Gold (Gil) Farmers and the Blacklist..

What is SE's solution for the gold farmer spam pandemic?

It's annoying that I am spammed constantly with /tells from them, but I can deal with that. My concern is the blacklist size. As of this post, I'm sitting at 64/200 on my blacklist. Every one of them is a gold farmer who has either sent me a /tell or on /yell. When my blacklist hits 200/200, I will have a problem. It seems that they're not deleting the toons anymore and the list is starting to fill up. With that I have 2 suggestions.

First: Expand the capacity of the blacklist to a minimum of 1,000 entries for now to lessen the current chances of running out of space. I've already used over 1/4 of my blacklist on these farmers and at this rate, I will hit 200/200 in a couple of months.

Second: Review the chat logs of characters on people's blacklist. If it's gold farmer spam, mute them indefinitely, forcibly delete those specific characters, or ban their accounts and start blocking IP addresses.

That's my $0.02.

My suggestion: have a few hired 24/7 live GM for each server to monitor chat spam and other activities going on in each city and everywhere. But its not gonna happen because they are too greedy to pay for GM to do that. Its their problem, and we have to deal with their problems? that's crazy!

The accounts don't belong to them. They are stolen. Taking any form of punitive action against those accounts does nothing to harm RMT.

Its all about the Profits with SE. Blanket bans every now and then so the bots will have to rebuy the game. They dont really care as long as they profit. FF 11 was the same way, SE is almost as bad as EA when it comes to that stuff. $$ over QQ

At the moment I consider the gill seller spam and black listing them as a side game, every city you go to you run into consistant spam between 4 or 5 sellers hitting their macro as fast as they can. its so annoying and just as annoying to blist all of the shouts and yells. we desperately need a right click report spam feature as well as an auto Blist when you report them. that Blist should not count against your limit when you use the auto report spam feature. its totally out of control.

SE is doing their job on RMTs. You guys have to take into account that there are about 62 servers and when you have 100s of accounts being hacked and new accounts being made it is going to take time for SE to weed out who has been hacked so those people can get their accounts back.

The tells/shouts don't seem so bad on my server these days. Down to adding about 2 or 3 ppl every few days. When the RMTs first started I was adding what seemed like 2-3 ppl every time I zoned. I have over 100 ppl on my Blist and every few days I see (Deleted) where someone's name use to be so that frees up a space.

Even if nothing is done to curb the amount of them, at least increase the blacklist size A LOT. While you're at it, give us an option to click their name to add them to it instead of having to go through gyrations of getting their keyboard facesmash name pasted into the add box.

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Originally Posted by Azaroth

My suggestion: have a few hired 24/7 live GM for each server to monitor chat spam and other activities going on in each city and everywhere. But its not gonna happen because they are too greedy to pay for GM to do that. Its their problem, and we have to deal with their problems? that's crazy!

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That is VERY expensive. Very very expensive, and un-necessary for the most part.
It would be a waste of resources having someone patrol /shout.

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Originally Posted by Jaxyl

As of this post, I'm sitting at 64/200 on my blacklist. Every one of them is a gold farmer who has either sent me a /tell or on /yell. When my blacklist hits 200/200, I will have a problem. It seems that they're not deleting the toons anymore and the list is starting to fill up.

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1: When you get close to cap, just delete the oldest ones. Those accounts are likely banned anyways.

2: They don't delete characters when they ban accounts. Just because a name doesn't show as (deleted) doesn't mean that it's still active.

I think you mean Gil Sellers... Nothing wrong with farming way to make Gil!

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

1: When you get close to cap, just delete the oldest ones. Those accounts are likely banned anyways.

2: They don't delete characters when they ban accounts. Just because a name doesn't show as (deleted) doesn't mean that it's still active.

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Here's what's happened when it says, "(deleted)":

The account is stolen, and the RMT create a character on that account to spam or do other things necessary to operate their business anonymously. Before they logoff that account, they delete the characters they made in order to cover any tracks. They don't want the real owner to know someone else has been using the account, and if the real owner sees characters they didn't create, this is the first warning sign. So long as the real owner does not know, they likely won't change their password, and that account will still be used by RMT until subscription runs out or it gets banned.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

SE is doing their job on RMTs.

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ROFL 10 character

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Originally Posted by Toddmounts69

Its all about the Profits with SE. Blanket bans every now and then so the bots will have to rebuy the game. They dont really care as long as they profit. FF 11 was the same way, SE is almost as bad as EA when it comes to that stuff. $$ over QQ

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The problem is most of those accounts are stolen or were bought using stolen CC info.. SO in the end SE makes little to no money off them.

My blacklist is getting dangerously full. It's no longer a problem though as my trial time is up and I'm not really interested in paying to log in till they fix more stuff.

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Originally Posted by Soulscare

I think you mean Gil Sellers... Nothing wrong with farming way to make Gil!

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Yeah.. lol. Gold-farmer = older MMO term associated with the "BUY MMO GOLD NOW!" Websites, but everyone here gets the gist.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

The accounts don't belong to them. They are stolen. Taking any form of punitive action against those accounts does nothing to harm RMT.

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You can't say that about every account. It's pretty obvious when their name is Bbsjkd Okdja, it's a gil seller.

My account was hacked and he spammed on my 50 for 14+ hours, I was on HEAPS of black lists. It was my fault for having a weak password and no authenticator... regardless.

my only option was to reroll completely...and this is coming from a 50 bard with full DL and relic... they need counter measures for crap like this because it's not fair on the person that was hacked to be on heaps of black lists.

Account Compromised? once you recover the account it should wipe you from every black list.

FFxi had similar issues, it wont be long until these outlaws will respect the ToS and laws of Eorzea. For now the free trial period is coming to a close, lets see how much they plan to stick around.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

The accounts don't belong to them. They are stolen. Taking any form of punitive action against those accounts does nothing to harm RMT.

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Pretty much this since I am a victim of being hacked currently trying to get my account back/reactivated.