too much about it. Even if it were meant to be something more serious and it was completely off...does it matter even a little bit? There are big free companies and small ones, does it impact anything if there is more of one than the other? I'm really looking forward to seeing the results of this contest! Wish I could make my own video.

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Originally Posted by Nura

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I think he means standing with the grand companies. Rank 5 is the easy part. Becoming allied with your grand company takes weeks, months even depending on size of FC. I have a feeling this is what some of the stuff will be based on.

I won't lie. I'm very tempted to create my own FC that exists of just me because I want housing that much. And I'm not looking forward to waiting 6 months for it. I even made a topic in the past to ask if FC could obtain multiple lands and houses. Simply to allow members to have their own little spot. But a dev reply clearly stated to 1 house only for each FC (For the release of housing! Might and most likely will change later but how long that will take...)

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Originally Posted by Nura

Wrong 4 people can bring the FC RANK to 5 in 5 Days. Easially and withgout probnlem

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So which exact part is wrong again? I said you need a certain Rank, which you said yourself, so what is wrong? That it probably won't work out? Not everyone is playing at the same pace and just that you can get a FC-Rank to 5 within 5 days, does not mean everyone can/wants to or will do it.

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Originally Posted by Nero

You need a certain Rank for the FC-Housing. So creating now a small FC to get you a housing won't probably work out.

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Yeah with 3 people it took a whole week to max rank the FC without even trying so I seriously doubt that would be much of a roadblock.

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I think he means standing with the grand companies. Rank 5 is the easy part. Becoming allied with your grand company takes weeks, months even depending on size of FC. I have a feeling this is what some of the stuff will be based on.

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Yeah I think that took about an additional week even though I seriously doubt that the reputation will have anything to do with housing.

its strange, Yoshi forbid FC players to play together in the only 24 man raid and on the other side they do this kind of contest...

Before doing something like that, they should stop trying to kill the FC in this game, we would be happy enough with that!

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Originally Posted by Minigae

Yeah with 3 people it took a whole week to max rank the FC without even trying so I seriously doubt that would be much of a roadblock.



Yeah I think that took about an additional week even though I seriously doubt that the reputation will have anything to do with housing.

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I could see GC rep being tied to which city you can buy a FC House in.

I also don't understand the people making a FC for their Coil or such statics, seems like an LS would be a far better choice.

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Originally Posted by Pandastirfry

I could see GC rep being tied to which city you can buy a FC House in.

I also don't understand the people making a FC for their Coil or such statics, seems like an LS would be a far better choice.

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All a FC for raiding does is screws yourself out of inventory space. Since that is the ONLY useful perk in a FC. In fact when I want to go out and grind choco xp I can pick up the 5 percent xp perk and go in a endgame FC I would NEVER see that perk. And linkshells have always been a better system until they started adding useful perks to "guilds" problem is SE gave us no such perks. After 2.1 the extended consumables will be decent since the buff lasts through death but its hardly enough reason to lose 150 inventory slots.

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Originally Posted by Alkel

its strange, Yoshi forbid FC players to play together in the only 24 man raid and on the other side they do this kind of contest...

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I think the real reason why we can't enter CT with a full alliance, is that we can't form an alliance outside of the raid... Yet. They are probably still working on the party system to allow players to form alliances via the linkshell, fc, social and search features. Once that's done, they could implement the support for queuing up alliances in the duty finder.

I just think that they did not have enough time to implement this in conjunction with CT for the 2.1 patch and couldn't have the players wait till 2.2 (or even 2.3) before releasing all of it in 1 patch. I mean, let's be honest, the game is in dire need of more content. We all know that. So, I see this as a 2-step implementation in which releasing the content (CT) had the highest priority.

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Originally Posted by Taika

I haven't heard of anyone leaving their FC to form their own just to get themselves a house. Personal housing will be added later and those should be much less expensive, so what kind of sense would that make in the first place?

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left mine to make my own FC. i dont have the patience to wait until summer for my own house. solo leveling a FC is tedious so im enlisting an alt to help out. as long as the requirement isnt something like guild rank 10 ill be ready withing a week or 2.

I left a decent size FC to make my own just for housing. Don't need a FC when LS's can do the same thing. I get to pick what actions I want and have more storage without the need to worry if someone is going to steal my stuff.

The weirdest part about the video contest isn't this silly FC-housing nonsense; it's that Squeenix's Material's Usage License is extremely unfriendly to video-makers.

