What's Next? Story/Level/Class?

Main story completed, AWESOME! And there's still a lot to do, but I notice that the HCs are almost done maxing out all classes. IMO, the story was left open ended, so what next?

Picture this... a NEW continent, main town, added race, and new jobs: Thief(Blade), Gunner(Gun), Beast Master(Whip), Farming(Food/Animal). Leading to adv jobs: Ninja(Duel Weld/Throw), Samurai(Blade/Katana), Cannoneer(Big Gun), Blue Mage(Whips/Beast Arts). Potential master jobs: Dark Knight, Holy Dragoon, Defender, Assassin, Seer, Sage, Illusionist? New lands, missions, dungeons, enemies, bosses, weapons, loots, relics, minions, added story, level cap increase + HRS of game play!

There's so much more Square can add to the world of EORZA, why wouldn't they? Would you purchase an in-game add if the options above were available? Would you subscribe for a longer period of time, with more incentive items? Given XIV:ARR is still young, and already so EPIC, I know I would! What do you guys think?

Again, this is all my imagination running wild... no rumors!

some of your ideas are amazing... but no to "Advanced jobs IMO

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Originally Posted by akimojo

Picture this... a NEW continent, main town, added race, and new jobs: Thief(Blade), Gunner(Gun), Beast Master(Whip), Farming(Food/Animal). Leading to adv jobs: Ninja(Duel Weld/Throw), Samurai(Blade/Katana), Cannoneer(Big Gun), Blue Mage(Whips/Beast Arts). Potential master jobs: Dark Knight, Holy Dragoon, Defender, Assassin, Seer, Sage, Illusionist? New lands, missions, dungeons, enemies, bosses, weapons, loots, relics, minions, added story, level cap increase + HRS of game play

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/108086
new main story........not many info for now

atleast its something for now
idk about adv job/master job but new job will need dual job requirement to unlock (already mention somewhere)

Well I remember reading about Ishgard opening up at some point. So hopefully a good amount lore follows for that.

Would love to finally explore Ishgard at some point, been hoping to ever since I saw it in 1.0.

Hoping to see more lore come to light on the Garleans. How did they become how they are? Is there a darker intent behind the invasion or is it invasions just to take.

Less primals, more Garleans imo XD.

Sapphic, the main FFXIV website goes into a bit of detail about the history of the Garlean Empire, and actually how they're connected to the Primals: http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/wor...hreats/content

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Originally Posted by Final Fantasy XIV Website

Garlean Empire

The Garlean Empire controls the majority of the Three Great Continents, the enormous landmass that encompasses Eorzea. Until some fifty years ago, Garlemald was a remote and sparsely populated nation which held little more than a fraction of the northern continent of Ilsabard. But with the arrival of a technological golden age and the concurrent emergence of a brilliant young legatus—now the reigning emperor—in the span of a single generation Garlemald established itself as one of the most formidable forces in all of Hydaelyn.

Garlemald is unsurpassed in the field of magitek, a technology which it exploits with devastating effectiveness in warfare. Unperturbed by their lesser numbers, the Garleans went forth upon gigantic flying warships, bearing powerful weaponry the likes of which the world had never seen. One nation after the next fell before their relentless onslaught, first those of the northlands, followed by the sovereign states of the eastern continent, Othard. Employing suppression and conciliation in equal measure, Garlemald indoctrinated the peoples it conquered, thus integrating them into its ever-expanding territory. So it was that the Garlean Empire came into existence.

In the year 1557 of the Sixth Astral Era, a mere thirty-six years from the Empire's founding, the Garleans brought their campaign of conquest to Eorzea, swiftly bringing the city-state of Ala Mhigo to its knees. Yet following the subjugation of Ala Mhigo, the Empire suddenly ceased its aggressive expansion.

For more than a decade, the continent of Aldenard knew relative peace. In the year 1572, however, the Garlean army once again began its inexorable advance. Using the calamitous arrival of the Seventh Umbral Era to sinister advantage, the Empire prepares to gather the lands of Eorzea into its steely embrace...

