The only thing that really bothers me personally
is that there are only two level 50 four man dungeons.
Yeah.... thats... kinda... dumb.
As for the rest of you people complaining, I feel your pain.
But your also probably the type of person who complains about the high
price of gas but leaves your tv / pc on all night, while you sleep.
You also probably make fun of hybrids.
By the way, maybe if your not happy with a product, ie (ANYTHING YOU DON'T LIKE)
Don't pay for it?
I really am not happy with a lot of things about this game right now
but.... there's still plenty to do. I GUESS.
If your not happy just leave.
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11-20-2013, 08:47 PMAaron_TIf your not happy just leave.
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11-20-2013, 08:57 PMPhaus
This seemed more fitting as a lodestone entry rather than a whole forum post dedicated to it. since y'know, there's only 50 pages of the same topic.
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11-20-2013, 09:06 PMRi_ri
Yeah... I don't get the people who continue paying and commenting about a game they don't like.
Not white knighting, but it seems pointless. If I didn't like it, I'd just cancel my sub and move on until 2.1 or something. -
11-20-2013, 09:07 PMRazzle
Too bad SE is trying to make money. If SE go by your logic and just tell people "if you don't like, don't play!" instead of taking their feedback and applying changes and fixes... I'm not sure if this game will live long. Not saying I support every single complaint on this forum, but people that say "if you don't like, don't play!" always make me laugh...
It's better that people voice what they don't like than just leave the game quietly. It's more healthy for SE, for the game, and for the community in the long run... -
11-20-2013, 09:13 PMRi_riYeah... ask Blizzard how much profit they had when they listened to "the community" at the end of WotLK and made the next expansion and patches harder and longer.Quote:
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11-20-2013, 09:14 PMRyuni
"If you're not happy"
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11-20-2013, 09:17 PMFreakiie
Trolls aside there are plenty of people that dislike parts of FFXIV, but don't dislike the entire game. Is that such a strange concept? Is it so weird that some people want to see FFXIV do well? Is it weird that people see that there's potential in FFXIV and they want it realised?
FFXIV is not an all or nothing package. People that dislike everything are nothing more than trolls and people that consider the game perfect and SE flawless are just as bad (or even worse since their subs don't tend to run out, so they're around for a while :P). There are however plenty people in between that see FFXIV has flaws, that SE has flaws or simply want to suggest stuff they'd like to see changed. Just because someone is complaining about FF does not mean they hate it. Just because somebody points out that FF has flaws does not mean they want to see it crash and burn. Just because someone might have a more realistic outlook on FF then some of the white knights here does not make them a doomsayer. -
11-20-2013, 09:18 PMHuxerNot that I care concerning people complaining or attitudes or how bored someone is, all that has little to no meaning for me. Now you are making a logical falicy concerning the state of WoW where you seem to think it's because the content in Wow was made too hard in pandatown? You think THAT's why people left? Get real. Please don't go to law school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ri_ri
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11-20-2013, 09:19 PMRazzleThat has nothing to do with what I said. This thread is telling people to just leave the game instead of voicing their concerns. But people shouldn't just "shut up and leave" As you claim they should. They should complain in the forums and then SE can decide to which complaints they listen and to which they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ri_ri
I didn't play WoW but if Blizzard did lose so many subscriptions for listening to their customers as you claim they did, then maybe they took the wrong decisions. But it's their fault for taking the wrong ideas out of their player base. If you tell everyone to shut up, it will also shut up the good ideas the players can offer. -
11-20-2013, 09:31 PMmindful
A lot people do leave. At the Same time people see this game got a chance for succeeding and people will complain about it. With the hope they will listen and see the problems, Why people leave and fixed it. If square do not make the money, It bad for there customers and them also.