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I've never seen an MMO with such restrictive regulations regarding creative works. I mean, what the hell, Squee?

I agree.. what is the USE of a FC if all or MOST content is 4 and 8 man groups

Well, even if we did not hear much about it lately, there will be also FC-exclusive Content; To name one there will be FC Summons. Would be actually nice to have an update regarding that from SE.

The game just launched so I don't think SE is purposely discouraging being in a Free Company. Seems to me like they are still in the "testing the water" phase and trying to give ARR an identity. That and releasing content that should have already been out >_>

They already said we will be able to queue with 24 people via alliance in the future. CT is the first alliance content in ARR and I'm sure we'll get even more down the road. What they NEED to do is grant a bonus for having a party consisting of FC members. That would certainly encourage larger FCs. And of course, the bonus will be a buff called "United We Stand".

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Originally Posted by Taika

I haven't heard of anyone leaving their FC to form their own just to get themselves a house. Personal housing will be added later and those should be much less expensive, so what kind of sense would that make in the first place?

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Originally Posted by joshsecret

left mine to make my own FC. i dont have the patience to wait until summer for my own house.

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Left mine too, but now this is new about the whole rank thing.
Lmao...because no one wants to wait half a year for their own house...
They honestly shoulda just put P. housing before FC. Oh well...

I can imagine the drama now, someone leaves a FC just for their own housing, then Yoshi allows entering CT and any other 24 man content inside FC (forming an alliance outside of the instance) said person tries to return to the FC, please WHEN this happens post your drama, I want a good laugh.

I'll wait for personal housing. FC housing isn't worth the effort, because of a variety of factors:

drama, cliques, egos, and more.

Why waste millions of Gil on a "potential" breakup? I would rather invest that into something I know isn't going away. I have seen quite a few people making small FCs for their own housing.

Don't worry though i'll sell you all the materials at a high price and reap the benefits!

Even though we don't know yet how much a housing spot cost. I am sure I would not be able to get that kind of money..nor would I want to. I like playing with my FC.

I wouldn't be surprised either if the right to buy a house is rank 6 entitlement. So people that are leaving and forming their own FC to buy a personal house may find themselves in a situation where their own personal FC isn't leveled high enough to get a house.

I may leave mine cause people in my free company are either 1) excited about but don't contribute or 2) give two shits about it. If I have to do everything for housing why not start my own free company?

1. Own housing
2. Can use any buff you want
3. EXTRA STORAGE SPACE!! (Having all crafts I run out of space alot)
4. Linkshells for endgame and chat
5. You make all the decisions.

Idk afterclisting that a may just do it. A few weeks is wwaaayy shorter than 6 months. Hell who knows they may drop personal housing in those months.
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Originally Posted by Arriverderci

Left mine too, but now this is new about the whole rank thing.
Lmao...because no one wants to wait half a year for their own house...
They honestly shoulda just put P. housing before FC. Oh well...

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Its pretty obvious that they did free company housing first to test the system out. There are lot less FCs than individual players, so they can see how it stresses the system and work out any remaining bugs. If housing goes well with FC, it won't be long before we see it for individuals.
As for waiting half a year, I waited for years for housing in WoW and they're only just now introducing it in their next expansion (by which point I've completely stopped caring about it). Half a year is nothing.

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Originally Posted by permbanned

-snip- it just seems SE has no idea about what's really going on in their game =/

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Or perhaps there is much more to Free Companies that has yet to be implemented. Perhaps it is you/us that "has no idea whats really going on with their game." So far this team has been nothing if not long term oriented and from what has been revealed over the course of the last 3+ years about what is planned, we are just scratching the surface of this game, it is still but a skeleton of the game they are developing.

I could be wrong though, maybe what we have now IS all we will ever have and nothing will added to over the life of the game.

Am I the only one who sees the FC as something for just you and your closest friends? Then use LSs for end game raiding groups and other groups of friends you occasionally spend time with? I feel the majority of the player base got these backwards. Or I just feel it's more practical to swap their intended use?

My friend and I left our FC to start our own for this exact reason, and for the bank space. This was a poor design decision; I cannot sugar coat it. I doubt we will make it long enough to see the personal housing, honestly, whenever that comes out. /bizarre Japanese game design (haven't figured out if it's alien sensibilities or unchecked auteur game directors and poorly-vetted "visions")