DevTalk: Chocobo Thread. Riding! Raising! Racing! You Know You Want Your Fix

UPDATE: Chocobos are coming in patch 1.19, although in what form, we do not know yet.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

This seems like a good spot to drop some information that we recently heard from Yoshida... He mentioned that the dev. team is currently thinking about two different approaches.

The first is pet-related content where players can raise chocobos and other mounts that anyone can ride. The second idea is centered around pets that can only be utilized by specific jobs.

However, we won't be picking just one concept to implement. Instead we will be looking into the specifications so that we can implement both. However, as we are not yet at the stage where we can disclose when the implementation timing will be. We hope that the current chocobo implementation planned for 1.19 will hold you all over in the meantime. :)

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According to a recent dev post, the team are still "gathering their thoughts" on modes of transportation.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Ah, sorry I missed that. Regarding what Foxclon said on the JP forum was the fact that in the 1.18 patch, the anima cost of "Return" will be lowered to zero. He also said that while it's a bit off, they're gathering their thoughts regarding future modes of transportation and once we have something concrete to share, we'll let you guys know.

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Well, we all know that one particular form of transportation, a true Final Fantasy staple, is quite conspicuously missing in action: the almighty Chocobo. Let's gather our thoughts, shall we?

GOALS:

Implementation of chocobos as an alternate form of transportation that has particular pros and cons that distinguish it from the already established modes like walking, teleporting, and boat-riding. (Inspired from all Final Fantasy games that let you ride a Chocobo)

Implementation of chocobos as a minor pet-raising simulation so that players use their skill to breed and train their own custom Chocobo. (Inspired by FF7, FF11)

Implementation of chocobos as vehicles for competitive racing in which players can compete in a non-combat form of PVP to win gil and prizes (Inspired by FF7, FF10, FF11)


In order to realize these stated goals, we should want to try to implement the best qualities of the chocobo-related activities of past games while ignoring the not-fun parts.


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In FF11, the license quest at level 20 was a nice milestone to look forward to in a young player's career, so I'd like to bring that same concept into FF14. What I want to change, however, is the actual quest. Feeding a sick chocobo 4 times is a pretty lame quest objective. I'm sure the devs can think of something better than that.

Level 20 - Chocobo Renter's License Quest
This would allow you to rent a chocobo from the town NPC for a small fee. 30 minute time limit on rented chocobos.

Level 30 - Chocobo Owner's License Quest
This would allow you to own your own chocobo and call upon it at anytime out in the field. Unlimited time limit on personally owned chocobos.

How these modes of transportation differ enough to be useful in their own ways:

Teleport - Fastest mode of transportation and costs no gil, yet it costs anima to use, and it can only teleport to certain pre-determined areas.

Chocobo - Faster than walking with the freedom to go anywhere and not use anima, yet it costs gil to rent or to own a chocobo

Walking - Costs 0 gil and 0 anima, but is slow.


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Chocobo raising was a neat concept in FF7, but I felt that it was a bit too complicated and overdrawn in FF11. I'd prefer the more tedious Tamagotchi-esqe care-taking aspects of it be removed.

Level 30 - Chocobo Breeder License Quest
This would allow you to breed and raise your own chocobos for your own use or to sell to other players.

- allow players to rent a chocobo stable to house their chocobos. Rent is automatically deducted form your character as long as you have a stable active.
A "basic stable" costs 10,000 gil per real-time week to maintain and holds 1 chocobo.
A "breeder's stable" costs 20,000 gil per real-time week to maintain and holds 4 chocobos.
A "master's stable" costs 70,000 gil per real-time week to maintain and holds 8 chocobos.

- Each chocobo has a unique ID to it and has a variety of genes associated with it that express themselves via various traits such as: height, wing size, feet size, head size, color, beak size, beak shape, eye size, eye color, tail feather size, tail feather style, speed, endurance, etc

- Chocobo genes and traits are passed down from generation to generation in a manner that follows the Mendelian Principles of inheritance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance

- Genes are responsible for 70% of a chocobos final stats and appearance, while 30% is determined by the skill of the player who raises it and the choices they make while caring for the chocobo.

- It takes one week of real-time for a newborn chocobo to reach adulthood and be eligible to be ridden or raced.

