So Foe's Requiem can be a good skill to use when your other songs are not needed. Face it, it doesn't deflate DPS and can seriously inflate DPS for those using elemental damage (which is a skill or two for nearly everyone). What's tough about it is that it creates an aggro radius around the bard and seriously dinks up pulls in dungeons.
If it were a passive area debuff without aggro, then I would see it put up more often in dungeons and the bard would be doing more singing than just OOM and OOTP moments.
Bard - Foe's Requiem Change
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10-16-2013, 12:06 AMOmegaXtcBard - Foe's Requiem Change
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10-16-2013, 12:17 AMShamirah
Requiem works fine with SMN and BLM.
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10-16-2013, 12:26 AMOmegaXtcRight, it works great, but nobody is using it in AK, WP etc because it pulls enemies with it's aggro range. The idea is to remove that part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shamirah
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10-16-2013, 02:25 AMglim
though I agree with your sentiments, we have to see that foe requiem is not a buff, but a debuff to the enemy, and debuffs pull mobs just like virus. maybe they should just change it to a buff to players instead?
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10-16-2013, 02:42 AMDarwyn_Ulondarr
I'm curious, does Foe Requiem cause an accumulation of enmity/aggro/hate over the course of a battle? Or is it merely the initial application of the debuff that creates the aggro?
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10-16-2013, 05:36 AMAznManDown
I wasn't aware that it pulls aggro.. But then again it is my least used song so I haven't had much play with it.. Only times I pull it out is when I have a caster in my party and we want to burn down something like Demon Wall..
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10-16-2013, 05:53 AMOmegaXtc
Good question if it continues to build aggro. I used it during Odin this morning and ended up tanking him each time I used it. Could be that tanks died and unrelated. As far as using it when you have casters, I believe every class has something that is checked against resistances. I believe Venomous Bite and Windbite are both affected by resistances.
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10-16-2013, 06:10 AMBardoAccording to Testing posted to Reddit- Foe Requiem Testing, Venomous Bite/Windbite/Flame Arrow are all actually applied as Physical damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmegaXtc
This can be tested by casting them on the Soldiers in turn4 that are immune to physical damage.
According to all testing so far, Foe Req only works with Blm and SMN attacks, regardless of what tooltips say. -
10-16-2013, 06:51 AMOmegaXtcThat's fantastic info. Not many in turn five right now, so that's great confirmation!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bardo
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10-16-2013, 10:21 AMViridianaAnd WHM, according to testing done in this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bardo
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10-17-2013, 01:08 AMBardoGood catch. I always forget about WMH and SCH damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
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10-17-2013, 01:44 AMfauxpasfoe works with bard dots.... its been provenQuote:
Originally Posted by Bardo
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10-17-2013, 02:13 AMPessimiStickIt's been proven not to, you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by fauxpas
The tooltip is misleading/wrong. It increases magic damage. i.e.: Damage dealt by casters. It doesn't affect any Tank/Melee/BRD abilities. -
10-17-2013, 02:28 AMNysneirdreCitation and actually proof would be fantastic. Feel free to post links.Quote:
Originally Posted by fauxpas
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10-17-2013, 02:36 AMMikedizzyI don't have the link but trust me it does not work with Windbite or Venomous Bite. There was a post where the guy applied it both ways and watched the damage tick down and there was nothing. This reduces elemental damage resistance which is a buff for BLM and SUMM using elementals. I wish it did but that would be too good and even more people would be bitching about us BARDS being over-powered. Does work great throwing up Foe with Battle voice right before Nails come up on Ifrit though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nysneirdre
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10-17-2013, 03:37 AMViridianahttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...hanics-TestingQuote:
Originally Posted by fauxpas
http://ns.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comment...d_foe_requiem/
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10-17-2013, 03:26 PMLecreuset
Wow, really? Just use it after the tank pulls.. Another group nearby? Position yourself better.
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10-17-2013, 03:39 PMTua
B-but it's fun aggroing a Dullahan all the way from the very last floor of AK by using the teleporter from the first boss with Foe Requiem on.
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10-18-2013, 04:54 PMDarwyn_Ulondarr
Any rough explanations on how wide the aggro radius / song distance is? I know the specifications state 20 yards (same as other songs), but I suppose I'm terrible at distance measuring. Maybe I'll head out into the field solo and see what all I can aggro and roughly what distance it is when I'm next able to log in.
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10-18-2013, 08:44 PMNysneirdreThank you for the links and actually attempting to test it instead of adding troll posts like Mr. Fauxpas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
On the note of actual reasoning on it not working with the bards own skills, they might have considered it at one point but felt it was boosting the Bards damage so decided to take it away from us from working with the skills. It would be nice if it did but the raging about the bard is bad enough as it is now with the current ability setup.