When is 2.1 Update Coming Nov, Dec, or Jan?

Because of yesterdays "Letter from the Producer LI" http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...01#post1441401 This- "More details will be revealed during the upcoming LIVE letters. I'm planning to host one every month up until the release of 2.1, and I hope you tune in to all of them!"

Many people are already speculating that 2.1 won't happen until the end of the year or early Jan. because of what he said. I think most everyone thought that 2.1 was coming in Nov.

"I'm planning to host one every month up until the release of 2.1" One will be on Oct 19. for this month, So will he do one next month and then we get 2.1 or do we have to wait until Dec. or even Jan.

So when will we get the 2.1 update Nov, Dec, or Jan?

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Originally Posted by Alavastre

Because of all the server stuff, it's possible that resources were diverted from 2.1. I think the intent was November, but it looks like it will probably be January. Unless there is something missing in the translation.

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This is what another person said. How fluent She is in Japanese idk.

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Originally Posted by ninthfantasy

It wasn't a mistranslation, Japanese says the exact same thing.

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Because of all the server stuff, it's possible that resources were diverted from 2.1. I think the intent was November, but it looks like it will probably be January. Unless there is something missing in the translation.

They had quite a few issues with launch. They just finished implementing a transfer service that was supposed to go out a month ago. Not saying "how dare they" or anything, but they've been doing a great job of getting what they need done, done. But it's took time and that is definitely going to reflect on the release of their first major patch. Don't expect until late Dec.

I think they're probably about a month behind, so we'll probably see it late November, early December.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

This is what another person said. How fluent he is in Japanese idk.

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I can vouch for Ninthfantasy's Japanese, translated loads of things for me. Also its She ^^

As far as Crystal Tower being fine tuned and that's why it wasn't included in launch.... yea.

It is planned for this year.
31st december or earlier

Didn't they say at first that 2.1 would be November? And now it is changed to December. They shouldn't give such specific timeframes because should they have to delay it due to difficulties it reflects poorly on them. "Late 2013-early 2014" would have been a better target date.

Considering the Crossover FATEs should be starting Nov 14, 2013 (at least the Lightning FATE is confirmed for this date), I'd say that it would probably be Maintenance on Nov 13 for 2.1 launch on Nov 14.

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Originally Posted by Xieveral

Didn't they say at first that 2.1 would be November? And now it is changed to December. They shouldn't give such specific timeframes because should they have to delay it due to difficulties it reflects poorly on them. "Late 2013-early 2014" would have been a better target date.

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It doesn't reflect poorly on them, find me an MMO with zero release delays/issues. It's the rabid attachment to any date given regardless of any issues that may come up that is the issue. Honestly, by now people would expect delays in each and every mmo. It's the nature of the beast.

The thing is a lot of people are bored, and if the content patches dont come out quick enough they are going to loose subs. And TBCoB is still going to be "the hardest content" when 2.1 hits.

I feel confident that 2.1 will be a huge patch to add lots of things but I do not think it is coming anytime soon. My thoughts are december-Jan. Just look at their track record, sure the quality is good but it takes a while. And it might hurt the game, they are really lucky there are no "big" mmo's out right now. Everyone is either spread out over what they like / use to or waiting on ESO.

The last time SE release something and it was "early" (in my mind) was 1.0 (they announced it at E3 in June then in July they announced a release date of Sept)

Tldr; Dont expect it too soon, get comfortable where the game is at. SE takes their time, but its worth it. But from a buisness standpoint their main advantage is they are the new kid on the block. But that wont last long.

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Originally Posted by Jinfire

The thing is a lot of people are bored, and if the content patches dont come out quick enough they are going to loose subs. And TBCoB is still going to be "the hardest content" when 2.1 hits.

I feel confident that 2.1 will be a huge patch to add lots of things but I do not think it is coming anytime soon. My thoughts are december-Jan. Just look at their track record, sure the quality is good but it takes a while. And it might hurt the game, they are really lucky there are no "big" mmo's out right now. Everyone is either spread out over what they like / use to or waiting on ESO.

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I have a feeling you're 100% right. A smart business model would be to release Crystal Tower and whatever else they are currently "polishing." Then have other patches back-to-back that introduce main scenarios, UI features, etc.

They won't do this though, but we're going to be waiting far too long and they'll lose reputation and subs by the time they do bring it out.

If you've almost got content ready, release it and be honest/realistic about the other updates.

Given the track record they have, the fact they said "before the end of the year", and the shear amount of content I'd say mid December. Right before holiday season hits seems like good timing to me. For us, and them.

Whatever you think, add time to the end of it, then account for emergency maint to fix it, then the update to make it work right.

10 years of FFXI....

I rather have small medium amount of content released every 2-4 weeks to add variety than one big patch every 3 months. Otherwise this will be a game that you pay subs when patch is being released, consume it within a month, and quit till the next patch is being released. Though that may be a great idea, you end up paying for 4-6 months in a year.

I am going to have to disagree that the server issues put a delay on content release. Content developers do not work in data centers. The guys who have been working on getting the servers up and tuned are not the same guys who are working on game content. There is no reason server stability / capacity increases should make any difference on when content development and QA teams complete their work. That would be like saying newspaper writers had to stop working because newspaper stands could not hold enough newspapers to meet the demand of the public.

The problem with that is releasing buggy / unpolished content which also hurts their reputation. While im almost 100% certain it will have bugs anyway some are more gamebreaking then others.

