I really wish SE would drop / reduce the XI sub for XIV players

It would be pretty sweet to go back and show friends what it used to be like in the last hardcore MMO.

FFXI is not the old hardcore FFXI anymore. That said I would LOVE a good discount on FFXI. If it was like somewhere between 5 to 8 euros if you have an active FFXIV subscription I would subscribe to FFXI again just to have some fun on my BST.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

FFXI is not the old hardcore FFXI anymore. That said I would LOVE a good discount on FFXI.

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Oh I certainly realize that. You can still play it the same way. I wonder what the sort of meta of the game really is for people who want to level "au natural" and refuse to go Abyssea. Like, I can imagine the player pool is VERY scarce, trying to /sea all lfp would be very interesting just to see how many people in the 10~50 range there even are. I imagine some would not mind level syncing down, but, truth be told the only way it would really work is if you got 5 other friends and just went at it. I mean, despite how hard many remember leveling in XI was, if you had a solid static you could totally get stuff done.

I just think it would be a great gesture of SE. I have hardly any reason to play XIV (and obviously, much less XI) but it would still be fun to mess around over there.

Discounts are for casuals. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

FFXI is not the old hardcore FFXI anymore. That said I would LOVE a good discount on FFXI. If it was like somewhere between 5 to 8 euros if you have an active FFXIV subscription I would subscribe to FFXI again just to have some fun on my BST.

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Loved playing bst until they nerfed some stuff, like pets or mobs disappearing after a certain distance. Bst was the most fun for me sadly came to an end after they changed it all. None the less bst was great fun.
Shout out to all the bsts still on Odin :)

Why should you get a Discount ?
There are people on FFXI that are loyal and continued to pay their subs while you ran off into the sunset and came to this game and god knows how many games before this game........

That said , I think FFXI players should get a Sub Discount like Legacy Players with a special Tattoo that says " Hey I stuck this out while everyone ditched it and ran off" .

(I by the way , was one of the ones who ran off) . FFXI players should get something special for their loyalty to a game that's is one of the Oldest MMOs still running .

XI has been running for so long now, they should consider dropping the monthly fee a few bucks anyway regardless if you play XIV or not. Maybe even additional characters are now .50.-.75 instead of a dollar. Go back to the good ole 10 dollar days!

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Originally Posted by Overon

Why should you get a Discount ?

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Because they will almost certainly make more money overall. The sub is a bit too high overall to justify me paying it when I already pay for XIV, if it was less, I'd consider it. Int he end, all that means is more money for SE. Others might do the same, there is really just no downside to it.

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Originally Posted by Overon

Why should you get a Discount ?
There are people on FFXI that are loyal and continued to pay their subs while you ran off into the sunset and came to this game and god knows how many games before this game........

That said , I think FFXI players should get a Sub Discount like Legacy Players with a special Tattoo that says " Hey I stuck this out while everyone ditched it and ran off" .

(I by the way , was one of the ones who ran off) . FFXI players should get something special for their loyalty to a game that's is one of the Oldest MMOs still running .

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Because when XIV came out their was a discount for playing both games. This ended when XIV went free to play.

Dont they have some bundle to sub for both games? Couldve sworn I saw something like that somewhere. /shrug

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Originally Posted by Kayo

Dont they have some bundle to sub for both games? Couldve sworn I saw something like that somewhere. /shrug

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They used to, but to my knowledge there is nothing like that now.

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Originally Posted by darkm0d

I have hardly any reason to play XIV (and obviously, much less XI)

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The people who still pay for FFXI will pay for it until they shut down the servers, the extra 200 players they would get for the package deal is probably not worth the effort.

XI is their most profitable title to date, dropping or reducing the sub would be silly.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

XI is their most profitable title to date, dropping or reducing the sub would be silly.