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First Emperor of Garlemald His Radiance, Solus zos Galvus

Born of distinguished lineage in the Garlemald Republic, Solus zos Galvus began his military career at a young age. After a string of impressive victories on the field of battle, however, he soon attained the rank of Legatus, and proceeded to integrate machina technology into the army's regular rank and file. With single-minded determination, Galvus transformed his fledgling nation into a formidable military power.
His actions garnered the undivided support of the citizenry, and catapulted him into the position of Dictator, supreme commander of Garlemald. In the years that followed, Garlean forces conquered all the lands of the north and hammered them into a single entity. Galvus then instituted an imperial regime to govern their new territories, conferring upon himself the title of "Emperor."
The eastern nations were the first to feel the newborn empire's mighty fist. It was during this campaign that the emperor witnessed firsthand the destruction wrought by the primals—an experience that led to an imperial mandate for their annihilation.
Now an old man of more than eighty winters, Galvus yet rules as emperor, but court rumors speak of frail health and frequent illness.

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So yeah, the Empire's backstory is easily found, but I agree I'd like the narrative to take more of an interest in what even 1.0's original storyline was leading up to be the main antagonists for the game.

As much as new continent would be great, there's still much left to be explored within Eorzea.

I'd like access to Ishgard, to liberate Ala Mhigo, and uncover more about the Circle of Knowing in Sharlayan.
Of course, I'd like to infiltrate the Empire as well.
Not necessarily to fight them on their own turf, but certainly to recon or acquire their Gunblades. :)

There's a lot to do yet within the known world. There isn't a reason to extend beyond it, yet.

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Originally Posted by Kirosuu

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/108086
new main story........not many info for now

atleast its something for now
idk about adv job/master job but new job will need dual job requirement to unlock (already mention somewhere)

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Sweet! Yes, I agree! What I meant with the advanced/master classes were... unlocking them the same way we do now, just with more classes as a requirement. I was limited to 1000 words when I posted, and had to cut half my description. Thinking about it more, it's probably best to keep level cap at 50 for now and add more classes! I get so excited when I think of all the possibilities!

I still thinkt he Garleans are the good guys. I really dig their nietzschean denial of teh authority of gods--just primals for the adventurer races-- and would love to fight and kill them.

Want a chance to change sides.

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Until some fifty years ago, Garlemald was a remote and sparsely populated nation which held little more than a fraction of the northern continent of Ilsabard. But with the arrival of a technological golden age and the concurrent emergence of a brilliant young legatus—now the reigning emperor—in the span of a single generation Garlemald established itself as one of the most formidable forces in all of Hydaelyn.

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Such expansions are very rare and considering the alliance struck between Gaius and Lahabrea, one does wonder...

I suspect Garlemald's rapid expansion was initiated and supported by the Ascians. It is a part of their plan to awake their God. If so, it is only natural that we visit the territories the Empire conquered and their homeland.

Although, if this is true, I do have to wonder if the Ascians have ever tried to steer history's course before. Maybe they had a hand in all those great civilizations and cataclysms.

In the same vein as "there's more to do in Eorzea," if you look at the map, it's broken down into several regions. Five of the seven are currently available, and Coerthas has not yet to open it's city-state. Mor Dhona and Coerthas seem to be massive "central" zones, whereas the other regions have multiple zones with city anchors.

I imagine that the first thing SE will do after getting all of that squared away is open Dravania (home to the abandoned city-state of Sharlayan and under the control of a horde of angry dragons) or Gyr Abania (home to the city-state of Ala Mhigo and currently under the control of Garlemald).

With Gaius dead(?), Ala Mhigo is down a Viceroy, so I imagine now would be a good time to take back our city-state and kick them the hell off our continent... but then again, Ishgard looks stretched to the brink of collapse, maybe it would be more prudent to push back the dragons and refortify the front lines while Ala Mhigo reorganizes...

Decisions, decisions...

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Originally Posted by PiedPiper

I still thinkt he Garleans are the good guys. I really dig their nietzschean denial of teh authority of gods--just primals for the adventurer races-- and would love to fight and kill them.

Want a chance to change sides.

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Good guys... riiight... tell that to

all the Scions Livia and her troops slaughtered in cold blood inside the Waking Sands simply in pursuit of the player - her own troops were clearly shown brutally butchering the victims, and Livia herself showed a real sadistic streak, shooting dead an already defeated Scion in the back, and saying she couldn't wait "to hear her scream" when she interrogates Minfilia.