- The process of raising won't be a tedious baby-sitting job like it was in FF11, the basic process of chocobo-raising can be completed with minimal attention throughout the one week maturation period with no negative consequences to the chocobo or its future offspring. However, squeezing out that extra 30% of potential from their chocobos will be possible for those breeders who want to dedicate their time to do so.

- Baby chocobos can be made to follow the player character around town like a puppy in order to show off.



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Level 30 - Chocobo Racer's License Quest

- each town has a gate that all leads to the same instance - Chocobo Racing Arena

- Similar to behest, one race in 3 different skill classes happens once every 30 minutes. Up to 8 players can race simultaneously per race. If more than 8 players sign up for a race, additional race instances are created to handle the overflow of players. If under 8 players sign up for a race, the extra slots are occupied by NPC racers.

- players can race in 3 different classes. Player entry fees for each skill class are put into a single pot.

1st place: 70% of pot
2nd place: 15% of pot
3rd place: 5% of pot
4th place: 5% of pot
5th place: 5% of pot

"B Class" - entry fee is 1,000 gil. Reward for 1st and 2nd place also randomly includes some kind of medium-value gear/craft material/materia/whatever

"A-Class" - entry fee is 5,000 gil. Reward for 1st and 2nd place also randomly includes some kind of medium/high-value gear/craft/material/materia/whatever

"S-Class" - entry fee is 10,000 gil. Reward for 1st and 2nd place also randomly includes some kind of high-value gear/craft/material/materia/whatever

- the actual racing game is an actual racing simulation. Whether the nature of the racing sim is more inspired by Gran Turismo or Mario Kart, is up to the devs. What should be important is that the actual racing game is a game of skill and not chance. It should also be designed to minimize the advantage that players with high ping have over players with low ping.

- While Chocobos do have variable stats in regard to speed and endurance, the overall determining factor of victory is player skill. i.e. a crappy player with a godlike chocobo will still have a hard time beating a skillful player with an average chocobo.

- After 2 months of real-time has passed in an adult Chocobo's life, it must be retired from racing. It may still be ridden, however.

- I'm not sure if I want to keep the concept of Chocobucks from FF11. Maybe.


MISCELLANEOUS DETAILS:

- Chocobos level up the more you use them for riding or racing, boosting their stats slightly and granting them new abilities (like 'dash' or 'jump' or 'glide', perhaps?).

- You can equip various gear and decorative armor to your chocobos on their head, body, and feet. These types of gear can be found in treasure chests, or crafted by players, or bought at NPCs, or dropped from NMs, etc.

- You are able to name your chocobos whatever you want.

- You may sell your chocobos to whomever you want


Related links on how to fix Final Fantasy 14: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...vBForum_Thread


Thoughts? Criticisms? Ideas? Please comment.

"Like" if you like!

You should only own when you grow it up yourself :) and it should take 15days not the crazy 28days for ffxi tho i did like it.

excellent ideas op im so in need of a chocobo :(

i was never into racing but enjoyed breeding them very much, had all sexes, all colors in 11 and loved it. Lv30 may be a bit high to own one as cap is only 50 but overall i like the idea.

we should also be able to craft armor for the chocobos , would very much like to personalize one this way as well.

the idea of a baby to follow you is wonderful, as long as you were able to keep it that way ^^. a few "pets" in ff would be a great addition to this game, not overkill...dont add oodles that become meaningless, but a couple to choose from would be lovely imo. (with the talent that the artists have in this game, they would be so cute lol.)

Love Bump! ~<3 I wanna raise a baby chocobo, then ride her all over the countryside. =D

I very much like the idea of re-using the fun chocobo activities from the past.

The raising, breeding, and racing activities I think would all be enjoyable.

I'd like to add another idea, that of mounted chocobo combat. Many of the cut scenes show mounted chocobo knights, especially from the Ishgard area. Letting players become chobobo knights themselves would add an entirely new dimension to the game.

My thought is that rather than making chocobos grant immunity to attacks, let combat be possible while riding chocobos. Chocobos could have their own HP, defense, mag defense and evasion, and their bred stats as well as armor would determine these stats. Many of the later game monsters are incredibly fast already ... antelope stags and raptors come to mind. A grass Raptor is as fast as a gatherer with the gatherer speed buff, so making chocobos as fast as that wouldn't be terribly unbalanced (in addition to the spectre of AoE attacks).

To help balance chocobo combat, perhaps TP generation could be reduced while mounted, and MP regeneration could be turned off while mounted, perhaps even stamina generation would be reduced. Specifics, of course, would depend upon the details of how the battle system is being revamped.