What they have to do I think is increase their dev teams to push ready content out faster. This is one of the last pay to play MMOs and they need to show their customers why. They need to also improve the content they have. My examples are Guildleves, guildhests and companions. Chocobo Companions take too long to level and there is almost no need for it. They need to be allowed in instanced areas, dungeons / story missions.

Guildleves and guildhests need to grant more exp or at least get alt class bonus (50%). Guildleves should also give much more gil. Im sitting on 100 leve allowances and no motivation to do them.

Anyway I digress this isnt a suggestion thread. SE needs to up their speed though cause right now they are doing good but they need to keep up with demand

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

I rather have small medium amount of content released every 2-4 weeks to add variety than one big patch every 3 months. Otherwise this will be a game that you pay subs when patch is being released, consume it within a month, and quit till the next patch is being released. Though that may be a great idea, you end up paying for 4-6 months in a year.

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Whoa. 2-4 week windows will not happen. I think you underestimate the complexity of an MMO. SWTOR was doing 6-8 weeks, and a lot of their patches are pretty small. But they do bigger patches about 2-3 times a year. You just can't pump out content that quickly.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

I rather have small medium amount of content released every 2-4 weeks to add variety than one big patch every 3 months. Otherwise this will be a game that you pay subs when patch is being released, consume it within a month, and quit till the next patch is being released. Though that may be a great idea, you end up paying for 4-6 months in a year.

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Originally Posted by Alavastre

Whoa. 2-4 week windows will not happen. I think you underestimate the complexity of an MMO. SWTOR was doing 6-8 weeks, and a lot of their patches are pretty small. But they do bigger patches about 2-3 times a year. You just can't pump out content that quickly.

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Agreed. The question isn't how often they can or will bring new content out, the question is why would they hold back content that was supposed to be out in August -- that's currently getting polished -- for other content that will make them 6-8 weeks late?

ninthfantasy here!

If people want I can translate it word for word. But the translation is pretty much spot on. In the Japanese version it literally says, "Until the release of 2.1, I will be doing a Producer Live Letter every month". But that doesn't mean to say it's gonna be months from now. It's pretty vague to be honest. I think it's safe to expect it in December.

Well since the server transfers were behind about a month I think they may just release the Lightning FATE in Nov and may hold off for 2.1 full update in dec. It is hard to tell with no real updates or predictions from Yoshi/or/SE. They claim its still in November but don't be disappointed if its a month or so late.

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Originally Posted by Alavastre

Whoa. 2-4 week windows will not happen. I think you underestimate the complexity of an MMO. SWTOR was doing 6-8 weeks, and a lot of their patches are pretty small. But they do bigger patches about 2-3 times a year. You just can't pump out content that quickly.

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GW2 and PSO2 both do content patches every 2 weeks and one is 100% free to play, while the other is buy to play with no monthly sub.

There is ZERO excuse a $13/month MMO can't release content faster than a f2p/b2p game.

Considering they have to patch the Lightning Fate in before Nov 14 when it comes out and have all the items that it drops in the game, you would think 2.1 has to be before Nov. 14.

its been planned for mid november since beta phase 4, since we havent heard anything else, it most likely havent changed either.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Considering they have to patch the Lightning Fate in before Nov 14 when it comes out and have all the items that it drops in the game, you would think 2.1 has to be before Nov. 14.

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Just wait till the ultimate troll where the Fate is patched in by itself, where they put their little baby Lightning before keeping their mmo alive.

Good thing sub based MMOs guarantee a steady flow of updates, meaning you don't have to wait almost 4 months for new content.

Oh wait.

Well Im still waitiing on the Dragon quest sorcerers stone events etc.. Havent seen them yet. I really hope they pull off the 2.1 patch by beginning of NOV or mid NOV at latest and I cant wait for the Lightning Cross Over I hope that gear is worth the wait.. Especially the spell caster stuff.

All I know is I won't be playing if it doesn't come in november or very early december maybe.

If your 30-40 days into a sub and your running out of content because you chose one class and your focus is only raiding/endgame then you will now and always jump MMO to MMO. Only a sandbox MMO may keep you content, but ultimately I think these kinds of players will always get to this point.. hate/rage quit then accept its time for the next "big thing".

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

GW2 and PSO2 both do content patches every 2 weeks and one is 100% free to play, while the other is buy to play with no monthly sub.

There is ZERO excuse a $13/month MMO can't release content faster than a f2p/b2p game.

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XI does patches very quickly too, basically every month unless they split a fairly large update into parts then its beginning & end or mid and early next.

I think he just said "ill continue to release letters once a month until 2.1 is released" so we might have another letter in November, and then well you know, the release. That's all

It always amazes me that someone will post a thread with a question like this, after the producer has made a statement like this:

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More details will be revealed during the upcoming LIVE letters. I'm planning to host one every month up until the release of 2.1, and I hope you tune in to all of them!

And that’s all from me for today. See you again on October 19, at the ninth Letter from the Producer LIVE!

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Do you really think that posting this question is going to get you a different answer? Sure you are going to get a lot of comments from members, but we don't know anything. You will get your answer on Oct 19th... Or "an" answer anyway.

If 2.1 is not in november I'm out until 2.1 is released. Endgame is just not good enough right now.

grind amdapor and wp till januray. is that what they realy expect us to do lol?

i believe they said from the start that they'll add major content updates once in every 3 months
so it's november, i guess