Please Don't Buy Accounts: QQ Thread Warning

Seriously Guys, if you want to by an account so you can "play" at least take a bit of time to learn abilities and stuff.

Yesterday in the few CM runs I came across.

Pld in full DL, does not know how to tank, where to tank, when pressed by players in the grp, claims he is new. Close to 1 hour run for funz :mad:

At the cannon phase of Livia fight, Livia left with a silver of health, cannon loaded, DL/Relic Brd, do not know how to use the cannon. Seriously! :confused:

DL/Relic Mnk that likes pull and aggro everything. Combo rotation seems so marco base, same combo everywhere.

Maybe I'm the unlucky one that got to witness peeps like these. Makes me want to punch a Lalafell.

Sell "life like" Lalafell punching bags made from lalafell hide100% environmental friendly materials, 800gil, PST

/popcorn ??

It is possible he is new 50 to tanking. Its not hard to have full DL before you are lvl50 on second job.

If you have proof they bought their accounts off other players report them; its a violation of Square's ToS. Other than that not much that can be done about incompetent pugs.

selling accounts is a violation of the TOS anyway, and can lead to that account being banned, much to the idsmay of the buyer.

bound to happen when Square doesn't acknowledge EXP problems leveling alts...

FATE spamming all the way to 50 is why people don't know how to play their class properly.

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Originally Posted by eyloi

/popcorn ??

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She wants to punch us! Let us hide!
-Grabs him an hides under a box;
Shhh.

I do dungeon runs in between fate spamming just to get used to the new role that I'm lvling at the time, spamming fates is to get into harder dungeons so I can really test my abilities as that role. So far I am an ok tank and a decent healer.

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Originally Posted by Arriverderci

She wants to punch us! Let us hide!
-Grabs him an hides under a box;
Shhh.

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No need to hide. We're strong enough to take her.

.. but just to be on the safe side, you go first..

And it starts. God forbid if someone is new to a class and joins your CM speedrun because you used DF.

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Originally Posted by SukoshiSeppen

It is possible he is new 50 to tanking. Its not hard to have full DL before you are lvl50 on second job.

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Total for DL hands, body and legs is around 2k stones, so unless they AFK, all the way while doing CM for 20times. I mean seriously, I don't main Tank a lot by I learned how to tank by looking at how tanks do it, before I even try. As you said, second job, high chance there is a first job that is equally geared, that means more then 20 times doing CM, AK, WP.

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Originally Posted by eyloi

No need to hide. We're strong enough to take her.

.. but just to be on the safe side, you go first..

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No.. I wouldn't hurt you guys (^_^) I'm non-violent.

*hint* Highlight my post for the best offers.

This is from the perspective of someone who has played a tank, and is currently trying to level a DPS class.

I've read up on tanking, I learnt how to tank properly, and I levelled mainly off dungeons. The only time I actively levelled via FATEs was 47 - 49, because I could never get a party for Aurum Vale via DF, and once I hit 49, I did not feel like doing Aurum Vale ever.

However, now I'm levelling a Black Mage as an option for DPS-ing, and because I have a full set of AK BLM gear and a Garuda BLM staff. And here's my problem - Duty Finder solo queue takes like 75 minutes for me to get a party for Haukke Manor (and we were still missing a tank at this point, I eventually decided to give up and go to bed).

In that 75 minutes, there isn't much to do. Crafting? Perhaps. FATE-ing? Can't do that unless you're in a party - Quarrymill/Dragonhead FATE's just go down too fast, I'd get in a few hits, and only end up in Silver anyway. In fact, I decided to craft while waiting, that after about 40 minutes in, I'd forgot that I even queued for Haukke Manor.

I fear (and know) I am probably going to hit Lv50 on my BLM, and not even know how to play my class properly outside of Blizzard II spams. But what choice do I have, when I don't have 75 minutes to spend waiting for a dungeon queue? While I can wait the full duration, but in between I always get requests from friends/FC/LS to help them tank WP/AK. Do I leave my queue, where I've been waiting for 60 minutes, to help them tank a dungeon we'd insta-pop, or to continue waiting for the tank/healer spot that never looks like it will ever be filled?