This could all lead up to a new job (not class, but job, assuming some sort of two-tier job / class system), the job of Chocobo Knight, which would add special abilities / bonuses when fighting from the back of a chocobo.

Special bonuses could include negating combat penalties from basic chocobo combat, granting additional HP or defense to your chocobo, or adding new attack 'weaponskills' that consist of chocobo attacks such as "Charge" (like Raging strike, could add bonus damage to a weaponskill), "Peck" or "Talon Strike", as well as a "Chocobo Sprint" ability. I'd like to see some abilities for gatherer classes to synergize with chocobo riding, such as "Dig" for mining or "Graze" for botany.

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

Love Bump! ~<3 I wanna raise a baby chocobo, then ride her all over the countryside. =D

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Omgod!!! Me too!!! :3

I'm gonna squish it and make sure its happy, not too much greens so it gets fatty though >w<

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

Love Bump! ~<3 I wanna raise a baby chocobo, then ride her all over the countryside. =D

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And another!

One thing I didn't like about owning my own Chocobo in FFXI was the fact that the whistle had limited charges. If I raise my Chocobo, I feel I should have the ability to call it without that charge restriction.

As far as color goes, I think it would be cool to have a quasi two-toned color, where most of the bird is the dominant color, but the recessive color can still be seen at the tips of the wing/tail/head feathers. Not so much that it looks completely dumb, but enough to look neat. Maybe the recessive color is only yellow, and maybe it doesn't always show up, but it would be a neat feature to add another level of uniqueness to a personal Chocobo.

As has been mentioned elsewhere, I am in favor of allowing us to add saddlebags to our personal birds to act as an extra inventory space in the field.

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Originally Posted by MistyMew

i was never into racing but enjoyed breeding them very much, had all sexes, all colors in 11 and loved it. Lv30 may be a bit high to own one as cap is only 50 but overall i like the idea.

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You seem like you have a lot of experience with breeding in FF11. Did you experience the breeding in FF7? What were the things you liked most about the breeding system in FF11, and what were the things you liked the least? Is there anything you can think of that would make the chocobo breeding process more fun, entertaining, and engaging?

I wish I could l love this instead of just liking it.

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Originally Posted by Ryoshi

I wish I could l love this instead of just liking it.

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Hm? Is it lacking in some area in your opinion?

edit: lol, oh wait, I see what you mean now, haha

Can't wait for chocobos to be implemented! I want to breed, ride and race! Chocobos? Yes please!

Excellent ideas! I think implementing Chocobo breeders as a Disciple of Beasts class or something would enable players to raise their own birds, buy/sell saddles (TAN), armor (ARM), and Chocobo feed (CUL) from respected crafts. Also, being able to equip your bird with gear for a unique feel and look and even have the chance to sell them for profit.

Chocobo Riding Emotes would be really cool too! :cool:

Add auto-pilot to the chocobo you have raised as advanced feature and add command like

/goto <camp or leader>

maybe you will have to take your chocobo to all different areas to teach him how to reach each place.

I'd really like to see chocobo breeding and racing and any other innovative stuff.

I swear if they implement anything other than chocobo mounts that may be a complete deal-breaker for me. That was by far the most annoying thing that pissed me off in WoW was everyone's obnoxious mounts.

More love for chocobos needed.

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Originally Posted by Rjain

I swear if they implement anything other than chocobo mounts that may be a complete deal-breaker for me.

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Despite my love for variety and choice, I feel that for the Final Fantasy universe, the only mounts are Chocobos. That being the case, I think we can make it so that with genetic diversity along with gear diversity, we can have a great variety of customizable chocobos.

Nice comments so far, I really want to hear from more hardcore FF11 chcocobo raisers about what they liked and what they didn't like about the system.

Wow Renta, I simply could not agree more. This concept sounds amazing. I would like to add some ideas to the mix as well.

Oh, one thing I would change about your post is that instead of the Chocobo Racer having to retire after just two months of hard work. Why not make it degrade? That way you can prepare yourself for another (Newer) racer instead of being out of competition all together. Just a thought!

Anyway Here is what i'd like to add/change:

New DoL: Chocobo Breeder
New DoH: Chocobo Outfiter
New DoH: Chocobo Trainer

Think about it! AND YES if this does come into play Chocobo customization is an absolute must in an MMO, Especially if it is the only mount avaliable!!!