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except it is what they did from day 1

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/08/17/final-fantasy-xi-subscribers-start-final-fantasy-xiv-with-golden-shoes/

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Finally, if you decide to keep your Final Fantasy XI account active, Square Enix will give you a $5.95 discount making the monthly fee for Final Fantasy XI $7.00.

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Give me a CoP era server (the last time I seriously played the game) and I'll sub. That means no level sync'ing, no page burning parties, cap @75, no /dnc making solo'ing a joke. I want to grind Valkurm Dunes til my eyes bleed! /hardcore

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

XI is their most profitable title to date, dropping or reducing the sub would be silly.

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Yeah, you clearly do not understand my point. Drop the sub if you already have an active XIV account. That ONLY means more money. Even if they made XI free for people who subbed to XIV, it would still be an overall general loss of $0.

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Originally Posted by darkm0d

Yeah, you clearly do not understand my point. Drop the sub if you already have an active XIV account. That ONLY means more money. Even if they made XI free for people who subbed to XIV, it would still be an overall general loss of $0.

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Alternatively you could not be a cheapskate. SE is not in the business of MMO Gamer charity.

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

except it is what they did from day 1

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/08/17...-golden-shoes/

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They did that day 1 in XIV 1.0 and subsequently ended that just as quickly as they started it - This isn't true as unless you're a 1.0 player you cannot get Hermes Sandals anymore.

I still pay $14.95/month for XI and 9.99 for XIV, so they most definitely do not have the dual subscription option active.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Alternatively you could not be a cheapskate. SE is not in the business of MMO Gamer charity.

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Ah, sorry you think this has anything to do with charity. This is about SE making more money, sorry you misunderstood.

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Originally Posted by darkm0d

Ah, sorry you think this has anything to do with charity. This is about SE making more money, sorry you misunderstood.

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They wouldn't necessarily make more money since most people playing XIV as Kiria pretty much demonstrated are well past the days of how FFXI is designed and would likely quit within a few hours.

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Originally Posted by darkm0d

Oh I certainly realize that. You can still play it the same way. I wonder what the sort of meta of the game really is for people who want to level "au natural" and refuse to go Abyssea. Like, I can imagine the player pool is VERY scarce, trying to /sea all lfp would be very interesting just to see how many people in the 10~50 range there even are. I imagine some would not mind level syncing down, but, truth be told the only way it would really work is if you got 5 other friends and just went at it. I mean, despite how hard many remember leveling in XI was, if you had a solid static you could totally get stuff done.

I just think it would be a great gesture of SE. I have hardly any reason to play XIV (and obviously, much less XI) but it would still be fun to mess around over there.

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I picked up the game for a few months and dropped it ~6 months ago. You won’t find anyone using the LFG group anymore. Even if you had 5 friends to run a static with, leveling the old way might still be impossible. The AH doesn’t have much low level gear anymore, so you would have to find some crafters willing to help out and gear your entire party. I found that people aren’t as willing to donate their time as they used to be. Nothing is free and inflation is high. I was able to get a few old school parties going for the sake of nostalgia… they got boring fast really fast. It’s hard to value the xp you’re getting when you know you could be leveling up so much faster.

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Hah, that's pretty interesting, if not depressing. To be expected, though I suppose. I was curious about the gear aspect for sure. I wonder, if any feasible way around that would be other than desperately clinging to signet gear, not that it's that sustainable anyway. I'm curious if my old character has anything of value, or if my gil would be enough to get a few friends set for a bit.

Currently we have no plans to implement a similar discount system like the one that ran during the launch of FFXIV 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Currently we have no plans to implement a similar discount system like the one that ran during the launch of FFXIV 1.0.

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SE doesn't like making money.

I do like this idea.

But I think Final Fantasy 11 (especially since it continues to introduce new content) is worthy of it's own subscription fee.

The problem though is Final Fantasy 14 has made such a huge dent into Final Fantasy 11's population. The game is almost like a ghost town now... which is very sad to see. So I do think they should implement this change, if for no other reason than this.

