Why doesnt each class get their own limit break effect?

Each class/job should get their own limit break effect instead of the generic ones.

(These are just random on the moment ideas...Sitting at work bored lol...Im sure I could or someone else could come up with better)

Monks/Pugs for example break out into a flurry of punches/kicks/and spinning around and so on.

Dragoons/Lancers do their crazy acrobatic assaults with a flurry of stabs.

Archers/Bards get their own ranged limit. A storm of arrows for single target or AOE.

Black Mages SUmmon something huge to blow stuff up (Bigger then what they normally do lol)

Summoners summon a primal to attack or something to that effect.

Healers get their own flashy heal limit breaks like Aeris had in final fantasy 7...Great Gospel I think I forgot the name been years since I played that.

Arcansit get a mass DoT attack or something.

Warriors get some sort of attack/defence builder.

Palidans get a defence boost and heal or something.

Just a collection of ideas Im sure people could think of better....but anything is better then the generic limit breaks that we already have.

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Originally Posted by Jibs

Each class/job should get their own limit break effect instead of the generic ones.
Archers/Bards get their own ranged limit. A storm of arrows for single target or AOE.

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Needs Moar Singing.. Its a Bard

Such work. Very stress. Much no. Wow.

It would take away time from designing other things. It certainly would be nice to see different limit breaks based on class but it's probably not a high priority for them at the moment. Maybe in the future we will see something.

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No really, people need to start use the Search-function. There are dozens of Threads about this Topic. Beside that, Dev's have responded to it as well and why it is the way it is.

Too Stressful. Also Yoshi said no already.

Effects can be the same but they need different execution. like current monk's LB swinging big sword around is just stupid, they need to punch them to the ground.

Lazyness

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PS3 limitations.

Something needs to be done in my opinion. Because if the duty finder sticks you with two bards then you're going to be screwed on some fights. The normal primals come to mind. The single target limit break can be a run saver when it comes to taking down the nail and heart.

Lazy.

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Originally Posted by Jibs

Summoners summon a primal to attack or something to that effect.

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Oh, that's what this game is missing.

So you're in combat right and the gauge just filled up.

You ask your summoner to LB.

Click.

As soon as the summoner clicks his LB, the BGM changes to the most high pitched J-rock you ever heard, then the view zooms out for everyone in the party, all the way to show the planet we're on. At this point there's a voice-over shouting "HYAAAH!" while 5 burning suns merge in a HUGE explosion that forms a gigantic robot dragon with blue thruster rockets. The dragon stretches and screams, then transforms its head into a Gundam style laser cannon that charges up and fires at the LB target. The beam is wider than the planet and fires off missiles that circle the main laser. When the beam hits, the impact zone becomes an anti matter globe that inverts and tears the entire universe apart. Finally there's a sequence of mysterious laser grids on screen for a few minutes.

The LB deals 1300 damage and combat resumes.

Rushed game.

Ever since the the first time I used Braver as a Monk, I've considered this topic myself. The current system is probably a result of: A) quick planning B) SE simply providing a BETA previewing the mechanic to see how the community would respond.

While the developers have greater concerns at the moment, it's important that you brought attention to the subject for future consideration.

(05.07.2013) Interview with Naoki Yoshida at the Japan Expo, Paris

Source: http://rainyautumnskies.wordpress.co...an-expo-paris/

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Chuki (JOL): About the Limit Break system, the thing is that players are a bit disappointed with it, some players are selfish and just press the button whenever it’s available and they’d rather have some individual Limit Break AND a group Limit Break they can use in very important situations, that would make things fairer for everyone.

Naoki Yoshida: Actually I have no intention to introduce individual Limit Break because that’s no different from another Weapon Skill apart from flashier effects; I don’t think there’s a problem for people to press the Limit Break button up to Lv50. We specially designed it so you can just go ahead and press it, it doesn’t have to be necessary to use Limit Breaks. However, in the more difficult battles you will have to consider when to use them, which one to use, which level, which action, that’s going to come up when we introduce the endgame content. From Lv50 onwards, we’ll have to make sure you use them at the right time, but before Lv50 just try your own Limit Break and see what kind of effect it has.

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Sadly they don't want to do it. It would bring a little change at least and some uniqueness to jobs if we saw at least different animations.

