Need a new way to make GC Seals

At the moment GC seals can be made via two methods, running fates and GC leves. One of the main uses of seals other then equipment is the manuals that boost gathering and crafting, so if you'd like to level up a DOL/DOH profession, seals are almost a necessity.

Since, as a gatherer or crafter, leves are too important for us to waste on seals we either have to level up a new character or use an already existing level 50 to grind seals running fate. This really doesn't seem like something that was really thought out.

Are you kidding? Leveling a second DoW job will get you 50000 seals before you hit level 40 without doing any leves.

Oh man you would have hated 1.0! There were so few ways to get seals, and even they rewarded very few.

My biggest gripe with the whole GC seal system is the imbalance in ways to obtain the seals. If I take 2 days to level another job to 40 I'll have 50,000 seals. If I don't level a new job the most seals I'll get is roughly 1,000 a day. No point to turn in expensive products to gain 300ish seals.

Turn in equipment for GC seals. Can even run lowby dungeons while leveling up another class.

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Originally Posted by Alavastre

Turn in equipment for GC seals. Can even run lowby dungeons while leveling up another class.

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This is why I greed everything regardless. The max you can get from an AK drop is like 173 seals, but if everyone is passing on the junk because they have it already or don't want it, you can make out alright during a run.

There are 2 more ways than what you listed.

GC daily supply and provision mission, you get a new one daily for every DoL and DoH class you have, The are like 1 free leve, that gives xp and seals instead of $. For DoH you hand in 1 item chosen at random for your current level range. For DoL you hand in 10, Fish is 5 or 10 depending if it requires mooching or not. Even at low levels doing them all will get you enough to buy the lesser xp book.

Then once you get your GC rank up to the 2nd rank of 2nd tier, you get expert delivery missions. These just let you trade in any pink or green equips for seals.

I personally feel that getting seals is more than easy and there's more than enough methods to get them...plus things that you didn't mention like turning in useless equipment and daily gc class related quests.

I've got plenty of these things and not a lot to spend them on besides maybe those papers that help you level quicker.

Long story short, I don't see the need to add anymore ways of getting these.

I always check the provisions turn ins before I gather or craft for the day. It only takes a minute to get the extra goods and you get DOL/DOH xp with the seals. It's not many seals, but they're practically free. Plus the endless stream of DOW gear I get off greed rolls are turned in.

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Originally Posted by Hobo

My biggest gripe with the whole GC seal system is the imbalance in ways to obtain the seals. If I take 2 days to level another job to 40 I'll have 50,000 seals. If I don't level a new job the most seals I'll get is roughly 1,000 a day. No point to turn in expensive products to gain 300ish seals.

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? How would you obtain 50k seals as a lower level job, but not be able to do the same as a higher level (specifically lv50)? FATEs still reward you seals at 50 if I recall right.

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Originally Posted by MrObject

At the moment GC seals can be made via two methods, running fates and GC leves. One of the main uses of seals other then equipment is the manuals that boost gathering and crafting, so if you'd like to level up a DOL/DOH profession, seals are almost a necessity.

Since, as a gatherer or crafter, leves are too important for us to waste on seals we either have to level up a new character or use an already existing level 50 to grind seals running fate. This really doesn't seem like something that was really thought out.

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The manuals are not meant to be a necessary/mandatory part of your crafting/gathering experience. They are extremely nice, but just like rested exp, are not meant to last forever. You'll have to put in the time if you want that boost, time which could otherwise be spent leveling your craft normally. It's somewhat along the lines of leves. It's your choice to only level through leves, you'll just have to wait for leve refills, which is essentially the same as putting in time to farm seals for the manuals (a certain amount of time until you get the things you want). It's thought out well enough, you just haven't come to terms with it because you view them as mandatory.

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Originally Posted by MrObject

Hand GC seals on a silver plate to me please.

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Correction, you are wrong. There are 4 ways. Other 2 options are dallies crafting collection and turn in rare items.

I don't think the problem is lack of GC's. It's the 20K cap on the GC experience items. 35 to 50 run in the 250K to 500K range. 20K per 1440 seals works out to around 300K seals per gathering class.

3 hrs or 200K would be more in line with leveling in this game. Not 20

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

? How would you obtain 50k seals as a lower level job, but not be able to do the same as a higher level (specifically lv50)? FATEs still reward you seals at 50 if I recall right.

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Yes you can gain seals grinding level 50 fates as a level 50 but that's all you're gaining... I rather take a little longer acquiring those seals while leveling up another class. (2 birds with 1 stone)

I feel like the game awards a decent number of seals as-is. Though, I do feel that dungeons should reward seals. I prefer running dungeons to doing FATEs, so I don't get nearly as many seals as those who just grind FATEs. :(

I think there is a lot of confusion as to what I actually said, so I'll reiterate my earlier post with a bit more clarity. I do understand there are other methods of gaining seals, including the hunting log that none of you even bothered to mention (so three more methods) but if you actually time the amount of seals you get per minute the quickest and most efficient method is to run fates at 50 which is 281 seals per fate.

Sure you can do provisioning or hand in gear but in reality both these methods are a lot less efficient on either time or mats required. So if your looking to maximize the amount of seals obtained the best method is running fates. My entire point wasn't that fate grinding gives too little seals, I actually like the amount of seals I get doing fate grinding, my entire point was, and I quote, "This really doesn't seem like something that was really thought out."

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

I don't think the problem is lack of GC's. It's the 20K cap on the GC experience items. 35 to 50 run in the 250K to 500K range. 20K per 1440 seals works out to around 300K seals per gathering class.

3 hrs or 200K would be more in line with leveling in this game. Not 20

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For one thing, there's a 40k XP boost once you reach the second tier of ranks. For another, 200K is way too much for one item that you can easily get, and is not even mandatory for leveling. For a third, how many people are likely to burn through 200K of what is equivalent to rest XP in 3 hours?

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Originally Posted by Divinemight

I like to quote people and change the quote to something that not only did they not say, but they didn't even imply.

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Correction, you are actually wrong in your correction, there are five ways. Two of which are dailies (not dallies) and turning in rare items, and the last method is the GC hunting log, which you conveniently forgot. Most likely you forgot it while you were sitting on your high horse you had a severe lack of oxygen as the air at that altitude is very thin.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

This is why I greed everything regardless. The max you can get from an AK drop is like 173 seals, but if everyone is passing on the junk because they have it already or don't want it, you can make out alright during a run.

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Yeah guess that makes sense as to why a level 50 war using a relic in a low level dungeon was needing on DoW gear for level 30s that the DRG or ARC/BRD could have actually used (being new and all.)

They definitely need a new way just to keep people from taking gear solely for seal purposes.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

I don't think the problem is lack of GC's. It's the 20K cap on the GC experience items. 35 to 50 run in the 250K to 500K range. 20K per 1440 seals works out to around 300K seals per gathering class.

3 hrs or 200K would be more in line with leveling in this game. Not 20

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The scrolls don't work how you think they work...

They're an additional 50% xp bonus on top of what you get from gathering/crafting, and that bonus is what eats the 20/40k, not the entire xp number.

One of the really messed up parts of seals is that as you level up your DoH it becomes harder to get seals. Sure you get more seals per turn in but when you need a combine that needs 35 shards and usually a rare ingredient or two, there's no way it's worth the effort to get all that stuff compared say turning in something that's made with 2 iron bars. I haven't turned in any level 50 DoH stuff because it wouldn't be worth it. Of course I have no particular need for seals at this point, but it's still pretty dumb.