This isn't a case of just 'two sides holding opposing views' - the fact is the Empire is evil, they're hellbent on conquest, and had no qualms about wiping Eorzea and everyone in it off the map completely with Dalamud. There's just sadly too many people in denial about this.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

*snip* Dravania (home to the abandoned city-state of Sharlayan and under the control of a horde of angry dragons) or Gyr Abania (home to the city-state of Ala Mhigo and currently under the control of Garlemald).

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That really got me thinking Anonymoose. I'd have to imagine that new City-States would be implemented through expansions, but which ones would be added? I was trying to think of a good reason to add either of these other than story and I looked at it in terms of classes/jobs that arguably could be added by the same means. Which would bring more of an opportunity to add one or two classes/jobs, admittedly I've forgotten much about Ala Mhigo/Gyr Abania in this regards culture other than Monks which are already in game. But when it comes to Ishgard/Dravania, Ishgard more in particular they are very religious and have a sort of knighthood. Something in terms of Templars or even Dark Knights could roll out of this scheme. And to expand, Sharlayan, which falls in dragon lands (Ishgard hates dragons), would be very capable of incorporating a new mage type.

I think that the story will expand into the Little Almigho (spelling) and us going back to push the invasion back and return the refugees back to their homeland. This was kind of hinted at in the story-line. While they could open Ishgard, I think this would be opened maybe right before the release (relatively speaking) that will lead into the xpac. Though I could see thief being released with the whole idea of a counter insurgent culture in occupied territory, sniper/musketeer works too with the idea of Garlean resistance. Then with the opening of Ishgard, access to the DRK class/job. Maybe the lore behind the DRK will be that there are a specialized group of warriors that must be distinguished enough to be invited to the ranks. It just seems Ishgard should be more of an xpac vs a simple content update

It's been a while since the last post, lots have happened since last year. I'm loving it so far! Exciting new 2.2 update coming up! On that note, I decided to add some possible ideas that I've been pondering about.
Picture this, new dark land to explore, new missions, characters, and dark class! Introduce a Thief/Blades class which then feeds into new jobs, Sniper/Gun(THF/ARC)-range dps, Ninja/Duel Kodachi(THF/PUG)-melee dps, Samurai/Katana(THF/GLD)-tank, Dancer/Whip(THF/CON)-support dps, Time Mage/Orb(THF/THM)-Heal/dps, maybe even an Engineer/Hammer(THF/MAR)-dps/machine summon... again, this is just my imagination running wild...
What do you guys think? I definitely would like to see at least 1 more job in each category...

I know EVERYONE is so gung ho on the Thief Idea.... I don't get it. Ever since Locke in FF6 Thief is a stupid job. It was cool in FFXI as a positional melee, but we already have two of those.... The most redeeming trait of the Thief class is the ability to sneak/mug/steal.... but gil is meaningless in XIV so again.... pointless.

Real jobs please!!

Dark Knight/ Samurai/ Red Mage/ Oracle

I'd love for there to be a necromancer type class derived from acn.

It seems appropriate due to the poisonous nature of thier attacks

Wish we had the option to repeat quests/storyline on all classes.....

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

Wish we had the option to repeat quests/storyline on all classes.....

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I've wished that before, as well, to just be able to open your journal and go to the quest you want in the COMPLETED tab and hit like, "Reflag as Free Play," lol. All the dialogue, cutscenes, and battles as if it was the first time. Probably way too much work for them to set up, even for the player time sink. Doomed to relive via YouTube!

As a not-so-closeted romantic I'd really like to see the Gladiator quest line picked back up. I feel very "left hanging" when it comes to Mylla and Aldis's story. Not to mention (he mentions) dear K'hylia and her vagabond Guildmaster; and just for the pure noble heck of it all, more encounters with the Wandering Paladin, Solkzagyl...

