Letter from the Producer XX was a loooong time ago. I think this needs to once again hit the lime light to remind people of what the original plan for the game was.
So if you wanted a sandbox MMO you are going to be disappointed.
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Letter from the Producer, XX (10/14/2011)
Hello everyone! Yoshi-P here, back for my twentieth letter.
How’d you like the live producer letter last week? People watching in some regions (such as Germany) or on smartphones seemed to have a bit of trouble. To all of you who took the time to tune in outside of Japan, I apologize for the lack of subtitles and real-time interpretation, but I hope that the Twitter updates kept you as up-to-date as possible. We’ll be taking all of the feedback we received into account when planning for the second installment of the live letter.
I have to say it was a first for me—to have my face beamed around the word, speaking to the players in real time. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous. We’re planning to do a follow-up to the live producer letter sometime around late October or early November, so keep an eye out for future announcements!
How are you liking 1.19 and all the changes it brought to Eorzea? There are some things we’ve found to be still a bit unbalanced, so we’ve put some tweaks in 1.19a, and have further adjustments planned. We’re looking forward to your feedback!
And then there’s the Bowl of Embers hard mode. Man, you guys don’t waste any time, do you? There’s word of it being cleared all over the Lodestone forums and on blogs. It looks like Ifrit went down on October 8, 2011 at 11:58:33 (JST). Congratulations to the heroes on Gysahl for their world first kill!
You’ve certainly earned the respect of all the devs here. Can’t wait to see how you guys tackle the new primal content coming in 1.20...
We really made a lot of ground with this last patch. Not only did it have a bunch of new content, but it also altered many of the game’s in-world rules. It was the first big step for all of us here towards the new FINAL FANTASY XIV that we have envisioned.
Of course, with so many changes to the game’s rules and style, there’s unavoidably going to be mixed opinions among players—some people who like this and hate that and vice versa. I think the intent behind changes is the important thing, which is why I’m going to keep the lines of communication open with all of you via these letters, the forums, and media interviews.
In this letter, which marks a turning point for FFXIV, I would like to talk about beyond 1.19—about the future direction of the game and the policies I have in place. (It’s gonna be a long one, so please look it over when you have the time!)
Current MMORPG Themes
FFXIV is an MMORPG. And it’s an MMORPG released globally not at the genre’s infancy, but during its adolescence.
There are a ton of other MMORPGs out there bearing comparison, from veteran titles that have seen their peak to fresh new titles just beginning service.
I believe that as a major MMORPG title, rather than as a FINAL FANTASY title, FFXIV needs to be three things—global, widely accommodating, and secure.
MMORPG = Theme Park
I often say that MMORPGs are like theme parks. Theme parks have any number of different attractions—merry-go-rounds, go-karts, Ferris wheels (including those with the crazy see-through gondolas), roller coasters, drop towers, haunted houses. I’m always amazed by the professionalism of the cast of people working at theme parks. They cater to visitors of all ages, visitors with all kinds of expectations and desires, in all sorts of situations; visitors who have all come to enjoy themselves in this “world” that has been created.
Stretching this metaphor a bit further, if MMORPGs are theme parks, then first-generation MMORPGs are some of the most sensationally themed theme parks out there. I mean, you had to put together a balanced party and meet up to play for ridiculously long periods of time. Dungeons with absurdly high levels of difficulty and insane penalties for dying, like losing two week’s worth of EXP from one wipe... And on top of all that, maybe you’d drop all your weapons and armor wherever you died, and have to run back naked to get them. EXP took a backseat then, didn’t it? You’d take a look at the clock and see that it was somehow already five a.m., but there was no way you were going to get a wink of sleep until you get your gear back, and you knew it.
“Alright, throw on your backup gear and meet up in thirty minutes!” I can still hear my leader trying to keep the run together, though that almost always ended in a second wipe. And then? Well, then your eyes were too blurred by the tears to keep playing. It was enough to make me scream more than any theme park ride I’ve ever been on, that’s for sure.
