Paladins want a dmg Aura

I was thinking instead of flash and circle or scorn can you give paladins a dmg aura that increases enimity. Tanking dungeons gets boring real quick when people are using aoe's to get the mobs down you hardly get to use your damage chains because your spamming flash which does no dmg and is on global cooldown. Flash is boring , a dmg aura would allow tanking groups of mobs easier and allow to actually get in the fight more.

Please don't include all paladins in your statement.

Also, instead of saying "dmg aura" at at the very least spell out damage aura , but preferably spell out what you are requesting as well. A damage aura can mean a number of things, because if you wanna just increase enmity, paladins have that with shield oath. If you want a passive damage aura that matches flash in threat, well, that's gonna be overpowered since you could just afk and hold threat.

BTW, who cares if it deals damage or not, it keeps mobs on you. I really don't understand how spamming flash is any different than spamming some other ability that's gonna do sub-par damage since you are a tank, flash just doesn't mess around and generates straight threat.

Thank you Troll, everyone who plays MMO's knows what dmg stands for and they know what a dmg aura is. If i wanted a leason on how to write a good forum post i would of googled it, and all the paladins I know or have talked to do not like flash, its boring and its on global cooldown. Shield Oath doesnt help with enimity unless you are hitting the mob. Everyone wants to do some damage, paladin dmg might be 1/2 of what the dps are doing but at least your helping.

Nothing to see here... please ignore this thread...

A shining example of what's wrong with the mmo community.

get out. please. learn how to play the class before you decide to make suggestions on how to fix it up.

Lol

/10char

"Dear SE, please give Pld a button that will tank for them."

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...eG7hVKiVbUT_wA

I suggest...

"Please Touch Me Right in All Ways Aura"

Generates 5000 Enmity per second at a 20 yards range, pacifies all target that manhandle you, silences any casters who QQ spells on you. Cannot be toggled off until subscription ends effect persist through log-out and class change.

Buff description : Skill play and Bad play values are swapped increases Offending QQness by 20% and reduce brain function by 200%.

Lazy tank.

So, a "One-Button Smack All" type of thing?

Wait, let me check the game's difficulty settings... oh wait, THERE ISN'T ONE!

Now go somewhere far far away please.

Only aura that would be reasonable to have is something like Retribution aura from WoW, does lol damage but gives some extra dps/enmity on big pulls or Cleave like cone attack that hits 3 targets for low/medium damage or something like that. Having a passive enmity aura would just make PLD tanking even more nobrainer than it currently is.

Play a warrior if you want to be a tank who can deal damage?

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Originally Posted by War-Lord

Thank you Troll, everyone who plays MMO's knows what dmg stands for and they know what a dmg aura is.

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I don't know what a dmg aura is, and no, I'm not trolling.

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Originally Posted by Odd

I don't know what a dmg aura is, and no, I'm not trolling.

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I think he is suggesting a skill that literally allows him to just stand there and auto tank mobs, pressing buttons isn't all it's hyped up to be.

Me thinks this guy was playing Prot Pally, WoW reference, back in the day when you could literally drop one spell similar to Circle of Scorn except it did damage over like 15s and was essentially "auto aggro".

You mean Consecration which had a 1 minute cooldown back in the REAL olds days... Was a talent and is practically useless until Burning Crusade. =P Cause who brings a Paladin Tank back those days, they are just there to provide Aura, Seal judge... wait that wasn't changed yet... Oh yeah... They were Aura bots and OOC Ress bots.

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

You mean Consecration which had a 1 minute cooldown back in the REAL olds days... Was a talent and is practically useless until Burning Crusade. =P Cause who brings a Paladin Tank back those days, they are just there to provide Aura, Seal judge... wait that wasn't changed yet... Oh yeah... They were Aura bots and OOC Ress bots.

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I thought they used to just be walking Reckoning bombs.

I'm a Paladin and I want NO dmg/damage aura at all!

What I as Paladin want is to have some of my abilities off of global cooldown like Shield Swipe and a rework of abilities like Tempered Will.