To be honest, I was actually quite disappointed with how the class quests were handled in ARR compared to 1.0 - especially the GLA quests. In 1.0 the GLA class quests actually dealt with the player not only fighting NPC challengers in the Colleseum (yes, actually in the arena!), the story dealt with the ongoing contempt and resentment the Ala Mhigan refugee population face from the Ul'dahns, how they fight in the Colleseum to not only salvage some form of pride in themselves, to also raise money to assist in their fellow countrymen in escaping from Garlean oppression, to assist them in settling in Eorzea's citystates, and to even help fund the ongoing Resistance. As well, the game also used the Echo to uncover information needed in the quest by viewing the memories of npcs involved. I actually felt like my character really was a GLA after completing that quest line.

The ARR GLA quests however, I was disappointed to see that not only was the original GLA Guildmaster replaced (the Guildmaster in 1.0 was a lalafell named Yoyobina, and no explanation at all is given as to what happened to him or why he's been replaced by a Highlander girl), the whole storyline simply revolved around a grudge between two GLAs who I had never even heard of. Plus GLAs seemed to be depicted not as prize fighters in the Colleseum, but as some kind of ad-hoc police force. The whole questline just seemed stupid to me. I don't know, maybe if I hadn't done the original 1.0 GLA class quests it would have been better, but as it stands, it just seemed a letdown to me. But ah well.

On the Ala Mhigan subject, the Main Scenario now serves that purpose instead. The point of the class quests is to go into their own stories and backgrounds, ones that will transcend changes in the outside world. Say that, for example, Ala Mhigo is taken back later in the main scenario - you need to make sure that these quests will still make sense irrespective of when you complete them relative to the main scenario.

This is probably also why Colbernoux and F'lhamin were removed from the Weaver and Goldsmith quests - their affairs are now being engaged through the main scenario.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Aldis again in a future job quest.

That's true. I guess I was just disappointed none of the GLA quests actually involved what the whole class is about -ala, fighting in the arena (but then, I guess that's what the Wolf's Den is for ;)).

Moose its more than five out of seven. In addition there is Xelphatol, a region of mountains and cliffs and valleys; as well as Paglth'an - a sananah it would seem; & then there are the island chains of the Cieldalaes. Heck the island chain alone could comprise of three zones. Think ffxi introducing Buburimu or Tavnazia all on the same continent.

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Originally Posted by SkyHighDN

I know EVERYONE is so gung ho on the Thief Idea.... I don't get it. Ever since Locke in FF6 Thief is a stupid job. It was cool in FFXI as a positional melee, but we already have two of those.... The most redeeming trait of the Thief class is the ability to sneak/mug/steal.... but gil is meaningless in XIV so again.... pointless.

Real jobs please!!

Dark Knight/ Samurai/ Red Mage/ Oracle

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I've asked this of my very thief/scout excited friends. In ffxiv's very quick paced style, with zero need for a dps puller and no need to camp xp, and dungeons becoming well trained, repetitive rote what is the point of a scout/thief? I'm asking seriously, I'd like to become excited about the meaningful concept.

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Originally Posted by Wadoka

As a not-so-closeted romantic I'd really like to see the Gladiator quest line picked back up. I feel very "left hanging" when it comes to Mylla and Aldis's story. Not to mention (he mentions) dear K'hylia and her vagabond Guildmaster; and just for the pure noble heck of it all, more encounters with the Wandering Paladin, Solkzagyl...

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I second that! I assumed that it would be continued when the level cap was raised, if not sooner.

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Originally Posted by RolandDebreton

Moose its more than five out of seven. In addition there is Xelphatol, a region of mountains and cliffs and valleys; as well as Paglth'an - a sananah it would seem; & then there are the island chains of the Cieldalaes. Heck the island chain alone could comprise of three zones. Think ffxi introducing Buburimu or Tavnazia all on the same continent.

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Looking at it again, I might even lower the number, lol. Based on the language clues, I've just taken it for granted that three of those regions are Beast Tribe Strongholds that are being held back for high-level content: Xelphatol (Ixal), Paglth'an (Amalj'aa), and O'Ghomoro (Kobold). The Sahagin likely have one that's off the main map and beneath the waves of the Rhotano Sea / Indigo Deep, the Sylphs don't seem to have built one, being new to the aggressive expansion game, and, as far as we know, the Gigants(?) haven't summoned Shiva, yet.

At least, that's the balance I'm seeing on the map, there are, of course, other interpretations.