I pulled my fair share of all-nighters, and slacked off work the next day (sorry ‘bout that, boss!). But I could stay up all night all over again just talking about those days, they were that much fun.
But the lifestyles, preferences, and balances struck between private life and work are much more varied for today’s player than they were back then.
The entertainment industry has expanded enormously into the spans of time not spent playing games while at home or commuting, and our competitors are no longer limited to just the games of other companies.
You’ll never hear me say there’s anything wrong with devoting your life to playing games. That’s what I do, after all. But if you keep doing the same thing, it’s easy to burn out, and there are people who can’t keep up. That’s why I think that in the world of the modern MMORPG, which should be everything like a theme park, diverse rides, facilities, and specs are an absolute necessity.
Less Black and White, More Grey
To take an example, there were discussions both before and after the release of patch 1.19 on the requirements for equipping items.
One side was represented by the current in-game spec—that gear can be equipped by anyone, but there are optimal classes and levels for getting the most out of the stats.
The upside to this is anyone can equip anything, allowing them to give their character any appearance they want. The downside is you’ll be gimped if you gear outside your class and level.
The other side to the discussion is what we’ll be adding from here on out in future patches—gear with specific class, job, and level requirements.
The upside to this is stronger, more specialized stats, and clearer objectives for players seeking to gear up. This way is also easier to balance from a dev perspective, and allows the freedom to create unique designs for classes and jobs. The downside is you can’t tailor your character’s appearance to look however you want.
I think it’s good to have both. It’s a bit of a gray area, no? There are supporters for both sides, each of which have pros and cons. So I’m good with having both.
This makes it easier in the early and mid levels to gear up, allowing you to equip whatever you pick up. It also means more ways to deck out your character. But I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having optimal class and level conditions for say, the basic items made by crafters, even at level 50. And now, by affixing materia, you can customize the gear you like with the stats you need.
But when we start talking about powerful items tailored to a certain class, tough-to-get items won only after a series of hard-fought challenges, items that are objects of pride for a particular class or job—those are the items I plan to put strict conditions on.
Pimp gear for walking around town, gear for doing light party content, gear for doing full party content—I want you to have the freedom of choice for all of your gear, and I hope you’ll all go after the items you want based on your own style of play. I think that’s the way it should be. It’s not a binary yes-or-no argument, but a matter of choices and degrees. We’ve received a ton of feedback on 1.19, and are doing our best to address it. If you feel something’s missing, or that things are too one-sided, I hope you’ll continue to let us know!
Matching Casual and Heavy Players
Online games have a hierarchy to them, or at least that’s what I like to call it. It’s often described using a pyramid, the width of the pyramid being representative of the number of players. At the peak are the hard-cores—the minority of players who completely immerse themselves in the game, playing day and night and often forgetting their biological imperatives. As you work your way down the pyramid, players become increasingly casual. It bears mentioning that this model illustrates the quantity of players only, not quality.
In the first generation of MMORPGs, the pyramids were skinny and tall. In the current generation, while I think the peak should still stay way up there, the slopes projecting down from it should be less extreme. What I want to make is a theme park where both casuals and hard-cores can exist and play together. That’s the minimum requirement I think a modern MMORPG should fulfill.
I hope you heavy gamers out there will hurry to clear the game’s latest contents. I hope you beat Ifrit before anyone else and get those new weapons. I hope other players will see you and want to do the same. I hope you try and clear the beastman strongholds with less than the maximum number of players. And I hope you post on the forums about all your accomplishments.
I hope you more casual players will enjoy traveling around Eorzea by chocobo and airship with your in-game and real-life friends while working your way up to end-game content like the Ifrit fight. By then, the battle strats will be worked out, and you’ll be able to fight at your own pace. There’s no need to rush. Both play styles have their place. Should the need arise, we’ll look into adjusting the level of difficulty, or introducing a system that lets you set it yourself.
For any given content, the difference in the amount of time players need to figure it out and get the loot will unavoidably vary.
