Aetherfolow Not always Working on SCH?

This has happend to me a few times now, only on sch but not on smn (though I dont' play smn as much). I'll use aetherflow to get mp/charges, and it goes on cool down, but no mp or charges are restored. I feel like it seems to happen more when I'm trying to do things in a hurry (maybe its being clipped with starting a cast?), but it happens so randomly I've no idea how to test this.

Has anyone else noticed similar issues with SCH? Any smn players know if it happens to them too? Any known work around?

Has happened since patch.

It happened to me a number of times. I haven't tried playing after the new update to see if the problem still existed.

If true this would suck, I wonder if this spell can miss. Would suck to have to stack acc just to make sure your mp machanics worked.

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Originally Posted by Serophyn

If true this would suck, I wonder if this spell can miss. Would suck to have to stack acc just to make sure your mp machanics worked.

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Ok color me derp I just remembered aetherfolow is the self buff not the damage drain spell. /derp

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Originally Posted by Serophyn

Ok color me derp I just remembered aetherfolow is the self buff not the damage drain spell. /derp

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The drain can miss, just so you know. And yeah, that does suck, but its an offesnive spell so it makes sense. Course, no sch gear gets any accuracy :/

I've never once had Aetherflow fail to function. I think it falls into that "Itchy trigger finger" habit we tend to have. As one of an Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner's several abilities that does not obey a global cool down people tend to want to fire it off the very moment another spell has finished casting. Due to things like character animations vs recast time + small amounts of server delay you're often not ready to actually activate any ability.

If I need/want to use something like Aetherflow, Virus, Energy Drain, Bane, etc -- anything that doesn't follow a global cooldown I try to sneak it evenly between my usual recast times in an attempt to avoid disrupting my usual rotation as much as possible. It works especially well when finishing abilities that use cast times whereas I tend to catch myself tripping over my cooldowns when using multiple instant cast abilities that trigger a global cooldown (such as Bio, Miasma II, etc).

Just watch your timing & you should be fine.

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Originally Posted by Nexfilius

Just watch your timing & you should be fine.

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I think you didn't understand what the OP was saying. What's happening is that you hit Aetherflow and the animation goes off like normal and the ability goes on cooldown, but no MP is restored and no Aetherflow stacks are given even though the ability is now on cooldown and you have to wait another minute to use it again.

In response to the OP, this has happened to me on occasion. I have no idea what causes it to happen or not, but thankfully it doesn't seem super common.

May not be just SCH and that ability. In a couple AK runs yesterday on PLD I had some of my defensive CD's randomly go on CD without actually using them. The BRD in one of the runs was saying the same thing with some of his/hers CD as well. None of this was happening before the recent patch.

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Originally Posted by Nexfilius

I've never once had Aetherflow fail to function. I think it falls into that "Itchy trigger finger" habit we tend to have. As one of an Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner's several abilities that does not obey a global cool down people tend to want to fire it off the very moment another spell has finished casting. Due to things like character animations vs recast time + small amounts of server delay you're often not ready to actually activate any ability.

Just watch your timing & you should be fine.

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As Orin pointed out, this isn't me thinking I used it and it didnt, this is situations where I know it is available, I hit it, animation goes off, no mp resotred and I still have no charges.

Happend to me on smn last night, so apparently its the ability not the job.

This has never happened to me as a SCH, but my brother who is a SMN has this happening quite a lot and since way before the patch.

Happened to me a couple of times, I suppose just don't chain instant cast/abilities with it and it'll be alright.

Usually it happens in Coil....

It seems to have been happening to me at an increase lately, out of nowhere. I have also noticed, that if skills are linked together too closely in succession, one of the skills will not complete, as the animation has not been completed/triggered properly yet. This happens to me all the time when I cast Bio after Miasma, if I don't give it that half second breath of room.

Pretty sure it's not an accuracy issue, but who knows. Maybe this hotfix played with stats a bit on the monsters. Not sure why Aetherflow would be missing though, seem's pretty preposterous to me.

It happens when you cast Aetherflow too fast right after Energy Drain, I think. Happened a few times in Binding Coil, had to get bard to mana song -_-

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Originally Posted by Sylvanna

It happens when you cast Aetherflow too fast right after Energy Drain, I think. Happened a few times in Binding Coil, had to get bard to mana song -_-

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This.