When I gave the ratio, I meant that, when you take the above into account, it seems likely that the ruins of (Sharlayan + Dravania) and (Ala Migho + Gyr Abania) seem to be the two remaining groups akin to (Ishgard + Coerthas), (Limsa Lominsa + La Nosca), (Ul'dah + Thanalan), and (Gridania + The Black Shroud). Seems more like 4/6 + the great tribe cities.

We briefly visited the Cieldalaes in Version 1.0 and they were quite small. There's not much to explore at all; they were just battlegrounds used by the Maelstrom to train recruits. I wouldn't be surprised to see it as a PVP zone.

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Originally Posted by SkyHighDN

I know EVERYONE is so gung ho on the Thief Idea.... I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by RolandDebreton

with zero need for a dps puller and no need to camp xp, and dungeons becoming well trained, repetitive rote what is the point of a scout/thief?

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Yoshi-P has all but beaten us over the head with a macuahuitl that has a flag attached to it saying, "MUSKETEER AND A SCOUT CLASS ARE BASICALLY OBLIGATIONS FOR THE FIRST EXPANSION" at this point. When you strip away the parts of THF that are best fit for solo play and ignore that it a great camp puller in FFXI, there are a few assumptions about it that could be fairly made.

• A "striking" class (as opposed to maiming, aiming, fending, etc.).
• Based in high skill-speed and combos
• From a class that serves as a foundation for dual wielding
• Focused on enmity manipulation and high-damage combo finishers...

More or less, some people just want to play a job that feels like thief. </shrug>

At this point, my imagination makes it sound like MNK, but building to hard hitters instead of maintaining steady damage, using positioning and timing instead of debuffs and stacks. Perhaps THF has a lot of hate generation attached to it and will actually take hate and die / kill others if it doesn't position and distract properly. It'd be one of the few jobs capable of attacking from the front with its high evasion and trick attack. Perhaps some attacks have to come from behind the tank.

The only thing that's unclear is what makes it thiefly. Mobs hit by thieves in dungeons drop more gil? Small chance for chests to drop two items? Treasure Hunter for farming mats? Stealing as luck-based mechanism where what you steal influences what combo branches you can move through? I'm still holding out hope for them to bring back Chemist - maybe the "scout/rogue thing" can be a job brancher and we'll get something a la Rikku from FFX. I loved that MNK + THF + CHM mix.

I digress...

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

"MUSKETEER AND A SCOUT CLASS ARE BASICALLY OBLIGATIONS FOR THE FIRST EXPANSION" at this point....."

"More or less, some people just want to play a job that feels like thief. </shrug>....."

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This is exactly what I'm thinking about it. Having said so, its fine, this is the Final Fantasy fan service. I just hope they do make it its own thing.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

what makes it thiefly. Mobs hit by thieves in dungeons drop more gil? Small chance for chests to drop two items? Treasure Hunter for farming mats? Stealing as luck-based mechanism where what you steal influences what combo branches you can move through?

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I am hoping they allow dynamics like this, but I'm terrified we'll fall back into our same mistakes from XI where some poor schlub becomes the token, "Thief" on the off chance he'll get them an extra drop from the BC chest, and aside from a gimmick or two the job is just a terrible DPS.

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Originally Posted by RolandDebreton

I am hoping they allow dynamics like this, but I'm terrified we'll fall back into our same mistakes from XI

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They've been pretty good about making the classes have balanced usefulness if you play them well and don't stack all the same job. Needless to say, though, a lot of people are waiting for jobs like RDM, THF, and SAM, and Team Yoshi-P have shown that if the classic feel of the class doesn't have as much use as it once did in MMOs, that they're not afraid to shake it up. Not everyone is going to be pleased. The big one I'm worried about is Red Mage. It has to be in the game at some point. It's a major FF identity, but in XI they completely ruined the aspect of a magic-based front-line "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" DPS and made it a God.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

the whole storyline simply revolved around a grudge between two GLAs who I had never even heard of

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Trust me. GLA is LEAGUES better than LNC... Of the classes I've played through... Lancer is the worst. So far, PUG is the best. I really liked the MRD story in 1.0 and I REALLY wanted to find out what happened next when it cut off....