That only worked for outdoor bosses. And got hot fix the next day after the video was posted. This is why when you give slightly nice things to theorycrafters they fling poop back at devs. Of all the theorycrafters in WoW Paladin and Shamans had the best Theorycrafting community. Hence why we keep getting nerfed again and again. Only expansion Shaman Community didn't screw with Blizzard was probably Mist of Pandaria cause there was nothing more to exploit to generalization of classes and mechanics.

But with Warlord of Draenor incoming and new secondary stats. Blizzard is asking for it again.

I think the only thing I can really agree with here is that spamming Flash for enmity is kind of a boring mechanic since the debuff DRs out fast and the spell doesn't do anything else except create threat.

That's not a critical design issue though and some crappy thorns or consecrate like skill certainly isn't the way to make things more interesting.

I am paladin i love being paladin and the skill we now. Since we're all talking about it I have an idea. If people don't like Damage Aura why not an support Aura for example in Diablo 2 Paladin have a Support Offensive like Fanaticism Increases Attack Speed. Since we're playing Final Fantasy Faster Auto Attacking or Faster Spell/Skill speed by 2 or 5% make it balance.(Edited) Also the Aura be for the Party whoever near the Paladin. (Edited)

Flash is boring as hell. Aside from just holding mobs in place, it contributes nothing to the party's progress. I wouldn't be opposed to something akin to what paladins in XI have, in Reprisal, tailored for XIV

I'd be ok with the cd on CoS being shorter and flash mp cost going up. CoS being the primary source of sustained aoe would be better in my book. Let flash be just for snap threat and debuffs

Paladin wanting a move to generate enmity and deal damage? Bit similar to overpower no? If so play WAR don't ask for homogeneity.
If you want it off GCD then its just press button make coffee come back go to next mob group. Finally with Flash and Riot blade you have in theory an infinite amount of enmity generation especially in SP situations. Warriors have no way to regen TP without a good bard. Basically stop asking for "Ezy mode."

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Originally Posted by Nathan061111

stop asking for "Ezy mode."

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Too late. Already got it.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Too late. Already got it.

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You heard it here folks.
Being a more effective tank = easy mode.
Inferiority is where its at!
YEAH!

Easy Mode - Paladin
Normal Mode - Warrior
Hard Mode - any non-tank

So when Warrior can actually be useful as a main tank...will it become easy mode? We need a new hard mode.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

Easy Mode - Paladin
Normal Mode - Warrior
Hard Mode - any non-tank

So when Warrior can actually be useful as a main tank...will it become easy mode? We need a new hard mode.

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New hard mode: No tank abilities. That will teach SE to buff us!

Is this the new pick on Paikis thing? I just left forums to take my JLPT test so whats the new game? BTW someone already did WHM HM Titan tank. Medica 2 Overheal threat FTW...

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Originally Posted by dark494

Flash is boring as hell. Aside from just holding mobs in place, it contributes nothing to the party's progress. I wouldn't be opposed to something akin to what paladins in XI have, in Reprisal, tailored for XIV

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Slightly more enemy-based than the patched Vengeance would be (auto-attack back and 30% damage taken reduction, 20s, 120s rc). I wouldn't mind it, but, I don't see it as being very useful either. Or all that PLD-like. We're smooth, we're fast, we're reliable. But we are purely tanks.

Flash and the occasional Riot Blade combo is pretty dull, but it's also why PLDs can be sprint-tanks, which is kind of fun. They have no use for TP in AoEs until mana is nearly depleted. And it's certainly no more dull than OP spam. Your AoE does no damage, but at least you're taking 5% less mana to heal. (Granted, Bloodbath makes up for that and more with AoE spam self-heal returns, but the buff is only up a third of the time.)

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Originally Posted by Makarrov

I'd be ok with the cd on CoS being shorter and flash mp cost going up. CoS being the primary source of sustained aoe would be better in my book. Let flash be just for snap threat and debuffs.

