Are there any detailed guides around for playing as MRD/WAR? Can't seem to find one that covers the basics and finer points of the class/job. Something like this would be epic: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Compendium-2.0
Warrior Tanking Help
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11-23-2013, 11:16 AMAkuhaWarrior Tanking Help
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11-23-2013, 11:31 AMSpookyGhost
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0-%28Lvl-50%29
Closest thing you'll find. Unfortunately it's not as good as the PLD equivalent, but it's... something. To be honest, WAR is very "learn by doing" so a guide won't help all that much - better to just dive head first into a dungeon and experience for yourself. -
11-23-2013, 12:40 PMMaqaqa
Here is my micro guide:
Keep your wrath stacks and maim always up, buff IB before using it, alternate featherfoot and foresight, stay alive!
If for any reason you NEED to IB -> infuriate -> IB, use convalescence to keep the healing bonus up while building wrath back.
Remember that berserker and vengeance will give you one stack of wrath.
Second wind suxxx, its not worth the slot. Convalescence, internal release and featherfoot are good, provoke and flash mandatory.
Guides are nice but what you need is to tank tank tank! Avoid fates if you are leveling up, get into dungeons. -
11-23-2013, 12:44 PMTeleniel
If you're looking for how to tank pre-BCoB then you just need to find a basic opening rotation guide.
If you're looking in to BCoB you're either ready for it (because you've had practice with things like tanking HM Garuda/Titan) or you got carried/Fate-grinded and need to learn how to use your relic & job skills (Wraith / Inner Beast)
Third option is you won't be ready for when it matters before the way to play the class changes with 2.1 -
11-23-2013, 12:54 PMExstalBonus Stat AllocationQuote:
Originally Posted by SpookyGhost
STR is recommended.
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11-23-2013, 01:32 PMPaikis
Not a guide, but read it anyways:
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._wrath_stacks/ -
11-24-2013, 01:18 AMEavenAh crap, this is what I thought we were supposed to do. So Vitality? A mix? Why the LoL :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Exstal
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11-24-2013, 01:30 AMExstalAt this state of FFXIV, STR was used to increase the amount self-heals you do. However, due to content vastly outscaling the healing potential of your skills, STR is only used for content that you outgear. As a tank, you just stack all VIT. You can be STR if you love putting strain on your healers, and not using your self-heal anyway unless you have Infuriate up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaven
Although, with coming Warrior changes, it seems STR build isn't too far-fetched. Due to the switch of healing buff tied to Wrath stacks going to Defiance, you can freely spend your Wrath stacks without putting healers in a bad spot. Thus, doing more damage with STR is viable since you can spend Wrath stacks for more damage. Personally though, if I was a full time tank, there is no reason to stack STR. Aggro is only an issue if you have poor rotation, trigger happy DPS or both, whereas having more HP is only beneficial for doing what a tank is supposed to do, survive. -
11-24-2013, 01:41 AMEavenThis makes sense. Considering the changes of 2.1, would it be reasonable to think a mix of STR & VIT would be helpful? We have such good DPS players in my FC and I worry if I suddenly drop 30 STR things will get ugly. However, until I saw the WAR changes, I've been using PLD solely for Coil, my warrior's been collecting dust since I hit 50, so I'm still re-adjusting to the WAR play-style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exstal
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11-24-2013, 07:24 AMPaikisIf you do this, you're bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exstal
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11-24-2013, 07:59 AMExstalI believe with the speculated change to Inner Beast lowers healed amount from 300% to 100%, your STR increase will still make this heal pitiful. However, that's not why you would use it. The 20% damage reduction is key. As for dropping 30 STR, full VIT Warriors can hold aggro off relic +1 BLM and i90 DRG/MNKs so it's entirely plausible that you can do the same. The only issue you may have is if they are really geared and you're sporting Bravua +0 instead of +1. Which can be remedied in places where it isn't a DPS race and your DPS can hold off. However given that 2x Butcher's Block Combo and 1 Storm's Eye pretty much guarantees you aggro over everything in your party, you won't really feel the pinch. You won't see impressive Inner Beast numbers though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaven
Yes. I, too, like reducing my incoming heals by 15% at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paikis
More often than not, keeping Wrath stack > using Wrath stacks. -
11-24-2013, 08:22 AMPaikisExcept you don't reduce your incoming heals by 15%, you reduce them by 13% and over the course of re-building your stacks its more like 7%. Unless you are taking huge levels of damage (levels that don't exist outside of huge trash pulls in 4-mans) you are always better off using Inner Beast if the healing is needed (i.e you're below 50%). Use Inner Beast. It is better in almost every situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exstal
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11-24-2013, 08:59 AMExstal
I suppose I should have said, "in Titan and above". For 4-man content, Warrior is preferred because they require less heals since Inner Beast is overpowered for it. Whereas when using Inner Beast is detrimental to your survival is the problem.
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11-24-2013, 09:05 AMPaikisI was talking about Titan and above. Are you getting healed for 2k+ every GCD for the entire time you're rebuilding your stacks? No? Then Inner Beast is probably better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exstal
Inner beast heals for 1000? It's better unless you're getting 1,597 heals every GCD for the next 20 seconds. (12,776 total)
Inner beast heals for 1500? It's better unless you're getting 2,396 heals every GCD for the next 20 seconds. (19,168 total)
Inner beast heals for 2000? It's better unless you're getting 3,194 heals every GCD for the next 20 seconds. (25,552 total)
Inner beast heals for 3000? It's better unless you're getting 4,791 heals every GCD for the next 20 seconds. (38,328 total)