LNC story in a nutshell: Courage blah blah you must temper your courage blah blah level 30 The villain is finally given a motive, then you kill him. Seriously the whole time it's Part A: go do something to show your courage, then Part B: some dumb lancers got caught up with the bad guy go save them. That's 5-25. 30 is the ONLY one that's different. In contrast, the DRG story is actually interesting.

I will say that I like the CNJ story up to where I am. I like the story revolving around the little girl. Really, it makes me think she's got some power related to the original THM. Her healing is Sacrifice, not cure.... But I don't know if that's covered yet. I'm only up to level 15 on it.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

We briefly visited the Cieldalaes in Version 1.0 and they were quite small. There's not much to explore at all; they were just battlegrounds used by the Maelstrom to train recruits. I wouldn't be surprised to see it as a PVP zone.

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Well, we do know that the rich and gregarious Gegeruju has a holiday home in the Cieldalaes. And there must be some sort of township or community: Gegeruju's chef is a native of the region and has recipes which were developed from the native flora of the Cieldalaes (information from Botanist leves in Costa Del Sol, as listed in the Wider World of Hydaelyn thread).

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

and, as far as we know, the Gigants(?) haven't summoned Shiva, yet.

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Woah there, buddy. We don't know what is summoning Shiva yet. The Mor Dhona sidequests show the gigants consider the crystal tower sacred. I think there is definitely something going on there, but it's not Shiva.

I seem to recall a dev/loc member saying at some point that the tribe summoning Shiva was not yet in the game (I'll see if I can find it), so that is why my money is currently on the people of Doma, Othard.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

I seem to recall a dev/loc member saying at some point that the tribe summoning Shiva was not yet in the game (I'll see if I can find it), so that is why my money is currently on the people of Doma, Othard.

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Hence the question mark; I haven't seen any indication that gives one theory credence over another, considering Shiva's a ways away. Gigants are just kind of my mental place-holder considering they're a beast tribe from a snowy region of aether-rich Eorzea, the last room of Copperbell is the Cold Throne, and Crystal Tower looks like a giant icicle. As you say, though, that interview quote swiftly tosses that theory out if we can find it.

The Garlean Empire was able to conquer all of Othard without ever seeing a primal (getting my damn continents confused again, lol); do you figure that's why the Doma have come to Eorzea? That quote you mentioned refers to a beast tribe, no? So the Doma are a "beast tribe" as opposed to a "civilized race?" Perhaps feigning the seeking of asylum in hopes of settling enough of their tribe on Eorzean soil to summon one of these mythical demigods capable of felling Imperial plans? How do you get her home? What about all the poor souls who've already decided that they're bunny girls? If you're right, and birds are associated with the air, salamanders with fire, and moles with earth... what creatures are associated with ice (SNOW BUNNIES!)? Perhaps we can figure out what's under that cowl in terms of your theory. <cracks open Pliny the Ender's Naturalis Historia>

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

The Garlean Empire was able to conquer all of Othard without ever seeing a primal.

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I feel bad doing this...

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Originally Posted by Offical website, description of Emperor zos Galvus

The eastern nations were the first to feel the newborn empire's mighty fist. It was during this campaign that the emperor witnessed firsthand the destruction wrought by the primals—an experience that led to an imperial mandate for their annihilation.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

That quote you mentioned refers to a beast tribe, no? So the Doma are a "beast tribe" as opposed to a "civilized race?" If you're right, and birds are associated with the air, salamanders with fire, and moles with earth... what creatures are associated with ice (SNOW BUNNIES!)? Perhaps we can figure out what's under that cowl in terms of your theory. <cracks open Pliny the Ender's Naturalis Historia>

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That is the idea I'm running with. The Doma lady is certainly dressed warmly. Penguins?

We also need to recall Minfilia's approach to the "beast" tribes, wishing we could all get along. It would be a magnificent plot point if she had befriended an untempered member of Shiva's tribe.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

I feel bad doing this...

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Bah, been too long since I picked up the Raven's tomes. Getting my Ilsabard and Othard mixed up again, lol. Okay, reset button: this plays back to why it was important that the Raven piece couldn't claim that all of Othard was conquered - a few nations on the far eastern shores held out. This makes sense then. Still digging into what the tribe could be based on.