For a example: a lot companies are moving there customer service people you talk to back to the usa for usa customers from all the complaints, and people not buying there products, and it starting to get better slowly, But left the rest for there employees like it should be. -
11-20-2013, 09:31 PMMalekithActually, after WoTLK came (ugh) Cataclism. One of the main complaints about that expansion was the difficulty level for Heroics. Wrathbabies couldn't cope I imagine.Quote:
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About the topic at hand? Well 15$/€ per month uis quite cheaper than any analist will charge.... It is true that there a many problems with teh game, but surely screaming and whining on a forum isn't the best way to deal with them and doesn't foster any form of discussion.
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11-20-2013, 09:37 PMMalekithThey listened to a vocal minority (hardcore raiders) exactly like Anet listened to the wowtards asking for gear grind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razzle
All in all, devs should only listen to bug reports and stick to their guns, because whatever choice they will make, a part of the player base will find a reason to quit or complain.
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11-20-2013, 09:41 PMRazzleThat's the point, if the game will fail - It won't be...Quote:
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SE want to attract new players as well as maintain their current community, and I don't see how telling people to just leave if they're not happy, will help SE achieve that lol...
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11-20-2013, 09:50 PMToystore
There's no way to tell who you should listen to. You can listen to everybody and end up with the Homer, or you can listen to no one and stick to your guns and possibly crash and burn just as bad. In the end the developers need to listen to people who know what they're doing. How do you tell who that is? Hell if I know.
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11-20-2013, 09:56 PMMalekithNo it's that you don't understand or even try to understand. No one is saying people to leave, OP is saying "If you think the game is crap (or partially crap), instead of spending your time filling the forums with pointless, non-constructive whines and flame wars, go to play something that you enjoy". No one is saying nothing about complaints that lead to discussion. SE knows well that after 1-2 months games shed people:the locusts jump on another game, the wowtards go back to wow, and so on... Honestly, if you ask my opinion, they went too overboard with the dumbing down and 'speed levelling' and this will in the medium term hurt the game a lot, but that's just my personal opinion and I am not going to start threads over thread about this.Quote:
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11-20-2013, 09:59 PMSinisterJoint
Not enough hugs from mommy as a child *nods
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11-20-2013, 10:06 PMmindfulGood point. They should though think about poaching a few westernized or south korean dev people though to help them out. With there concept. Not waste money. Though Trying stuff other people have done and would not work and just work on cleaning there game up and add what square devs want.Quote:
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11-20-2013, 10:17 PMRi_riYou often can't tell if it's a bad or good idea. People would take longer to complete content. It would enforce a "sense of community" by having everyone communicate and work together to beat bosses. what could go wrong with the plan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razzle
It also seemed that 2.05 was a good idea. It seems like all it did was increase the speed people would burn out of the game, since now speed running WP became a thing, mobs are still skipped, money is no longer something to spend time getting, manually repairing your gear became useless.
There's no complaint SE can listen to, anyway. Most people here just whine on and on about things that can't be changed. SE can't poop out 10 new dungeons (to be ignored in favour of the fastest one). -
11-20-2013, 10:21 PMToystore
I suppose if any of us knew who to listen to we'd be sitting atop a pile of cash. Such is the burden of the creator, take the criticism, the good and the bad, and trust your judgment with what to listen to.
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11-21-2013, 01:28 AMStaniceThen you know what to do, follow your own advice.Quote:
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11-21-2013, 01:30 AMMolly_MillionsSince this is more interesting than the OP. You're = you are; your is possessive, as in "I like your shoes."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuni
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11-21-2013, 01:36 AMPhe
it's the dumbest f*cking dumb argument and i'm sick of reading it.
for this game i see like 10 PROs and 3 CONs.
the PROs outweigh the CONs for me so i play it.
can i still ask for the flaws to get fixed?
yes i can.
yes i do.
as i pay. -
11-21-2013, 01:40 AMGramul
I don't take kindly to baseless conjecture Aaron.
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11-21-2013, 02:06 AMcottiNo. Nope. No, no, no. Nay.Quote:
If your not