Hard-core gamers are hard-core gamers because they are always leading the charge. Following close behind their trailblazing are the “mid-cores.” And then there’s the casual gamers making progress at their own pace.
To realize the ideal we have in place, we need a powerful matching system capable of connecting all of these players, whatever their rates of progression might be. We plan to study what other MMORPGs have achieved here, and make it one of our main tasks as we move forward, together with add-ons and the UI.
Speaking of the UI, we are well aware that there are still difficulties with the mouse/keyboard interface. I’m a mouse/keyboard man myself, so believe me when I say I plan to continue making both little and big improvements with global standards in mind.
The ideal we’ve put in place may be a bit up there, but we have every intention of achieving it, and will do everything in our power to do so.
The FINAL FANTASY Feel
Like I said above, the majority of changes and additions made to FFXIV from here on out won’t be so black-and-white, yes-or-no, all-or-nothing in nature, as we’ve already taken care of a lot of the stuff that was. Content specs will depend on who that content is intended for, such as casual or heavy users. Maybe it’s best to think that there will be both black and white, but in different proportions in different areas of the game, resulting in varying shades of gray...if that makes any sense.
Take materia, for example. When affixing the first materia to a piece of gear, the chance of success is 100%. There are seven gear slots in total that can hold materia (though this varies a bit between classes), which is enough for some serious buffing. This is the casual peak that anyone is assured to get to if they put in enough time.
Trying to affix more materia to the same piece of gear is where it gets risky. That next “peak” is a new goal to strive for. This is something that we’ve added with hard-core players in mind. Failing an attempt at affixing any piece of material beyond the first results in a loss of all involved items—catalyst, materia, and gear. As far as peaks go, it’s a spiky and treacherous one, but I settled on the specs myself. Think of it as a challenge being issued to hard-core players. I wonder how the odds will work out... Let me know what you think!
Patch 1.19 had a broad range of new additions and adjustments. I wanted to convey to all of you the intent behind everything as much as possible, but I think there are some areas where this would be difficult, and others where it would just not be possible. (One of those reasons being that not everyone wants to read producer letters this long every post… ^^; )
But we’re pouring our hearts and souls into every system and spec, getting into heated debates about what needs to be done to release them, writing up all the settings, creating the characters, continuing the storylines, and then finally bringing it all to Eorzea. There are time constraints, but rest assured nothing will be given anything less than our full attention.
But we’re only human, so we’re bound to make mistakes from time to time. When we do, we’ll do everything we can to make it better based on your feedback, with pride in our roles as this theme park’s creators and caretakers.
By doing this, obvious yet difficult as it is, Eorzea will become all the more dramatic and dynamic, full of adventure and surprises. And that is the FINAL FANTASY feel that FFXIV is shooting for. I want to make it so that when people think of fantasy, or of MMORPGs, they think of FINAL FANTASY XIV.
And to make an MMORPG like that together with everyone, I plan to keep things lively on FFXIV as long as I’m around!
FFXIV has a lot of fans, and as far as fans go, you’re the best in the world. You’re relentlessly unforgiving at times, and incredibly sweet at others. The FFXIV team and Square Enix want nothing more than to deliver a fun experience to you. We want to build this MMORPG together with you, the players, and make an exciting time of it!
If you need one of these then you are obviously not interested in understanding anything to be quite honest. You cant get a fully flushed out explanation in 128 characters or less. My deepest sympathy for the twitter generation, knowledge will pass you by.
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Yoshi-P's vision for FFXIV
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10-11-2013, 04:41 AMZakarnRosewoodYoshi-P's vision for FFXIV
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10-11-2013, 04:47 AMWelsper59
I think a TL;DR needs to be included. Severely challenged folks with ADD are just gonna look at "MMORPG = Theme Park" and immediately think he's wrong (stupid) or that he's not taking the job seriously. But then again, I don't care to aid folks like that on these forums very much.
