So I just wanna check with you here on this forum, if I heard right about the extreme mode primals...
As I understood, you will be able to start doing them (at least the first one) when you have full DL and Relic weapon (not necessary +1). Did I get that right ?
And I heard them saying that they drop ilvl 90 weapons, was the even the easiest one ?
What I'm getting at, is that maybe I shouldn't waste 900 myth tomes on relic +1 weapon when I can get those weapons, and spend the myth tomes on better armor...
Extreme mode primals ilvl 90 weapons
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11-28-2013, 11:43 PMCraigerExtreme mode primals ilvl 90 weapons
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11-28-2013, 11:50 PMGenjisamurai
I am very pissed at this because I could have spent my myth tomes on af+1...
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11-28-2013, 11:50 PMyukikaze_yanagi
even if the iLvl is 90, don't mean they are powerful as relic +1. If you want to be sure, keep the points for now
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11-28-2013, 11:54 PMAllyrionHe said you'd get a relic after beating all three. My impression is that it's a quest chain reward, though it hasn't been confirmed how it would be implemented or if they drop ilvl 90 gear individually as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
All we know for sure is that you get a 90 weapon from beating all three. Even that is a little vague and up for misinterpretation.
Which can also be replaced in coil...Quote:
Originally Posted by Genjisamurai
EDIT: Well, not replaced (that depends on your Job's BiS) per se but you can get the same level gear just like the weapon. Nothing bought with myth is higher item level than what you can get in Coil.
You can get a 90 weapon from Extreme Primals, you can get 90 chest from Coil. -
11-28-2013, 11:56 PMSapphic
If you read up on it, you will see that you need to kill all 3 EM primals to receive the weapon reward.
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11-28-2013, 11:57 PMTaerra
if it's anything like the current primal fights, you're better off spending 900 mythos than praying for a PUG to suceed AND get your drop AND win the lot (if you compete )
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11-28-2013, 11:59 PMViktionTo my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) but they do NOT drop weapons. However you need to kill all THREE primals on extreme mode to get the il90 weapon as a item REWARD (from a quest I assume).Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
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11-29-2013, 12:04 AMEphierThat is what I interpreted as well. Yoshi said they drop something else but he was not telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viktion
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11-29-2013, 12:06 AMNyneAlexander
honestly, if you are pissed that new content is replacing something that you worked towards in old content, then why are you playing MMO's?
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11-29-2013, 12:08 AMashikenshin+1Quote:
Originally Posted by NyneAlexander
also coil weapons will be ilvl95, so try to get one. -
11-29-2013, 12:09 AMArkista
Better start saving your gil now 20mil for EX Titan!
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11-29-2013, 12:16 AMSylveJust my opinion, but I'd like them to drop Primal Themed Armor. Doesnt even have to be amazing gear, be awesome just for vanity when we get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ephier
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11-29-2013, 12:27 AMashikenshin
ifrit armor that kinda looks like the rathalos set from monster hunter? OH yes please!~
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11-29-2013, 12:29 AMEphierWe praying to the same upper echelon. orz Vanity armor plz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
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11-29-2013, 12:29 AMCraiger
So you have to kill all of them just to get an ilvl 90 weapon ? -_-
This game is a gear treadmill, yet they aren't adding goals for players to achieve... Kill 3 more primals which will probably be impossible to do using only DF, and then you get a weapon that is the same ilvl as Relic + 1....
This whole patch seems to be for alts or something.... CT seems to be pretty good addition, although it seems too easy, but I won't need to do the rest unless I lvl up another alt. Already have 5... It's even worse for the ones who have finished Coil (which is increasing rapidly)
Well getting a little off topic, but I'm pretty disappointed from what I've seen so far.... -
11-29-2013, 12:33 AMsaber_alterarmor, i would assume it would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ephier
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11-29-2013, 01:37 AMSchalaZealYou expect people to make 24-man premades?Quote:
Kill 3 more primals which will probably be impossible to do using only DF
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11-29-2013, 01:47 AMTupsiHey, welcome to new age MMORPGs, enjoy what people from 1.x complained about XIV needed to do :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Genjisamurai
It would be fine if Yoshi didn't get rid of "worthelss" stats like enmity, or enhancing job abilities which would make Relic+1 (or higher if upgrades later) the better choice in the long run. -
11-29-2013, 02:32 AMShort
I thought I read somewhere that they would be ilvl80 and not ilvl90?