I am too used to 10 second queues, and playing DPS now reminded me why I didn't roll a DPS as my first class. Until DPS queues are significantly shorter (I don't mind waiting, say 5 to 10 minutes), I don't think I'll ever get to run a dungeon as a DPS, unless I have a lot of time to burn waiting for a DF queue to pop. Probably doesn't help that the people I know I can group with are already mostly Lv50, and farming for mytho tomestones.

Don't worry Lalafells! I'll protect you!

to assume that gear = skill would be a grave mistake

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Originally Posted by juniglee

I am too used to 10 second queues, and playing DPS now reminded me why I didn't roll a DPS as my first class. Until DPS queues are significantly shorter (I don't mind waiting, say 5 to 10 minutes), I don't think I'll ever get to run a dungeon as a DPS, unless I have a lot of time to burn waiting for a DF queue to pop. Probably doesn't help that the people I know I can group with are already mostly Lv50, and farming for mytho tomestones.

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Problem is, that will likely never happen. To get that to happen, people playing DD classes would need to play Tank/Healer. Otherwise there will pretty much always be too many and the queue will be long. The other option, group with a tank/healer.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Don't worry Lalafells! I'll protect you!

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@OP, you do realize that your target audience would need to have already bought their accounts in order to read this?

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Originally Posted by ispano

Problem is, that will likely never happen. To get that to happen, people playing DD classes would need to play Tank/Healer. Otherwise there will pretty much always be too many and the queue will be long. The other option, group with a tank/healer.

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I know...wishful thinking on my part I guess.

Unfortunately, the tanks/healers I do know are all Level 50, with relic/DL gears. There is no reason to ask them to follow me to a low level dungeon. I believe it's definitely easier for me to find a party as a DPS when I'm 50, since there's more people running those contents, than I am to find a party for Haukke or Brayflox.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Don't worry Lalafells! I'll protect you!

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*cough* Ok

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*while stocks last

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Originally Posted by Eldarion18

@OP, you do realize that your target audience would need to have already bought their accounts in order to read this?

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Yeah that is why its a QQ thread :(

Well just from trading in a small % of the armour I had with cracked material from 1.0 I had roughly 800tomes which bought me the gloves and had a bit left over. I haven't touched the story past level 15 or so, so I`d Imagine its not impossible for others to get the whole set and not know what they`re doing. it doesn't mean they bought an account

When some people level alts, they farm out their DL on their Main first, then level them to 50. By the time they get them to 50 they have full DL on them. So basically they hit 50, already have DL and 900 philo for relic and go straight through the relic quest. Then when they run crap they run with whatever they are the least bored with. Thus it's possible he is new to tanking and did not buy his account because you can level to 50 on a tank just by using provoke and flash twice and getting gold on every fate.

Also, people not knowing CM doesn't mean they bought accounts either. People that were leveling to 50 before they nerfed Speed Runs got full DL without doing any CM except for once for story mode and people in story mode for the first time might not have learned much (carried etc). I had full DL and some AF2 on my tank and never ran CM except for story mode. Then when I needed a lot of philo I learned CM speed runs, I had people like you telling me I bought my account... When I did not. I've been on this guy since p2 beta, 1.0, and FFXI.

For my DL we ran AK, non Stop. We got the runs down to 25 mins or less, after the speed run patch, which was (before the last hotfix) about the same time it took to complete CM and we got myth. After the hotfix, WP is now the fastest way to get 100 philo. We can run WP in 15 minutes.

I actually have no idea how to use the cannons in CM. When I ran it for the story I tried to use them but couldn't make them work, and I haven't been back since.

ppl still farm tome in CM !?

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

ppl still farm tome in CM !?

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Not me, WP is sooooo much faster. Get a PLD in Relic/Af1.5/alagan and some relic + 1 dps and a healer and just pull everything to the first door, kill boss. Pull everything to first 2 tonberries kill. Pull everything to skeletons in room kill. Pull everything to 3rd switch, go inside switch, kill trash. Pull 2nd boss. Pull everything to tonberries again, kill, kill last boss. 15 minutes with a good group which is 400 philo an hour. With peacock ores at 45k, that's 112k an hour.

It is feasible to say he could have a high level of another job and farmed tomes on that class and bought his DL before getting his tank to level 50 and fate ground to 50. Still I'd assume he at least noticed other tanks and how they position mobs. A little reading of the tooltips gives a good idea as to what you should be using..