Class balance is bad enough as it is...
I'd rather they stay like they are.

Also, Meteor is cool.

I think they are gonna have to change them eventually...

I mean think about it, when we do finally get musketeer...what is it gonna do? It will be a true ranged DD (hopefully) so giving it healer LB will be dumb since we already have a ranged with that one. It can't do the melee LB cuz its ranged...so they'd have to add a new one.

I think the one reason that there aren't unique LB's is so that people don't end up bringing a class exclusively for that LB, which I believe Yoshi said was against his agenda for the game when it comes to partying and accessibility.

Though, I don't see why they aren't aesthetically different, other than it would take time away from other things, but at the end of the day, it's no biggy.

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Originally Posted by Mistoltin

I think the one reason that there aren't unique LB's is so that people don't end up bringing a class exclusively for that LB, which I believe Yoshi said was against his agenda for the game when it comes to partying and accessibility.

Though, I don't see why they aren't aesthetically different, other than it would take time away from other things, but at the end of the day, it's no biggy.

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You mean like how people want a Melee LB for single boss mobs and BLM/SMN for Ifrit Nails? I'd say that's bringing/wanting certain classes for certain situations. I'd much rather them put development time into "fixing" Limit Breaks than adding more minions and more mounts.

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Originally Posted by Roris

Rushed game.

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Ya think? Everyone knows this game was created in 1/3 the time of normal MMOs.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

PS3 limitations.

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Wrong. They managed it just fine on the PS2 with XI which is even more limited than the PS3.

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Originally Posted by Errors

(05.07.2013) Interview with Naoki Yoshida at the Japan Expo, Paris

Source: http://rainyautumnskies.wordpress.co...an-expo-paris/

Chuki (JOL): About the Limit Break system, the thing is that players are a bit disappointed with it, some players are selfish and just press the button whenever it’s available and they’d rather have some individual Limit Break AND a group Limit Break they can use in very important situations, that would make things fairer for everyone.

Naoki Yoshida: Actually I have no intention to introduce individual Limit Break because that’s no different from another Weapon Skill apart from flashier effects;I don’t think there’s a problem for people to press the Limit Break button up to Lv50. We specially designed it so you can just go ahead and press it, it doesn’t have to be necessary to use Limit Breaks. However, in the more difficult battles you will have to consider when to use them, which one to use, which level, which action, that’s going to come up when we introduce the endgame content. From Lv50 onwards, we’ll have to make sure you use them at the right time, but before Lv50 just try your own Limit Break and see what kind of effect it has.

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I read Yoshida's response as: I am to lazy to make a system. I will do a half ass job and the players will accept it. It won't make sense, but it is Final Fantasy so suck it.

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Originally Posted by Errors

(05.07.2013) Interview with Naoki Yoshida at the Japan Expo, Paris

Source: http://rainyautumnskies.wordpress.co...an-expo-paris/

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You are answering the wrong question. They are not actually asking for an individual limit break, they are asking for a different animation for when each class hits there 1 LB button. Which I 100% agree with.

Having multiple classes using the same animation is more than ridiculous, it just doesn't make sense. They were too rushed to get out the door that they didn't have time to worry about it.

It is something they can easily do, actually, since they just need to keep the same damage, just change the actual animation so that each class looks like it fits... instead of monks using swords, for example. A simple animation change when a monk hits the LB is something that should and needs to be done. Monks don't use swords ;)

They should. They could. But they won't. Because reasons.

It would make the jobs feel more unique. Hell, they don't even have to change the damage on them or attack radius/healing radius...just the animations. A DRG using Final Heaven looks silly to me. A MNK using 'Omnislash' animation looks dumb. And a SMN using meteor without any sort of egi/primal tied to it is more than a bit ridiculous. It's a quality of life issue than actually game-breaking, but hopefully eventually they'll find the time.

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Originally Posted by Rhas

You are answering the wrong question. They are not actually asking for an individual limit break, they are asking for a different animation for when each class hits there 1 LB button. Which I 100% agree with.

Having multiple classes using the same animation is more than ridiculous, it just doesn't make sense. They were too rushed to get out the door that they didn't have time to worry about it.