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Originally Posted by Rjain

I swear if they implement anything other than chocobo mounts that may be a complete deal-breaker for me. That was by far the most annoying thing that pissed me off in WoW was everyone's obnoxious mounts.

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One more thing. Don't let the concept of having mounts other than Chocobos completely turn you off. Think about this:

What if they implemented something like XIII. (Hear me out)

Determend by the Guardian you chose at the Character Creation and the starting class chosen, determaned your summon/mount.

As an example, say you chose
---Halone the Fury and Pugilist, your summon mount unique to that: Ixion
---Byregot and Miner determaned that you'd get: Alexander.

Just an idea. But think about how the characters in XIII rode their unique mounts. I'm not nessisarly saying they'd have to be classic FF summons either, they could add different creatures or newer summons altogether.

Also, you could only obtain this kind of mount at a very high rank. To coincide with the story you could unlock said inner summon at R50. That way a Chocobo would have it's staple position until endgame. You could even go as far as requiring your chosen class at R50 to get your epic mount. Idk, just ideas!

My point is, I believe that the idea of alternate mounts beyond Chocobo could be a neat concept. Keep an open mind!

Love it! Great ideas!

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Originally Posted by Katie

Wow Renta, I simply could not agree more. This concept sounds amazing. I would like to add some ideas to the mix as well.

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Katie! :D

Thanks for the comments <3

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Originally Posted by Katie

Oh, one thing I would change about your post is that instead of the Chocobo Racer having to retire after just two months of hard work. Why not make it degrade? That way you can prepare yourself for another (Newer) racer instead of being out of competition all together. Just a thought!

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Yeah, that's an interesting thought - I was actually thinking about that too when I was constructing my first post. The reason I decided against that was because all of the hardcore racers would just ditch their racing chocobo at the first sign of degradation, anyway. I figure that as long as there's a counter or something that lets you know how much time you have left to race your chocobo, you'll have plenty of time to raise or buy a new one to replace your old one when the time comes. As long as you buy the standard Chocobo stable, you'll have 4 slots to hold Chocobos and get fresh, new ones when needed.

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Originally Posted by Katie

Anyway Here is what i'd like to add/change:

New DoL: Chocobo Breeder
New DoH: Chocobo Outfiter
New DoH: Chocobo Trainer

Think about it! AND YES if this does come into play Chocobo customization is an absolute must in an MMO, Especially if it is the only mount avaliable!!!

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I was still thinking about wondering if chocobo raising and stuff should be their own classes, too. I dunno if they'd have enough stuff to do...still thinking about it.

Yes, and I totally agree about the variation. Just looking at all the various concept designs for Chocobos among all the Final Fantasy games, there is a lot of room for variation.

There's a thread on the Japanese side about what kind of mounts you want to see besides chocobos. Mocchi stopped by for a dev post.

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Originally Posted by Mocchi

こんにちは。

色々なアイディアありがとうございます。吉田と話をしてきまして、個人用のマウントに関して皆さんから大量に乗りたいもののご意見を頂いて、人気の高いものについてガチで導入検討してもらえるよう話をつけてきました。

世界観的にちょっと…とかいうのは開発チームに決めてもらえば良いことですので、皆さんの自由な発想のもと、エオルゼアで何に乗りたいですか？というのを欲望のおもむくままに挙げてください！

余計なことを言って変な方向性がついちゃうといけないので例は挙げませんが、1点だけ、個人用の乗り物（何らかの方法で呼び出すなどして移動するための騎乗物）としてのアイディアをいただけますと幸いです。

あーこれいいねと思ったら「いいね！」のクリックもお忘れなく :cool:

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In short, he said he talked to Yoshida about everyone's opinion regarding what kind of personal mount they want to ride.

It's up to the team to decide, but they want to hear from the players as to what they want to ride.

Checking just now, he just posted another comment in another mount thread.

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Originally Posted by Mocchi

こんにちは。

早速乗り物に関するコメントありがとうございます。
乗り物については、個人用の乗り物（いわゆるマウント）から交通機関的なものまで、いくつかの系統を提供していくことを想定しており、今後のプロデューサーレターなどで、開発チームのコンセプトをご紹介していきたいと思います。

ただ、それはまだ結構先の事になってしまいそうですので、今の時点で皆さんから多数の希望を募集したい事項として「（個人のマウントとして）何に乗りたいですか？」というのを広くコメントいただきたいと思います。

FFですからチョコボに乗れるのは当たり前。ではその他には……？

もしこの点でご希望がありましたら、こちらのスレッドでどしどしお寄せください。

その他、マウントシステム全般に関するご意見や提案については、引き続きこのスレッドでお願いします！

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It basically asks the same thing as the other post: asking players to comment about what they want to ride. There is an additional comment that "Because this is Final Fantasy, riding chocobos is a given. But other than that...?".