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Originally Posted by Animation

And it starts. God forbid if someone is new to a class and joins your CM speedrun because you used DF.

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What....... o_O If you have made it to lvl 50 you should not be "new to a class", you have had 49 levels to become acquainted with your class. If you have spent all that time spamming fates then at least research your class before jumping into a high lvl dungeon. I dont mind teaching someone how a dungeon works but im not about to start telling you to play your class at that stage of the game.

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Originally Posted by Alexb150

Well just from trading in a small % of the armour I had with cracked material from 1.0 I had roughly 800tomes which bought me the gloves and had a bit left over. I haven't touched the story past level 15 or so, so I`d Imagine its not impossible for others to get the whole set and not know what they`re doing. it doesn't mean they bought an account

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We had a member from our FC with enough melded gear to get a full DL set. So it is conceivable (although unlikely) that someone could be full DL and Relic w/o having touched 2.0 endgame. They could have had all of it from 1.0 and took their time getting through the story. However, I find this to be quite unlikely.

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Originally Posted by NZ_Player

to assume that gear = skill would be a grave mistake

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Good luck convincing the vast, vast majority ♥

Considering it's entirely possible to acquire darklight for all classes using just one class, it's entirely possible that the tank used a different class to gear up that class, and fate-grinded it to 50, meaning they learned next to nothing about tanking on the way up and only saw dungeons as gear/slow exp and not a way to teach you how to play (dispite yoshi-p himself saying that the content from 1-50 was in truth one big tutorial)

Sure, it's possible he bought his account, but my first assumption would be that he didn't think he needed to practice tanking on the beginner level dungeons first (which is what I've been dabbling in when I feel like playing Gld or Mrd).

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Originally Posted by Seig345

Considering it's ....(dispite yoshi-p himself saying that the content from 1-50 was in truth one big tutorial).

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It teaches ppl how to play. The problem is ppl don't see it. They see only exp and big numbers.

Its like everyone just want to reach the end game thinking they can "learn" later.

When ppl start asking, claims eiltism of other players.

OP, I haven't read the entire thread and I'm sure someone has already pointed this out, but just incase they haven't.

I see that you're from Masamune, which is a legacy server. Which means you could be playing with a legacy player from 1.0 who already had their gear and job/class leveled at 50. Sounds great doesn't it? Well, a bit of insight from 1.0 player, the jobs changed a lot from 1.0. I personally have to relearn all my jobs that I had leveled at 50, and I'm fully geared, and have all my abilities (barring the ones I have to redo because of the job quest line). So, instead of learning the job as everyone else who is starting at level 1, we are presented with all our abilities and have to make heads or tails about it. It's been a fun mess relearning a capped job. lol

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Well, a bit of insight from 1.0 player, the jobs changed a lot from 1.0. I personally have to relearn all my jobs that I had leveled at 50, and I'm fully geared, and have all my abilities (barring the ones I have to redo because of the job quest line). So, instead of learning the job as everyone else who is starting at level 1, we are presented with all our abilities and have to make heads or tails about it. It's been a fun mess relearning a capped job. lol

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I was using DF. I actually went through redo the class and job quests and solo mobs to get a feel for my Mnk, Pld, War and Blm. Make sure I get to know what is going on, play dungeons as my Sch and observe how players play their jobs before I DF or play with my FC using the said jobs.

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

FATE spamming all the way to 50 is why people don't know how to play their class properly.

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This. I have a friend who FATE grinded to 50 and then proceeded to tank AK. (had already hoarded some gear from previous runs on his main job) It was pretty messy.

This is why I take the time to run a dungeon I'm of level for at least once while I'm doing FATEs so I actually know how to play my job. For me, I feel it's easier to learn your class progressively than to just level it up to 50 pushing one button the whole time and then trying to go back and figure out how everything works together.

This is not always true. I had all level 50's when 1.0 was over. I had to relearn each job myself when 2.0 started.

Same. I'm in the painful process of relearning all my jobs. I've only gotten to the point where I'm comfortable with bard. I dread trying to relearn a close-range dps or healer. I'm semi-competent with paladin now but dear god I can't make heads or tails of warrior yet.