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Why would switching the positions of CoS and Flash make PLD be any more interesting? You'd have more free threat (neither mana nor TP cost), but that just sounds like a buff, not a real gameplay change. As a PLD, I do not want my CoS up at all times. I like occasionally waiting to pick up the extra add, and knowing that my DoTs are not infinite in uptime.

Increasing the mana cost on Flash would remove your ability to keep hate off BLMs around a half-minute into the pull. With Ballad you can use flash every other ability while rotating Riot combo. With that change, you'd be applying threat maybe every other Riot combo, every fifth ability, just to make CoS 10 seconds more frequent (to match its DoT time). Your combo would then be a strict FB-Riot-FB-Riot-Flash-SC <repeat>. Can't really call that very fun either.

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

Is this the new pick on Paikis thing? I just left forums to take my JLPT test so whats the new game? BTW someone already did WHM HM Titan tank. Medica 2 Overheal threat FTW...

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Leiron is my #1 fan. Every post I make is quickly followed by him posting about how wrong I am. It's nice having a stalker I guess.

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

Is this the new pick on Paikis thing?

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Nope.
I give pretty much everyone the same treatment.
It just happens that Paikis tends to say many stupid things when it comes to comparing Warriors to Paladins.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Leiron is my #1 fan. Every post I make is quickly followed by him posting about how wrong I am. It's nice having a stalker I guess.

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Nope, because I agreed with you regarding Inner beast usage vs Wrath stack usage.
You'll get criticism for saying stupid things just like anyone else.

Just listen to Kitru because he proves with his own character and math to back up his claims. Which tends to directly conflict with Paikis, Maqaqa and any pro-Warrior player.

And here is Leiron best friend, the THM stuck on the tank's forum; we didnt have to wait much, did we?

Give me a week to level my Paladin to 50 then I can fully tell you how to play tank.

Get to turn 5 on a WAR if you want to teach me how to play tank.
Possibly before 2.1.

Kthxbye.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

Get to turn 5 on a WAR if you want to teach me how to play tank.
Possibly before 2.1.

Kthxbye.

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That's hardly necessary. It'll likely consist of this;

"Hit 50 PLD, so much easier to stay alive. Warrior has better attack animations but that means nothing if you're dead."

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

Leiron you spit so much shit on this forum its not even funny anymore.

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No.
I simply disagree with you on your point of view.
Rather than simply accept it as a differing view, you choose the immature path and choose to insult because you cannot properly articulate your anger or realize that anger is pointless.
People will disagree with you even if they understand you.
I am sorry you've not lived long enough to understand this yet.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

As i already said you talk about fights you dont fight, gear you dont wear, and stuff you dont know.

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Haha, if you believe I don't know the fights then that's on you Maqaqa.
Its just more of the self important nonsense the "pro-Warriors" have begun to do.
Not sure why, but I guess when you're used to being a whipping boy you feel the need to attack.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

You might not like Paikis

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I like him actually.
He just says stupid things.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

but - unlike you - he clearly achieved a lot with his WAR, and his advices are worth more than a grain of salt.

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You mean his advice, and you mean worth his salt.
If I disagree with him I disagree.
The only reason you like him is because he agrees with you, not because of how well he articulates his arguments.
That is the difference between you and me.
I like people for how they do things, and not for what they do.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

Now go and report me, before someone realizes i am just saying the truth.

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Your truth is subjective.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

edit. its obvious to everyone that you are just stalking Paikis

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I guess I must have stalking problems because I stalk everyone.


Exstal don't waste your breath on Maqaqa. She and Paikis have a habit of being stuck in their own world.

I like the arguments. It passes the time while I mindlessly soul bind or if I'm looking at how cool the Warrior visor is when you open and close it.

I like Warrior, they are good looking class but they can't take a hit to save their lives. So I make healers lives hard when I queue for primals and am full STR. 5500 HP with Defiance..too good

edit: Storm's Eye is my most favourite animation :)

That happens waaaay too often for comfort.
I walked made e error of using Duty finder for Garuda.
I was the first Warrior tank with 7k+ hp, the other tank had 5.2k hp in defiance.

I wept.