In the first thread, it seems as if Magitek armor is pretty popular.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post149550
That suggestion has 47 likes already.

Now, personally, I again repeat my preference that all personal land-based mounts be chocobo only since we are, of course, in the Final Fantasy universe. Being able to ride dodos or coblyns, or goats would be kinda dumb, in my opinion.

I do kinda see the appeal of magitek armor, and I probably would be okay with that since we do have the technology of the Garlean Empire in this universe. However - they need to be relegated to transportation only. No battle capability like we see in FF6. The reason being is because I think that it would cause too much disruption to regular battle balance. Trying to balance magitek combat with normal combat would be a nightmare and while it might look cool, it would potentially cause a LOT of problems.

If we can only access certain areas via magitek armor, im for it.

Don't want to see Magitek at all really.

I think Lalafell would look awesome on Dodo's.

I really like the ideas. And about other mounts, there really isn't a point in my opinion, because if they give us enough customization then you will see personalized mounts running all over the place and they wont look the same at all other then the fact they they are all birds lol.

I really like the ideas, i think the lvls are right because that would make people want to rank up their characters. I'm all for this ^_^

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Originally Posted by Katie

Wow Renta, I simply could not agree more. This concept sounds amazing. I would like to add some ideas to the mix as well.

Oh, one thing I would change about your post is that instead of the Chocobo Racer having to retire after just two months of hard work. Why not make it degrade? That way you can prepare yourself for another (Newer) racer instead of being out of competition all together. Just a thought!

Anyway Here is what i'd like to add/change:

New DoL: Chocobo Breeder
New DoH: Chocobo Outfiter
New DoH: Chocobo Trainer

Think about it! AND YES if this does come into play Chocobo customization is an absolute must in an MMO, Especially if it is the only mount available!!!

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I really like the idea of adding some new DoL/DoH classes surrounding chocobos. Fantastic idea!

Hopefully you won't mind if I toss in some thoughts/ideas in this regard :)

DoL - To my mind DoL is all about going out into the wilds and creating materials / items out of nothing. Chocobo Breeder sounds cool, but, well... a breeder makes new chocobos by combining two existing items... a pair of chocobos you already have :o. A DoL that went out into the wilds and found chocobo eggs in nests of wild chocobos would be (to my mind) a perfect fit for a DoL class. Might be a little too restrictive, so perhaps it could be rolled up into the cancelled Shepherd class. A shepherd could find chocobo eggs in nests, find dodo eggs, pluck feathers from dodos, milk aldgoats, shear fleece from sheep, all sorts of ideas pop into mind.

DoH - Chocobo outfitter could become it's own class, but it could also add new recipes to the existing classes. Tanners could make saddles, weavers make barding, armorers make chocobo armor, culinarians make chocobo feed (for both raising young and in the field), alchemists could make illegal performance boosters. It escapes my creativity now, but I think even blacksmiths, goldsmiths and carpenters could contribute something to equipping the chocobos.

Chocobo trainer -- a definite win. Could incorporate both the breeding of chocobos as well as the training and caring of them. Sadly I didn't play XI, so I can't compare to that game's system.

Hopefully I added something positive to your ideas ^.^

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Originally Posted by Zorano

Add auto-pilot to the chocobo you have raised as advanced feature and add command like

/goto <camp or leader>

maybe you will have to take your chocobo to all different areas to teach him how to reach each place.

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Hmm, that's actually a pretty neat idea. If you level up your chocobo and train it to get from camp to camp, why not give the player an auto-pilot button?

It would introduce another goal for chocobo training, and most people like to ride just to take in the scenery anyway. It's not like an auto-pilot function would be exploitable or anything.

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Originally Posted by RisaCooper

I really like the ideas. And about other mounts, there really isn't a point in my opinion, because if they give us enough customization then you will see personalized mounts running all over the place and they wont look the same at all other then the fact they they are all birds lol.

I really like the ideas, i think the lvls are right because that would make people want to rank up their characters. I'm all for this ^_^

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Thanks, Risa :D

Really like this thread. I would also be interested in Chocobo digging being added. Need more mindless gathering grind.

Just transferring my thoughts from another thread over to here, to see what everyone thinks. ^^

Alot of the OP's points are excellent and I would love to see a majority of them instated.


(Copied from the (un)Official Mount Thread)

Chocobos only, please.
I don't want to end up seeing some random motorcycle or car obtusely bursting into my traditional Final Fantasy world, ala WoW. Also...seeing someone randomly striding across the dunes on something like a Peiste or an Eft or Goat just seems like it would be a bit goofy to me. I couldn't take that seriously to any degree. Chocobos have always been a mainstay of Final Fantasy - they should stay so in XIV.

I do think however, that the chocobos should obviously be earned.
A status symbol, of sorts. I remember the feeling I'd get from riding my Green Chocobo that I raised to a party location in XI. I was proud of it and the work I invested into raising it, and it felt neat having something unique and special that was specific to me and what I wanted it to be. And then to get a chocobo lisence period was a rite of passage in XI.
And once we have the chocobo system ready, commence with the breeding, armoring, special stats, racing, etc, and XIV could have an awesome "mount" system.

The more customizable you can get your bird, the better.
As long as it's all earned and gives people something to focus on and work towards, I'm happy.

As far as what they can do and what purpose they would serve:

I liked how chocobos worked in XIII, actually.
There were certain zones you could only get to via chocobo. This gives people a reason to rent them aside from the obvious things such as mob-free travel and speed.

We should be able to rent a basic ("yellow") one from the stables whenever, for a somewhat reasonable price (not the chump change in XI...only a few hundred gil for a chocobo seems insulting to them) or summon one we've earned/raised whilst in the field. This could be an item (such as Ghysahl Greens) a piece of equipment (added in a new slot, not worn around the neck...shame on you, chocobo whistle, taking up my neck slot with your horrid cool down time.) or an option on the main menu.

No birds in town. They "stay at the gates" (sort of like calling a retainer, you could have a chocobo valet at the entrance to each city) or if they're a rental, they're returned to the agency. This would allow you to have multiple chocobos, the same way we have retainers. (I.E. Blue Chocobo can cross deep rivers, allowing you to reach a certain zone. Red can climb steep surfaces. You have both for doing either thing. There can be 'black' chocobos that can reach any area, but obviously those need to be prime rarities. I also understand someone might just want a black chocobo for appearance sake, so color shouldn't nessecarily the only indicator of ability...just as an example. Maybe 'classes' for the chocobos?)

What would be neat would be to have saddles or heraldry for your chocobo specific to your LS or other group (player run companies comes to mind, if that's still happening). Armor and saddles could all provide the chocobo with boosts to certain respects, such as how long it can sprint, how many times it can get "spooked" (avoid aggro before some adverse condition takes place) how well they can dig or find treasure, etc.

Plus, all of this could be a big gil sink to help de-bloat the ecomony, and could maybe even add a new class - A chocobo breeder class! ^^

Thanks Admineri, you expanded on my thoughts exactly, i was just giving food for thought. ^^

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

Alot of the OP's points are excellent and I would love to see a majority of them instated.

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Thanks, Tsuwu! :)

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

Chocobos only, please.
I don't want to end up seeing some random motorcycle or car obtusely bursting into my traditional Final Fantasy world, ala WoW. Also...seeing someone randomly striding across the dunes on something like a Peiste or an Eft or Goat just seems like it would be a bit goofy to me. I couldn't take that seriously to any degree. Chocobos have always been a mainstay of Final Fantasy - they should stay so in XIV.

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Agreed. I can see Magitech armor due to the Garleans, but it would have to be restricted in use so as not to mess up class balance.

Other than that, Chocos only.

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

I do think however, that the chocobos should obviously be earned.
A status symbol, of sorts. I remember the feeling I'd get from riding my Green Chocobo that I raised to a party location in XI. I was proud of it and the work I invested into raising it, and it felt neat having something unique and special that was specific to me and what I wanted it to be. And then to get a chocobo lisence period was a rite of passage in XI.

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Yes, definitely! One of the failings of a lot of MMOs is that there really isn't any way for a player to really create things and take pride in those creations. Instilling a sense of ownership to our virtual stuff makes it that much more personal and rewarding.