It is something they can easily do, actually, since they just need to keep the same damage, just change the actual animation so that each class looks like it fits... instead of monks using swords, for example. A simple animation change when a monk hits the LB is something that should and needs to be done. Monks don't use swords ;)

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They could always bring back 1.0 Pugilist's Simian Thrash (possibly spice it up a bit) and use that for LB. Hell, most of the work is already done.

As a BLM I hate how SMNs get meteor. Can't they get like a fat chocobo that's identical in power as meteor?

It would be nice if the tank LB was actually useful to the point that using it is recommended for a fight. Maybe with one of the Extreme Primals. I can only hope. :p

They need to make tank LB more useful, I've never seen it used for anything serious to help win a fight.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

They need to make tank LB more useful, I've never seen it used for anything serious to help win a fight.

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This. ^
We tested trying to use the tank limit break in Ifrit instead of using the caster limit break.

Completely useless.

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Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher

As a BLM I hate how SMNs get meteor. Can't they get like a fat chocobo that's identical in power as meteor?

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I actually want it to rain tons of dead lalafell from the sky making mobs die from a guilt trip....

Warrior - War Cry - Boosts all damage and healing by 100% 25s
Paladin - Last Defense - Boosts Damage Mitigation by 70% 20s
Bard - Final Song - Spell Speed/ Skill Speed/ Crit Chance boost, Infinite TP and MP 15s
Scholar - Phoenix - Raise/heal all teamates to full HP/TP/MP + 20% HP shield
Summoner - Eden - Massive AoE (slightly weaker than Meteor) with DoT
Black Mage - Meteor - Same as is
Monk - Final Heaven - Same as is
Dragoon - Leap of Faith - Invincible during Jump but dealing less potency than Final Heaven
White Mage - Pulse of Life - Raise/heal all party members to 100% HP w/ Regen II 30s

Our Level 3 LB is just a gigantic wall to enhance defenses of the entire team. Does not help at all.

SE is boring and Lazy thats why...

Shared limit animation, limited job ability list and boring gear stats is because the game was rushed out before it was finished.

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Originally Posted by Linadae

Something needs to be done in my opinion. Because if the duty finder sticks you with two bards then you're going to be screwed on some fights. The normal primals come to mind. The single target limit break can be a run saver when it comes to taking down the nail and heart.

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Actually, the tank's limit break will get you through those instant-death kill move situations, so that's redundant, even if your party's dps are all bards.

I have said that also . Why do we have the same LB as other classes ? I mean it not hard to have made different ones. Each class has different weapon skills . And each skill is just as flashy as a LB . What SHOULD have been

PLD keeps the wall that's fine
WAR gets a mega battle ax or massive swings like an ax storm
BRD gets like a holy arrow or a light arrow shoots it in the sky and a beam of light rains down the lights made up by lots of arrows
MNK simple 100 fists like there 11 2 hour ability
DRG gets a fallen dragon that it calls forth to cast a holy type attack
SMN gets the original Primal to do one random special move the primal is based on what egi it has out no egi Carby is called( plums , mountain buster , tornado . ext )
BLm keeps meteor
WHM gets instant raise and heal like it has
SCH gets a mass DoT

Would be nice ....... But will never happen

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Originally Posted by Jibs

Each class/job should get their own limit break effect instead of the generic ones.

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Nope, anything that helps generate the 'needed job' mentality that infects FFXI has no place here.

I, personally, prefer the system we have now for LB. Apart from animations, the only change I would make would be a support LB. Single Target, AOE, Defense, Healing, and Support (Haste or attack up, for example). Bard would fall under that category, as well as any new jobs they introduce that is considered a supporting roll.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

SE is boring and Lazy thats why...

Shared limit animation, limited job ability list and boring gear stats is because the game was rushed out before it was finished.

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Not SE, the direction for ARR. There would be no problems if it was added to XI lol - For example, Yoshida says it's a "No no" if DRGs are invincible during jump, wasn't a problem in XI.

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Originally Posted by KraggyKor

Nope, anything that helps generate the 'needed job' mentality that infects FFXI has no place here.

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It's confirmed: Kraggy doesn't actually play FFXIV. You do realize this game has a "need x" mentality already, right?

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

It's confirmed: Kraggy doesn't actually play FFXIV. You do realize this game has a "need x" mentality already, right?

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then why support to make the matters worst ?