Looks like even the RMTs think the special task force is a joke.

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05-16-2011, 02:23 PM
BlackomegaKingofwaffles

Looks like even the RMTs think the special task force is a joke.

http://i.imgur.com/hKDn6.jpg

They just keep getting more noticeable.
05-16-2011, 02:24 PM
TheVedis

we already have multiple threads about rmts and bots, did we really need another
05-16-2011, 02:25 PM
Joeking

What is this task force you speak of? I do not know of its existence.
05-16-2011, 02:29 PM
Corrderio

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

we already have multiple threads about rmts and bots, did we really need another

Wouldn't be general without multiple threads
05-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I see they're changing their tactics, they're not using Lalafells.
05-16-2011, 02:52 PM
Joeking

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I see they're changing their tactics, they're not using Lalafells.

They don't to be stealthy anymore, soon they will pick Roegadyn's.
05-16-2011, 02:57 PM
rainfish

It amazes me people expect all these extra special customer service staff to be working on FFXIV when none of us pay a subscription fee, you realise these people would need to get paid a salaray right?

There is no special task force in any serious way for FFXIV yet, it's still in development.

RMT and botting/cheating is to be encouraged currently, since it's in development still this is the time they can change the game to counter this stuff.
05-16-2011, 02:58 PM
Mack

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

we already have multiple threads about rmts and bots, did we really need another

yes........
05-16-2011, 02:59 PM
Kilta_Firelotus

Again STF is down for ffxiv till we start paying. Due to changes to the game, just keep reporting since ffxi's may come in for extreme cases. But honestly, that can be a joke LS name. It is a bit funny and a complete "der" with a massive vages neon sign. (only in vages is can a junk pile be a tourist attaction, IE the casino sign graveyard)
05-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Kilta_Firelotus

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Originally Posted by rainfish

It amazes me people expect all these extra special customer service staff to be working on FFXIV when none of us pay a subscription fee, you realise these people would need to get paid a salaray right?

There is no special task force in any serious way for FFXIV yet, it's still in development.

RMT and botting/cheating is to be encouraged currently, since it's in development still this is the time they can change the game to counter this stuff.

some of your info is incorrect and a down right LIE.
05-16-2011, 03:33 PM
Isaaru

lol the linkshell is named China Bots Money...
05-16-2011, 03:51 PM
Seif

I can't be too angry with bots since they seem to be the main reason why there's at least something on sale at the wards. Besides gil is pretty meaningless in this game anyway so do you people really care that much?

Honestly in all years I've played XI I haven't that RMT is ruining my game experience even once. It just seems like something people complain a lot about considering how little they affect a normal player.

If anything I hope RMT manages to hike up the prices so that I feel like my gil is worth something. I miss saving up for a piece of good equipment.
05-16-2011, 03:58 PM
Rau

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Originally Posted by BlackomegaKingofwaffles

http://i.imgur.com/hKDn6.jpg

They just keep getting more noticeable.

He has a point. Did anyone even look at the link? They're laughing at us and SE.
05-16-2011, 04:06 PM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Rau

He has a point. Did anyone even look at the link? They're laughing at us and SE.

I looked at it and I can't do anything about it.
05-16-2011, 05:38 PM
Radaghast

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Originally Posted by Seif

I can't be too angry with bots since they seem to be the main reason why there's at least something on sale at the wards. Besides gil is pretty meaningless in this game anyway so do you people really care that much?

Honestly in all years I've played XI I haven't that RMT is ruining my game experience even once. It just seems like something people complain a lot about considering how little they affect a normal player.

If anything I hope RMT manages to hike up the prices so that I feel like my gil is worth something. I miss saving up for a piece of good equipment.

RMT destroyed FFXI's market at one point. Ridiculous prices like basic crystals going for 20k+ each. That was during the rusty hat exploit though so basically everyone including RMT were doing it.

Endgame you always had the RMT's camping mob triggers and competing with them for NM's, it wasn't fun.

With how easy money is to get they're probably sitting on billions by now. Good luck buying that piece of gear once that money enters the mainstream.
05-16-2011, 05:56 PM
Jynx

Why even worry about RMT at this point in time? It's not like anyone is actually buying gil or items for this game...and if they do thats just downright hillarious.

Once RMT becomes an issue that needs resolving SE can and will let them wander around unless they catch them botting or something to that extent. No reason to divert any resources to fight a problem that doesn't exist.
05-16-2011, 05:56 PM
Sephr

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

some of your info is incorrect and a down right LIE.

Ironic, considering the majority of the BS you spouted for a good 2000 posts before you started playing the game (and even now you claim to but don't show your actual character, but think that stupid disclaimer actually means something) was incorrect, often due to not actually experiencing the content.
05-16-2011, 06:18 PM
Keith_Dragoon

They were always like that. In XI I was in a,shell called qian duo duo which in Chinese translates to lots and lots of money. The pearl was even the same color as gil but I never noticed until my name popped up on task force logs.