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10-11-2013, 04:49 AMZezlar
His vision is a flawed and broken one. You can't have a one fit meets all strategy. It does not work. Not saying at the end of the day FFXIV will not be successful, but it's not something that's going to be remembered for greatness either.
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10-11-2013, 04:49 AMLobsterBisque
So....what?
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10-11-2013, 04:51 AMZakarnRosewoodTL;DRQuote:
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If you need one of these then you are obviously not interested in understanding anything to be quite honest. You cant get a fully flushed out explanation in 128 characters or less. My deepest sympathy for the twitter generation, knowledge will pass you by. -
10-11-2013, 04:52 AMBibimbapMaybe people who can't take the time to read it don't belong in the discussion.Quote:
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Great post, Za'karn. -
10-11-2013, 04:53 AMWelsper59If they can manage to pull off the Gold Saucer to even remotely close to what is the general idea of it, which is basically similar activities like that in FF7 (and then some), I think that'll be a significant mark in MMO history. But then again, I doubt it'll meet that expectation lol. One can hope/dream though. At the very least, the rollercoaster ride is referable to blending in well with MMOs like SWTOR and it's space missions. That's pretty much a perfect example of it.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 04:54 AMBlazeChronicIt's funny because I glossed over it quickly (don't have the time to read it all right now) And the only thing that stood out was - 'MMORPG = Theme Park' exactly like you said :)Quote:
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10-11-2013, 04:55 AMZakarnRosewoodPlease let me know what successes there have been in the MMO genre in the last 10 years and why they were successes. Are they still successes today? I realize it is all a matter of opinion, I just hope you realize this too. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on his vision.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 04:56 AMGroginThat wont stop them from responding. In the end though, making any game in the real world will always be a balance between ideology, praticality, and return on investment.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:03 AMWelsper59LOL same in that it stood out a lot. That's why I used that as the example. I was basically thinking "Welp, there it is. The statement that people would twist to no ends." as I read that.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:07 AMStryker
LOL at the secure part. I think the game has less security than a drive thru at mcdonalds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KnmH4yiObw
Theme parks also have a handful of good attractions. If you ever notice a line at an amusement park. Some lines are hours long while other lines are maybe 5 minutes max.
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10-11-2013, 05:11 AMZakarnRosewoodNope, sorry but just like in days of yore, now that the game is released, this is all we will get. Dont expect any support or upgrades or new content added. They have absolutely no plans to do any work on the game beyond flipping the switch for the release day. I'm glad so many people on the forums agree with me and think like i do!Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:11 AMJess_Spark
Pretty good info. I think the direction of the game based on this discussion is one that will please me as well. He talked about being able to wear what you want based on your playstyle and I agree. He mentions that we should be able to do what is fun for us...isn't that what we all would like? I know I like this idea. Adding housing, gardening etc is a step in the direction of things I like to do most.
I'm happy to read this post from Yoshi and I stand corrected it's not a sandbox thus far but I still believe it has many elements of sandbox. I hope they update this for the current game as well.
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10-11-2013, 05:15 AMRenik
I don't think Yoshi knew that themepark was a MMMORPG genere lol, and i don't see where he says "you're gonna have lineal gear progression, 2 endgame dungeons and everything will be instanced and open world useless".
And where are those "specialized stats" and gear customization by melding materia? meteria melding have caps, and even the jobs stats are caped, i can equip all the MND and dtermination i want and my PLD will still heal 200hp with cure, i can use str gear and mi DPS wont be really affected and the blocked damage will be 1% every 30 str poinst.
this is not a sanbox, not even themepark, right now, ARR is a hallway.
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10-11-2013, 05:15 AMZakarnRosewoodyou are welcome. I remember reading this way back and much of what the Dev team has said and done has stuck with me through the evolution of 1.0 launch to now. I think too many people make snap judgements based on what we have at this exact moment and, like my response above yours, think things will not improve. I want to build a list of all the other things Yoshi-P has said in his letters about his plans for ARR and make another post later on.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:18 AMZakarnRosewoodI need to find the other letter where he explains all the things he want to include in the game and how he knows it will be over a year before his vision for the base of the game is realized (let alone his plans beyond that.) If you were to ask Yoshi-P if this is where he wanted to be at the starting point for ARR he would tell you its not complete yet but he felt there was enough there to release then he could continue to develop it while people played.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:20 AMHiirNoivl
I laughed when he started talking about the multiple Gear sets.