Gonna take a while for me to get over the idea of a lob-eared snow bunny, which would be the best race to summon Shiva ever

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Woah there, buddy. We don't know what is summoning Shiva yet. The Mor Dhona sidequests show the gigants consider the crystal tower sacred. I think there is definitely something going on there, but it's not Shiva.

I seem to recall a dev/loc member saying at some point that the tribe summoning Shiva was not yet in the game (I'll see if I can find it), so that is why my money is currently on the people of Doma, Othard.

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I had a brief encounter with a GM in the guise of Kipih Jakkya in 1.0 as some friends and I stood in the Emerald Exchange in Ul'dah. They began asking us about a northern tribe of giants who seemed to be intent upon summoning a primal with a, "most icy disposition." They also started to hint about the Imperials and Primals as I chatted with them about, "hating" the Imperial menace. I began to banter with them about journeys trying to take a very RP lean, playing along in an effort to find more info.

Unfortunately this was Durandal, and it happened to be near the, "standing grounds" of a good many so-called elite LS. They began to mock and ask stupid very unrelated questions, and the GM excused themselves before I could get them to tell me much more.

It is my understanding that that same week several other individuals on a variety of servers received some news about an icy primal and a massive/giant beastman tribe. I have never doubted that we would have a giant tribe of beastmen after that encounter. After I first saw the Gigants I knew fairly well these were likely our culprits. I wish I'd taken screenies but alas.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Gonna take a while for me to get over the idea of a lob-eared snow bunny, which would be the best race to summon Shiva ever

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Does this help?

http://gifts.worldwildlife.org/gift-...guin-photo.jpg

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Originally Posted by RolandDebreton

They began asking us about a northern tribe of giants who seemed to be intent upon summoning a primal with a, "most icy disposition."

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It is certainly plausible, but we have to remember that the Eorzean media is not all knowing. They are, like all newspapers, want to publish rumour and speculation that makes a really good story.

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a few nations on the far eastern shores held out.

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I'm not so sure I agree, at least concerning the nation of Doma. The official 2.2 website says this under Yugiri's image:

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Hailing from the nation of Doma on the shores of Othard, Yugiri and her countrymen have fled their war-torn home and the oppression of Garlean rule in search of refuge.

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I'm not so sure I agree, at least concerning the nation of Doma. The official 2.2 website says this under Yugiri's image:

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Oh, she might not be from one of the far eastern holdouts; I'm just saying that we know that Garlemald doesn't have complete rule of Othardian city-states. It sounds like she specifically is from one that's in an Ala Mhigo situation. What I mean is that it it wouldn't require crossing vast amounts of Garlean territory for them to get to us; she could just get to a freehold and stow away on a trade galley, perhaps. It's an interesting theory, to be sure, but the beast tribes tend to have much more "non-humanoid" body shapes whereas Yigiri's is quite "normal" aside from the ear/horn/protrusions. This implies more of a new a new race more than new tribe (SUPERFICIALLY). Not to say that primals can't be summoned by races and clans, but I found the quote we're looking for:

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Originally Posted by Naoki Yoshida (2013/09/01)

For 2.1 we’re going to bring back Good King Moogle Mog, as well as add a new level of Titan, Garuda and Ifrit battles… super, hard, ultra, hyper… we don’t know what we’ll call them yet. As for Ramuh, Leviathan and Shiva…one will be appearing in 2.2 but we can’t say anymore right now because it affects the story line. Shiva will be the Primal of a beast tribe that no one has seen. As for when the Free Companies will be able to summon the Primals, we’re thinking 2.2 or 2.3. That’s when the Primals will start entering the fields.

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This was a few days after launch, so Mor Dhona's Gigas tribe (higher than the giants and the hecatons) had just been introduced; they weren't familiar, but they'd been seen.

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...<cracks open Pliny the Ender's Naturalis Historia>...

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I see your Pliny... and raise you the Monster Manual v1.0

Landsharks and Erinyes and Owlbears, Oh my...


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If Shiva turns out to look more or less like she did in FFVII, I will volunteer to be Tempered.

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...and why do the Beast Tribe primals look more "human-oid" by far, than they in any way resemble the physical forms of their summoning tribes? :)