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11-29-2013, 02:41 AMZfz
iLv 80 is Crystal Tower and Mog King.
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11-29-2013, 02:57 AMBlueMage
Aww, I was hoping there'd be i90 versions of all the Primal weapons. I like some of those skins.
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11-29-2013, 03:46 AMDukeBurden
My concern for these types of things are how are they going to shift the stats around every time for multiple iLvl 80-90 armor and weapons. There's only so many combinations of stats that would make an item iLvl 80-90. This is already the case with Allagan and Myth AF armors to find "BiS".
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11-29-2013, 04:21 AMRyansThey're pissed because they spent three weeks worth of points on something that is comparable to something that could possibly take a day to get (After you learn the fights, of course). They could have spent those points to get ilvl 90 equipment on the other hand that will still be best in slot in a lot of cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by NyneAlexander
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11-29-2013, 04:23 AMBlueMageHow is it any different than Coil drops vs AF2?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryans
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11-29-2013, 04:42 AMOmegaFlare
The new ilvl 90 weapons will be much harder to obtain since you have to kill titan HM and complete three EX primal battles whereas with relic + 1, you just have to kill titan HM and wait 3 weeks. You only need DL to beat titan HM but you'll probably need ilvl80 gears to beat EX primals. As usual, the better the gears the easier the fights will be. The super rich players will just pay their way to thru the EX primals whereas the majority of players will still go for relic + 1.
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11-29-2013, 06:02 AMRealchuckyBut isnt this a normal way for an MMO that you will get better gear in new content?Quote:
Originally Posted by Genjisamurai
I dont want to run 1, 2, 3 years with the same gear! Its crapy GW2 style were you get your endgame gear with reaching the max. lvl. --- boooring!
I want to hunt new gear all time and want to have a goal to clear the end content and acutal content with new patches to get better gear, to raise my stats, to get better!
Having relic +1 is a normal way to beat Coil and than with relic +1 i go to Primae extreme mode. And i bet people without minimum relic +1 wont find a extreme mode group!
For me its the normal way, having the goal getting relic +1 and than the goal to beat Twintania. With Patch 2.1 i have a new goal, killing primae extreme modes and if its necessary to have at least relic +1 than i have it already! If i need a better weapon i will have the goal to get it. -
11-29-2013, 06:12 AMShineboxYou want to get your best item available even if it's going to be replaced later. If you're entire party has a ilvl90 weapons and you're attacking with a level 80 weapon you're going to be a detriment to the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
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11-29-2013, 12:13 PMGenjisamuraiIts not like getting myth tomes is unlimited. I wouldnt have +1 my relic and invested in af+1. I +1 relic for 3 jobs. So yes its alot of myth tomes I have wasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realchucky
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11-29-2013, 06:32 PMRyansIt's different because the weapons from beating all three Extreme modes is a guaranteed item. You can go through coil multiple times, like many have, and never see a drop you can use. Getting relic gear with mythology is a nice consolation prize and eliminates the RNG for gear. If Turn 5 was easy enough for pugs to beat, people would continue to spend their points on relic+1 because it is still a guaranteed item of the highest quality. The problem comes in when you only get one guaranteed item every two to three weeks and they introduce a new, possibly obtainable in a day item after everyone has already spent three weeks of their points on something of equal strength. It sets back anyone who choose to get relic+1 instead of relic gear first by three weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueMage
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11-29-2013, 07:12 PMEinSoFZ
Anyone who thinks they "wasted" myth by getting a relic+1 before this gets released is being just as silly as people who buy computers and then spend a lot of time lamenting the fact that several months from that point it won't be worth what it once was. Move on and look forward people. Somehow I think you'll be glad you have a +1 while you even try to get these new weapons.
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11-29-2013, 07:22 PMdiulalasing
Depends on the class, say if you are a white mage, your relic +1 is very decent.
The extreme one on the other hand could be a ilvl 90 wep with no DET or Crit -
11-30-2013, 01:40 AMRyansIt's more like you buying a computer with a no refund policy from a company and then that company releases a new computer with the same specs for a lower price. The time table isn't the same for everyone either. Some have had their relic+1 for months whereas some just got their relic+1, possibly the first item they bought with mythology, only to find out that they could have an item of equal value and the relic body in less time.Quote:
Originally Posted by EinSoFZ
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11-30-2013, 01:47 AMEphierVery good analogy. I can hands down say I got my worth out of my relic +1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryans