Battleping etc is NOT allowed

Hello everyone, I thought I should warn everyone...

http://i42.tinypic.com/2vm9ev7.jpg

I was a lot more descriptive (I gave some links to different programs like Battleping, WTFast, etc) in my question.

This is really awful news because I get 300+ ping and I'm starting to have trouble avoiding those red circles. My bf just transferred to a Japanese server to see if it's better there.

Its one of those things that are not allowed.. but they'd never be able to enforce. and instead of transferring to a jp server, it would have made more sense to create a character on a jp server.

SE is so uptight with everything... everything is server-side which is probably why things are so slow in-game. Maybe it's paranoia but idk what.

That's a blanket response to a specific question. The reason is a legal one. That can't allow a special accommodation for you for a specific program.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

everything is server-side

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Actually a lot of stuff is client side and has presented its own issues.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

SE is so uptight with everything... everything is server-side which is probably why things are so slow in-game. Maybe it's paranoia but idk what.

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I'm not sure if you're misinformed or just being sarcastic..lol

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Originally Posted by jdnyc

That's a blanket response to a specific question. The reason is a legal one. That can't allow a special accommodation for you for a specific program.

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Pretty much this. It's no doubt similar to XI and their official stance that using windower was against the ToS, despite the vast majority of PC players using it to make the game somewhat playable.

Vpn? 10chars

Not sure what you're all talking about ahaha... what should I make of their answer then? We can use it?

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Originally Posted by Eirika

Hello everyone, I thought I should warn everyone...

http://i42.tinypic.com/2vm9ev7.jpg

I was a lot more descriptive (I gave some links to different programs like Battleping, WTFast, etc) in my question.

This is really awful news because I get 300+ ping and I'm starting to have trouble avoiding those red circles. My bf just transferred to a Japanese server to see if it's better there.

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1. Using a VPN will not be detectable by SE.
2. Using a 3rd party application to modify your networking configuration independant of FFXIV is not against ToS.
3. Support just copy/pasted the same template they send to everyone who asks "can I use ___ with FFXIV to do ___".
4. If you are having latency problems connecting to a server in the country in which you reside, good luck when connecting to a server in a country overseas.

Example: Ask SE support if it is ok to use Opera with FFXIV. Or if you can use RDP to play FFXIV from another location. They will send you the exact same response, even though Opera is a web browser and RDP would only put you at a disadvantage playing the game. SE will still tell you the use of 3rd party applications is against ToS.

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Originally Posted by Eirika

Not sure what you're all talking about ahaha... what should I make of their answer then? We can use it?

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It's up to you, but I'd be extremely surprised if they would bother trying to detect battleping usage and even then whether they would do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Eirika

Not sure what you're all talking about ahaha... what should I make of their answer then? We can use it?

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Just remember the first rule of Fight Club.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

I'm not sure if you're misinformed or just being sarcastic..lol

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I must be misinformed, im not a technical person but FFXIV is the only game i've had technical issues with and from what i've read seems to be servers. And yes, SE is uptight about things that many other games don't go crazy about and still work, even F2P games. All the d/cing, latency issues, errors.. are u saying thats all client?

I sort of understand how these things work though. Won't SE see it as someone logging in with a bunch of different IPs, and put a block: e.g. this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...kidding-Square.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

I must be misinformed, im not a technical person but FFXIV is the only game i've had technical issues with and from what i've read seems to be servers. And yes, SE is uptight about things that many other games don't go crazy about and still work, even F2P games. All the d/cing, latency issues, errors.. are u saying thats all client?

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Latency/Connection is not a client operation, but that does not instantly mean the rest of what is going on is server-side. That is like saying, oh you have an apple tree on your farm? Then every tree on your farm must be an apple tree.

A ton of stuff is handled client side, such as combat, skills, positioning, movement, environment, animations, sounds, etc.

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Originally Posted by Eirika

I sort of understand how these things work though. Won't SE see it as someone logging in with a bunch of different IPs, and put a block: e.g. this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...kidding-Square.

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SE has made so if you use a Security Token you will not have this problem. Procedures were first introduced in FFXI and are still in effextt there.

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this should be useful info

As others have said, it's just a blanket response. You probably could've asked if you can play ARR with a spatula and you'll get the same reply.

Since a VPN such as WTFast does nothing to alter any data sent or received by SE's servers, or provide one with any type of executable shortcut/advantage,SE will not take any actions against you.The only purpose of said software is to improve connection and lessen packet loss.As others have stated, the rep. most likely skimmed your correspondence,saw the word "program" and automatically gave you a pregenerated response that says," You may not use this".

They might as well ban my entire FC then, all 100+ of us.

I'm sorry but playing all the way from New Zealand is 350-400 ping without Battleping, It's IMPOSSIBLE to dodge AoE, especially Titan. With Battleping we drop from 350 to 180.... I don't see why reducing lag is considered "against the ToS"

The minute they start banning VPN, is the same day I uninstall and never purchase Square products ever again.

I am paying someone to reduce my ping, that's how much I want to play this game....something I shouldn't have to do! WoW's client-to-server was 100x better than FFXIV, but here I am.. paying 14.99 for FFXIV Sub and $5 extra to keep my ping low.

Ban VPN
Lose Customers

your call.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

I must be misinformed, im not a technical person but FFXIV is the only game i've had technical issues with and from what i've read seems to be servers. And yes, SE is uptight about things that many other games don't go crazy about and still work, even F2P games. All the d/cing, latency issues, errors.. are u saying thats all client?

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Here's the thing SE could have 20 million Gbps throughput and you have the same (yes yes yes I know that doesn't exist before everyone points out the obvious) but if you have some slower links in the path you will have latency issues. The fact we don't know what SE's infrastructure is like we will not know if the latency issues are SE, SE's ISP or a link on the path to SE.

People have said tunneling system do help, therefore the problem can't be on SE's end or on the player's end.

All a tunnel does is send your data to another infrastructure where the path can be more controlled across their links rather than the internet allowing the data to go through the links with the highest bandwidth, however over the internet who knows what metric one router is using.

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Originally Posted by Eirika

Hello everyone, I thought I should warn everyone...

http://i42.tinypic.com/2vm9ev7.jpg

I was a lot more descriptive (I gave some links to different programs like Battleping, WTFast, etc) in my question.

This is really awful news because I get 300+ ping and I'm starting to have trouble avoiding those red circles. My bf just transferred to a Japanese server to see if it's better there.

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Yeeeeah, noooo. It's fine. Nobody even responded to you. You got an automated (hey, 3rd party lol) response that just picked out a few keywords and crapped out the closest generic answer it could find.

Do you really think that changing the path you connect to the servers with is something they're going to tell you that you can't do, really?

Does anyone have any results using tunnelling in this game from EU?

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Tested Battleping myself, got from 140-180~ jumpy, to 110 smooth from Ireland. I might start paying for it if I do plan on playing this game.....

The service rep is just lacking knowledge and lazy.

Tunnel/VPN affects your internet traffic - not the game. Unless SE wants to be my ISP now, there's no way they can regulate my internet usage.

"I was banned for reducing my ping so I could play the game the developers intended for it to be played"

imagine that story.