After that my friend told me he was a rmt and apologized for getting me involved.
05-16-2011, 06:58 PM
Kafeen

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

Again STF is down for ffxiv till we start paying. Due to changes to the game, just keep reporting since ffxi's may come in for extreme cases. But honestly, that can be a joke LS name. It is a bit funny and a complete "der" with a massive vages neon sign. (only in vages is can a junk pile be a tourist attaction, IE the casino sign graveyard)

Source?

I don't think the STF go around looking for people wearing low level gear. Its more, monitoring strange transactions, investigating players that have been reported by players, and possible other methods too. But they're unlikely to be monitoring players who don't upgrade their equipment.
05-16-2011, 09:31 PM
Youngblood

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Originally Posted by Isaaru

lol the linkshell is named China Bots Money...

I wanna join! :D
05-17-2011, 12:16 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

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Originally Posted by Seif

I can't be too angry with bots since they seem to be the main reason why there's at least something on sale at the wards. Besides gil is pretty meaningless in this game anyway so do you people really care that much?

Honestly in all years I've played XI I haven't that RMT is ruining my game experience even once. It just seems like something people complain a lot about considering how little they affect a normal player.

If anything I hope RMT manages to hike up the prices so that I feel like my gil is worth something. I miss saving up for a piece of good equipment.

that was the issue prices were so jacked up at higher levels that one was about forced to buy gil to get it. Mostly due to the "requirement" from min/maxers. Plus those trying to get items from nm before the item changes was near impossible.
05-17-2011, 12:21 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

Source?

I don't think the STF go around looking for people wearing low level gear. Its more, monitoring strange transactions, investigating players that have been reported by players, and possible other methods too. But they're unlikely to be monitoring players who don't upgrade their equipment.

You report them, and they look into the reports occassionaly (the ffxi team) and if the same rmt is reported x amount of times they will ban them after looking into it. If rmt go unreported sept for say 4 ppl, they may not do anything. My source is several threads about rmt and ppl seeing the ones they reported gone. Just because ffxiv's STF is down, don't mean rmt isn't against the policy.
05-17-2011, 12:22 AM
sketch

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Originally Posted by Seif

Honestly in all years I've played XI I haven't that RMT is ruining my game experience even once. It just seems like something people complain a lot about considering how little they affect a normal player.

lol thats not wat i remember seeing in 11, they were a constant annoyence if u were lvling in percific zones till se decided to go to war with them and they constantly made it a pain if u were returning to the game after long periods of not playing.
oh and there deaths pretty much killed the eco but hey..
05-17-2011, 12:27 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

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Originally Posted by Sephr

Ironic, considering the majority of the BS you spouted for a good 2000 posts before you started playing the game (and even now you claim to but don't show your actual character, but think that stupid disclaimer actually means something) was incorrect, often due to not actually experiencing the content.

I was more saying about the "rmt is encouraged" bit. My post count or character has nothing to do with anything. It is a pain in the butt to change the siggy, and 1/2 the item I don;t even stick to a character. When I do i may change it. But it is so childish to base your opinion on just appearences. I even if my siggy shows a low end character, I may have an alt with many 50s. Nut character levels are nothing when you log off the game. And infact they are just numbers and do not truely show experience anyone can have a 50 in this game w/o knowing anything. Italso happen in ffxi. No one here is an ffxiv expert yet. the game is not even a year old.
05-17-2011, 12:29 AM
BornToEnd

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7...0510114934.png

Saw these last week on Cornelia. Though it could be someone multi-boxing, still kind of annoying.
05-17-2011, 12:32 AM
Abriael

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Originally Posted by BlackomegaKingofwaffles

http://i.imgur.com/hKDn6.jpg

They just keep getting more noticeable.

Can you *demonstrate* that they are RMT?

Because if you can't, then you're faced by the same problem the special task force faces. As long as there's someone behind the keyboard of those characters there's absolutely nothing the STF can do. Dual (or multiple) boxing isn't against the TOS of any MMO.
05-17-2011, 12:44 AM
TheVedis

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Can you *demonstrate* that they are RMT?

Because if you can't, then you're faced by the same problem the special task force faces. As long as there's someone behind the keyboard of those characters there's absolutely nothing the STF can do. Dual (or multiple) boxing isn't against the TOS of any MMO.

yeah and thats something people dont understand

just cuz it has a dumb name, and is on auto follow doesnt mean its going to be catchable as a bot/rmt

there are serveral ways to avoid detection when investigated(even if you dont know you are being investigated) and being on auto follow isnt illegal unfortunately for the most part. if you got someone multiboxing as long as he is at the keyboard, its legal(and its very easy to be at 8 keyboards at once)

however if its a program auto following.....thats catchable
if they arent at the keyboard and cant respond etc etc, and various other things, thats illegal

thats how STF determines who is illegal and who isnt, they have their procedures, and "not responding to other players" isnt one of them nor "having dumb names and being on auto follow"
though that is one way it gets their attention for investigation if people actualy report them like they are supposed to
05-17-2011, 01:51 AM
Dargoth_Draconia

You ever think about the possibility of Yoshi-P using his full team to get the new content out asap? Why worry about RMT now they aren't messing anything up with the current economy. They will probably get thrashed after the content starts rolling out.