Se. Give us healers better indicators

Basically as a healer, unless we have a mob targeted, we see neither the aggro meters beside peoples names, nor do we see the mobs casting bar. This could be partly remedied by having the aggro bars always showing and always showing mob(s) engaged. This is a healer specific query. I cant be the only healer thats finding this an issue.

One of my main gripes with the Raid frames is that they don't fade-out when the target is out of range (usually 30 yalms) or LoSed.

While this isn't a major issue, it would be nice if I didn't have to waste time checking if someone is out of range before moving.

As for the threat, all they need to do is make better use of the coloured icons.

A cast bar on ToT would be great as well.

I've been asking for this as a Tank since week 1; if someone aggro's something in a run, I have no way of knowing unless they happen to be on my screen or they say something in chat, and by then they're at 35% hp.

I thought this was what Focus Target was for? You know you can Focus Target right?

/action "Cure" <t>
/action "Cure" <tt>

Helps quite a bit when you're dealing damage and healing at the same time. Also allows you to have the mob targeted and still be able to heal the target of it's attacks.

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Originally Posted by EzriNuru

I thought this was what Focus Target was for? You know you can Focus Target right?

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This, and in 2.1 the Focus bar is getting upgraded so the cast bar isn't covered up by other stuff.

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Originally Posted by TaalAzura

I've been asking for this as a Tank since week 1; if someone aggro's something in a run, I have no way of knowing unless they happen to be on my screen or they say something in chat, and by then they're at 35% hp.

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That's what the enemy list is for; it tells you exactly which mobs you have aggro from and which you don't. As a tank you should be checking the enemy list literally every few seconds. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, and you mean someone pulling a mob somewhere else that you have yet to go for and as such doesn't show up on your enemy list, in which case that person sucks.

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Originally Posted by ufufu

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That's what the enemy list is for; it tells you exactly which mobs you have aggro from and which you don't. As a tank you should be checking the enemy list literally every few seconds. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, and you mean someone pulling a mob somewhere else that you have yet to go for and as such doesn't show up on your enemy list, in which case that person sucks.

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Problem with that is when you get into 2-tank situations. Currently there is not a way to quickly tell who has hate if it is not you. Having a toggle-able mechanism that shows "target's target" on the enemy list would be extremely helpful. Or even set an additional threat-gem specific for tank-role. I.e. blue shield gem if the tank (or other tank if player is a tank in 2tank+ party) is the focus of mob currently.

If you're a white mage just assume you're always about to pull off the tank. I can't wait for addons though which will hopefully have a better indicator with gauges ♥

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Originally Posted by Lucavern

Problem with that is when you get into 2-tank situations. Currently there is not a way to quickly tell who has hate if it is not you. Having a toggle-able mechanism that shows "target's target" on the enemy list would be extremely helpful. Or even set an additional threat-gem specific for tank-role. I.e. blue shield gem if the tank (or other tank if player is a tank in 2tank+ party) is the focus of mob currently.

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Originally Posted by ufufu

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That's what the enemy list is for; it tells you exactly which mobs you have aggro from and which you don't. As a tank you should be checking the enemy list literally every few seconds. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, and you mean someone pulling a mob somewhere else that you have yet to go for and as such doesn't show up on your enemy list, in which case that person sucks.

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Lucavern brings up one of my other issues with the hate list, but what I was referring to is if a mob is unaggrod and just roaming around the map as you're fighting a different set of mobs, and aggros a party member i can't see. That mob that attacked a pt member won't come onto my list, even if they start to attack it.

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Originally Posted by EzriNuru

I thought this was what Focus Target was for? You know you can Focus Target right?

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while I haven't needed this in ARR until now, I can tell you: sometimes a healer will not want to focus target an enemy.

personally, I'd really love to have a 'two target' system like The Secret World has, for example (I don't know if any other games have it, it was the first one where I saw it)
basically you always have a friendly and an enemy target. granted this is more to do with the way TSW works (shotgun healing for example basically has to have an enemy target to heal a friendly target) but it may still be useful for ARR regarless.

and definitely agreed on the greyed out party frame if someone in the party/raid isn't in range. I think ARR makes some things way too easy with the aggro table and all that, but the 'not being able to tell if someone is in healing range' issue is baffling to me because it seems like such a basic thing really.

The enemy list tells you when you have aggro or not to every enemy, but not how close you are to losing aggro. That's the tanks problem. For healers it works fine because you know you're about to pull, but the tank just sees red gems, not knowing the WHM is at orange on target #3 or #4.

Maybe they should blink for the tank classes. They don't blink at all if everyone is green, but if someone is at yellow they blink slowly, and at orange they blink quickly. Or maybe just show more aggro gems for the other party members, even if there's no way to identify which player goes with which gem, maybe just show 1 more gem, the highest aggro of any party member besides you on that mob. That's all you really want to know anyway, which ones you're in danger of losing.

You know you can't Focus Target with a gamepad unless you make a macro and place it in all your bars, when there's barely space for abilities in the crossbars as is and having a third cross hotbar is too cumbersome and time consuming to switch between them in combat because having only two combat crosshotbars is better because you can simply tap R1 to switch them, and that the PS3 version can't even Focus Target at all and there's a high chance it won't even be implemented in 2.1 for them, right?

Oh sorry I'm just an entitled rambler, never mind.

Focus target on the boss, you can see its cast bar and buffs/debuffs. Mob list has little symbols which show you how close you are to pulling aggro on each mob you have more than zero enmity with.

Compare these two pictures. Note how you cannot tell which mob you necessarily have hate on. You would either have to watch and hear that split second sound and aggro line or you'd have to HP match with your list or cycle through... I can live with all of these things but it's so easy to just see which mob has how much hate just by looking at them.
http://i.imgur.com/lQYQSMol.jpg

This is from 1.0 and you can easily see the hate on all the mobs at all times.
http://i.imgur.com/0TFS9Lkl.jpg

Anyway it's not gamebreaking but it certainly is a minor peeve.

Is this "Focus Target" available in macro list on PS3?

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Originally Posted by Chitsune

Is this "Focus Target" available in macro list on PS3?

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No Focus Target on PS3

People heal without mouseover macros? Well that certainly explains some things.