So many times now I have waited 30-40+ min on my bard for a dungeon using Duty finder and have been denied then being able to enter because I was "busy". It is starting to get really frustrating.
If you are in the middle of a fate on a different class and you are the duty finder pops up suddenly, you barely have enough time to get away and enter -- especially if you end up fighting inside of a cave that takes longer to get away from the mob, or if you accidentally grab aggro from a random mob while running away.
It seems like there should either be a longer timer on the withdraw for duty finder, or you should be able to change classes more quickly. It has happened twice to me already today when I was 40 minutes into the duty finder. What a waste of time ....
Duty Finder while Fate Farming is fail
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11-04-2013, 03:27 PMHijinksDuty Finder while Fate Farming is fail
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11-04-2013, 05:31 PMGuevara
Even worst if you do fate/levequests ad ACN lol. Pet will get aggro for you as well.
I totally support this; it would be enough to let you press the "Accept" DF button even on a different class and swap you to the queueing class/job automatically. Probably have a system to register Gear Set with Job so that in the accept process the designated gear set is used to get you changed. Easy solution to a huge issue, imho. -
11-04-2013, 09:43 PMEdewen
A longer wait time by default would be a problem. I agree something should be done, perhaps a button to acknowledge and give yourself another 60 seconds to prepare if needed if you are in combat.
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11-05-2013, 12:19 AMCyanDvai
When they boost dungeon XP to be equivalent or better than Fate XP then people will be running dungeons more often instead of Fates. I prefer to do dungeons, I can't stand the Fate grind.
Dungeon XP isn't bad, I noticed I was getting 1000+ XP per mob that I killed in Haukke Manor, but would be nice if it was more practical than Fates. -
11-05-2013, 12:37 AMGuevaraSorry but this is out of context. Even if Dungeons xp would be a lot higher than fate one, a person could still wish to do something while waiting for the DF call, instead of sitting there 30 minutes doing nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyanDvai
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11-05-2013, 01:10 AMCyanDvai
More people running dungeons, less wait time.
But yes, I see you point since I didn't mention anything about doing other things while waiting.
I have done Fates while waiting for a DF dungeon but have not run into the issue where I could not accept the pop. Maybe I've just been lucky that I wasn't actively engaged with a mob when the DF pop came.
I don't craft yet, but I've heard complaints about it from people in my FC that while stuck in the crafting window they missed the DF pop. -
11-05-2013, 01:18 AMGuevaraI craft a lot, but usually have just enough time to end a craft and go, but I can see it being a problem when attempting high level recipes which need a lot of stepsQuote:
Originally Posted by CyanDvai
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11-05-2013, 03:13 AMNoahlimits
Yeah, but then people will have to wait even longer when people AFK instead of 'accepting duty'. Ever have those people that wait the full 45 seconds and not accept? Imagine if it were 5 minutes.
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11-05-2013, 07:15 AMTychoCelchuI think it would be best to add a little bit more time to the wait: I've missed my queue a couple of times due to being in the bathroom or something and see it run out of time right before I can accept it. Maybe like 30 more seconds, but giving more than a minute and a half would be too muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Noahlimits
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11-05-2013, 09:35 AMRandalthorHow about you allow the commence button to be active regardless of what class you are on and let SE pop up a message saying "you are on x class, and this is for y class. Would you like to continue?" Then you press continue and your class switches and you join the DF dungeon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hijinks
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11-05-2013, 03:04 PMGeilLega
+1 for class auto-switch. Folks who have a super long queue time really can't be expected to stand around doing nothing.
While I would like to see dungeon xp > fate xp only because dungeons are harder (not incredibly hard, but fates essentially require you to roll your face across your keyboard and the main challenge is in avoiding getting drool on your keys), if twice as much of the current population were running dungeons, wait times would be exactly the same. Changing the rewards will not magically make people who don't want to tank suddenly play a class they don't like. -
11-05-2013, 04:29 PMDumai
As always the real issue is the lack of tanks. More people will still result in long queue times because the ratio of tanks to other classes will still be the same. If you're dungeon running for tomes, roll a tank alt for instant queue. If more people did this there wouldn't be as much of a problem. As for dungeons at lower levels, you're kind of screwed. You only run those once anyway though.
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11-05-2013, 07:00 PMNitrosThat could be troublesome. In order to change to a class/job you need to equip the weapon. That is usually done with your stored profiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guevara
Is the game supposed to know which profile or weapon you used when queueing? What would happen if the player had deleted the profile/weapon whilst waiting on DF?
I can see several problems that the developers decided to (lazily) sort by just forcing you to be in that class before clicking on Accept. -
11-06-2013, 09:10 AMNaberrieLike crafting, or fishing, or farming, or gathering?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guevara
There are things other than FATEs you can do to fill the time. I usually switch to gathering or farm mats for crafting. -
11-08-2013, 03:20 PMHijinks
I am glad so many people agree with adding some time to the "commence" part of the duty finder.... even if it were 30 seconds extra it would help A LOT.
Missed a duty again just now because I couldn't get away from Svara fate fast enough. 45 minutes down the drain and I also missed out on the 30,000 xp from the fate for leaving early and changing jobs -
11-08-2013, 04:03 PMZaftWhat WoW does works quite well, imo. If you click "Accept" and you're in combat, it will still let you join the party, but simply not teleport you into the instance. Instead, once you're out of combat, you just click "Enter Dungeon". The same thing could be done here with an option on the Duty Finder that says "Commence Duty".Quote:
Originally Posted by Hijinks