Let's say you use Energy Drain. It's got a tad delay on it to check if it hits before it applies its effects. So you use it, it remembers you have one aetherflow stack, and when it executes, it will give you your MP and HP and set your Aetherflow to zero stacks.

Now, using Aetherflow itself is immediate, it sets your Aetherflow stacks to 3, as well as the MP gain.

However, what happens if you pop Aetherflow in the middle of the Energy Drain attack? Well, you start the drain, it remembers you have one stack, aetherflow executes giving you 3 stacks, and then the drain finishes and sets you to zero stacks [the one minus one].

So the way to avoid it is very simple--don't use Aetherflow until Energy Drain has completed.

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Originally Posted by Sylvanna

It happens when you cast Aetherflow too fast right after Energy Drain, I think. Happened a few times in Binding Coil, had to get bard to mana song -_-

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Originally Posted by Gruntler

This.

Let's say you use Energy Drain. It's got a tad delay on it to check if it hits before it applies its effects. So you use it, it remembers you have one aetherflow stack, and when it executes, it will give you your MP and HP and set your Aetherflow to zero stacks.

Now, using Aetherflow itself is immediate, it sets your Aetherflow stacks to 3, as well as the MP gain.

However, what happens if you pop Aetherflow in the middle of the Energy Drain attack? Well, you start the drain, it remembers you have one stack, aetherflow executes giving you 3 stacks, and then the drain finishes and sets you to zero stacks [the one minus one].

So the way to avoid it is very simple--don't use Aetherflow until Energy Drain has completed.

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This actually makes sense. It is possible that I use Aetherflow too soon. Thanks :)

this has happened to me too. Quite annoying, luckily its only when im DPSings in things such as CM and Praet. So it prolly is from using it after energy drain to quickly.

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Originally Posted by Gruntler

This.

Let's say you use Energy Drain. It's got a tad delay on it to check if it hits before it applies its effects. So you use it, it remembers you have one aetherflow stack, and when it executes, it will give you your MP and HP and set your Aetherflow to zero stacks.

Now, using Aetherflow itself is immediate, it sets your Aetherflow stacks to 3, as well as the MP gain.

However, what happens if you pop Aetherflow in the middle of the Energy Drain attack? Well, you start the drain, it remembers you have one stack, aetherflow executes giving you 3 stacks, and then the drain finishes and sets you to zero stacks [the one minus one].

So the way to avoid it is very simple--don't use Aetherflow until Energy Drain has completed.

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Best info ever. And I can see where this would happen to me as I often burn off charges with drain before using flow.

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Originally Posted by Sylvanna

It happens when you cast Aetherflow too fast right after Energy Drain, I think. Happened a few times in Binding Coil, had to get bard to mana song -_-

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Not really about Aetherflow, but I'm wondering if this is what happens with my fairy sometimes. I have her on steady and when I use one of her spells(usually whispering dawn) then immediately put her back on steady it doesn't look like she casts the spell, or at least I never see it on anyone in the party :/.

Happened to me several times now. Also happened on my BLM with raging strikes. Strange is that it gave me MP but no 3 stacks of Aetherflow.
Hella annoying, I hope they patch this as fast as possible.

On a similar note, the skill that give you tp (invigorate?) Have had this issue for me many times, not sure why but i bet its related. Sucks when you tank and rely on it and then nothing happens.

This has happened to me also. Its not all the time but it happens. OP you might want to not down when where and what time it happens then submit a bug report

It has happened to me quite a few times as well, I found that it happened occasionally when I used my last charge on energy drain, and then immediately after used aetherflow, I would sometimes not get the stacks I should have gotten (Which is terrible on Titan / Late in garuda)

Yeah I have to click it multiple times. In coil when I am always doing something and click it sometimes it doesn't activate. I have to then go back and spam it.

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Originally Posted by AunaYuuki

Yeah I have to click it multiple times. In coil when I am always doing something and click it sometimes it doesn't activate. I have to then go back and spam it.

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Just to be clear, the issue we are discussing is where the ability activates (so it goes on cool down, and the animation plays) but you do not recieve mana or charges--reclicking won't help since its on cool down.

Have a "me too". By the way, this seemed to happen to me more often in Haukke Manor, though it could have been just because I ran that more often than other things soon after getting SCH.

It seems likely that it is as previously mentioned. If you first use an attack that alters aetherflow such as energy drain and then quickly use aetherflow. Same applies if you use bio and then immediately cast bane it will not spread unless you wait til you see bio stick.