And for those people who don't want to spend the time to breed their own birds, they can always freely buy them on the market, or just rent.

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

We should be able to rent a basic ("yellow") one from the stables whenever, for a somewhat reasonable price (not the chump change in XI...only a few hundred gil for a chocobo seems insulting to them) or summon one we've earned/raised whilst in the field.

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Yes, chocobo riding is a privilege, and a valued commodity, so it should be priced accordingly. It will also help to act as a gil sink.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/11434-DevTalk-GIL-SINKS!-Ideas-to-Stabilize-the-Economy-and-Curb-Inflation

i think its a pretty cool idea. i stopped playing XI before the whole chocobo thing and always thought it was a shame.

i think if there was some way to rent out your chocobos to other players would be good to. the higher the stats the more they go for. and have the option to rent for certain time periods say 10, 20 or 30 minutes and stay with you till times up.. maybe kick or peck a few bad guys to death?

also with the odd chocobo and carriages about i'm guessing there will be some kind of auto travel involving them kinda like in red dead redemption.

*bump*
Chocobo riding, raising, and racing. YES!

I had kinda liked the idea of being forced to raise it and not renting them. We've seen shepard listed as a potential class. Maybe the class would center around your chocobo, level the class to raise the chocobo and by a certain rank, you're free to ride.

Not to be a jerk, but I always think it's amazing that people are looking for fluff features like "fix the physics of belts", sometimes it rains when I'm in a cave; fix this before the end of the year!, and other such things before the game is even ready for a launch.

I definitely appreciate fluff, but core stuff is five million times more important than fluff right now.

omg i love these ideas!
GIVE US HORSE-BIRDS SE!! :D
all these old FF ideas would add a great new dimension to the game! fun activities on-the-side that are totally optional :)
it would also be sweet if they'd bring back one of those various card games from the more 'recent' FFs. (i.e. card trading/playing in FFvii, FFix, and others).
these little additions would give new options to pass the time in eorzea, alone or with friends ^^

I'd say R20 in this game would be too low for your Chocobo license since you could have it by the end of your first day playing. In FFXI it took quite a bit more time and effort to get your first job to Lvl20 and you had to make a dangerous run to Jeuno which you probably had not visited yet. For the same milestone feeling, I think it would probably need at least R30 and a hike into Coerthas (maybe Ishgard will be our Jeuno by then).

Then breeding or racing should R40 or even R50 to make the grind worth something and give us more to do once we've hit the current cap. From the sounds of it, V1.18 should make it a little easier for casual players, so I don't think R50 is that unreasonable. I just feel it should be a goal for people to work toward.

Racing needs to be a fun and rewarding escape when you need a break from the regular game. Like many players, I just couldn't be bothered with racing in FFXI because there were no significant rewards from it. Mario Kart style racing would be awesome, SE even has a little experience with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMNfUF0GRa4

GIMMIE GOLDEN CHOCOBOS THAT WORK FOR DINNER

To earn your chocobo license I'd like to see a small quest chain. All of the quests would involve using a chocobo in some way.

The first quest could be something simple since I suppose that you're supposed to be learning to ride. So maybe something like an escort mission riding along with a merchant caravan as a guard.

After that maybe things like a tutorial-ish quest that introduces you to all the aspects of renting and owning chocobos (feeding, breeding, equipping etc). Again keeping things to an introduction to basic actions, mentioning that there is more depth but leaving it there for you to investigate more later when you can actually breed them and what not.

Other possible activities could really be anything. A story line could be established with that first merchant escort quest and you get contacted(mail system anyone?) to help said merchant once more. It would be best to provide a variety of tasks so maybe now its the wagon or whatever has broken down and there will be a full out, timed defense you can do. This would be best for parties, maybe even be very difficult to do without a party?

Anyways just wanted to put that out there, obviously the possibilities are many. I think this will be a great opportunity for SE to make one of those milestones that I always hear people talking about. And not just in the sense of obtaining the license but more in that the experience of GETTING the license was so memorable that its just as much a part of the milestone as the license itself.

Lower the price of those stable fees and I'm fine.

Overfeed and you'll get an overweight chocobo. (FF4)

I would be happy with chocobo as the only mount if they allow the customization that FFXI had. You could get the different colors and depending on how you bred them they would be more skilled at different things. Digger Chocobo and Racing Chocobo's actually had different looks. It was very nice to see.