Oh well I probably would have bought the game and subscribed if they had but as I see no reason to pay for the game and another full subscription price on top of what I'm already paying I guess not.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Currently we have no plans to implement a similar discount system like the one that ran during the launch of FFXIV 1.0.

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this is sad news :( I was considering reviving it for at least a month or two to show my other half what the previous FF-MMO was like (including how cute the tarutaru were).

Coming from another angle, I would gladly have paid a few more bucks more had SE found a way to connect both 11 and 14 as one world/parallel world via moghouses as originally envisioned.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

XI is their most profitable title to date, dropping or reducing the sub would be silly.

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Why do people keep saying this as if it's at all relevant these days? Sure, SE made a ton of money on it in the past, but that doesn't mean it's still raking in tons of cash for them today.

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Originally Posted by KariArisu

SE doesn't like making money.

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More like they want you to spend money on what they're putting dev hours into now, like Lightning Returns.

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Originally Posted by Roaminggnome

Oh well I probably would have bought the game and subscribed if they had but as I see no reason to pay for the game and another full subscription price on top of what I'm already paying I guess not.

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oh well i guess you wont play huh
two different games, two different subscriptions.

When MMORPG was first invented, the Gaming Gods said "Thou shalt charge $15 a month, or not at all", so no MMORPG is ever allowed to reduce their monthly fee.

Honestly it's pretty ridiculous to think that $15/month is the exact profit maximizing point for supply versus demand in EVERY SUBSCRIPTION MMORPG but you can't argue against the Gaming Gods.

I stopped my FFXI account, 12.95 + $4 * exchange rate = 19.95 for a game I'm not really playing much. But 9.95 + exchange I would totally have both, on the off chance of logging into the other. Ie when FFXIV is offline for a evening.

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Originally Posted by Velev

Loved playing bst until they nerfed some stuff, like pets or mobs disappearing after a certain distance. Bst was the most fun for me sadly came to an end after they changed it all. None the less bst was great fun.
Shout out to all the bsts still on Odin :)

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Best thing about bst when ffxi first came out was mpk. You did not want to piss off a bst back then.

I should also get a discount for other FF games I've bought over the years.

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Originally Posted by Accolades

Best thing about bst when ffxi first came out was mpk. You did not want to piss off a bst back then.

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Didn't have to be a bst could just agro a gob have it chase you linking the rest then run and die beside someone or run back to kazzam then zone and watch them kill any afkers or party camps that couldn't deal with them or not paying attention. I liked killing rmters either by when their members get charmed any you start killing them while they frantically typing phuck off in very bad English or mpking with stoneskin blink and warp

Based off all the threads I see quite a few want this game to be like ffxi also.

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Originally Posted by chubnasty

oh well i guess you wont play huh
two different games, two different subscriptions.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

Why do people keep saying this as if it's at all relevant these days? Sure, SE made a ton of money on it in the past, but that doesn't mean it's still raking in tons of cash for them today.

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Well at arr launch the xi servers were running at only 200-300 ppl at peak times but now we are hitting 1k+ again. So yes SE is still making a good chunk of change of xi.

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Originally Posted by Aleksandr

Because when XIV came out their was a discount for playing both games. This ended when XIV went free to play.

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No, no, no. It ended some weeks before old FF XIV got shutdown forever. FF XIV never went f2p, it got an extended free month from first launch 2010 until p2p start january 2012.

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It seems the FF XI discount during FF XIV p2p was only for 3 month

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This perk is a limited-time offer that discounts FINAL FANTASY XI monthly service fees up to three times starting on January 14, 2012.

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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/topics/ffxiv/

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Originally Posted by Altanas

Coming from another angle, I would gladly have paid a few more bucks more had SE found a way to connect both 11 and 14 as one world/parallel world via moghouses as originally envisioned.

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Ya but sadly they ran into a issue that did not allow you to jump from ffxi to ffxiv. I guess they could do it if both games was running in the same engine but sadly there not.