By the time I'm done with the current content I'll have 4 sets for WAR Darksteel, Darklight, AF2 and Allagan.
Sorry Yoshi P, but... this for the most part has been a disaster. I'm speaking honestly here. Hardcore players do not want to be casual. Casual players do not want to be hardcore.Quote:
To realize the ideal we have in place, we need a powerful matching system capable of connecting all of these players, whatever their rates of progression might be.
For this reason, people are ACTIVELY AVOIDING your "powerful matching" system to avoid conflict and enjoy playing the game as they want to.
Funnily enough the opposite has happened. Mission creep maybe? Crafted gear is harder to get than Darklight, to the point where people are buying gil to obtain it. This wasn't even true in 1.0, the success rate for multi melds was ridiculously low even for 3x melds and if you failed you lost everything. Melding is more casual now, but crafting is less casual, requiring more dungeon runs for a complete set of crafted gear, than for Darklight.Quote:
Take materia, for example. When affixing the first materia to a piece of gear, the chance of success is 100%. There are seven gear slots in total that can hold materia (though this varies a bit between classes), which is enough for some serious buffing. This is the casual peak that anyone is assured to get to if they put in enough time.
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10-11-2013, 05:26 AMRenik
@ZakarnRosewood
I have been researching and i'm well informed, i know about a lot of things he wants to implement, that's why i'm worried, i have never seen anything about useful open world content besides roaming primals, and the gear progression we have right now make me think we will never see customization and variety, still subbed and waitng, but we have been waiting sice 1.0, long time... -
10-11-2013, 05:29 AMJess_SparkThanks for that!Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:31 AMBibimbap
A lot of people would be better informed about this game if they knew more about its history. As a relatively weak example, I'm curious how many people know about Good King Moggle Mog and its eventual re-inclusion as "new content." We already had that fight. It was designed a long time ago. A lot of these assets were designed a long time ago. ARR took way more than two years to make, and a lot of the stuff we don't have now is probably going to come back as "new content" for months, even years to come. The more you know.
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10-11-2013, 05:41 AMZakarnRosewoodIn a recent Game Watch interview this new matching system was touched upon which will be coming in 2.1. I hope this is something that will help with that situation.Quote:
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GW: There are couple of things that caught my attention when looking at the forums, firstly you mentioned you will be adding a “party recruit window”, what is this?
NY: In the previous FFXIV there was a feature where you can announce what dungeon you want to go, and can join with roles xxx. For those that want to form parties will look at those and pick them up to build the parties. We first wanted players to use the DutyFinder and decided to release this feature in patch 2.1.
You said it before but in FFXIV ARR there is a community that was already built. When lots of new players come into the world, we didn’t want them to just stick together. The reason why DutyFinder matched legacies and new players was done purposely. By doing this we feel that the distance between them was shortened.
GW: Right now there are people shouting to gather members, so this will help them.
NY: Yes. This was a system that was really welcomed during the previous FFXIV.
As far as this goes, the Crystal Tower will be the start of new equipment coming into the game. They still havent released the Vanity gearset option and, as is the nature of an MMO, there will constantly be more upgrades for equipment and new things added. Like the materia system. in 1.0 there was more than just stat bonuses that materia could give you, this will be making a comeback. Sorry if these things are not coming fast enough for your liking.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:46 AMHiirNoivl
Eeeeh... I'm disagreeing with you Zakarn.
Duty Finder was most definitely the powerful matching system that he was talking about in the first letter. We devoted an entire Beta session to it. Not only did it shatter spectacularly at early access and launch, it's useless for about anything BUT the easiest of content. Duty Finder was something I was looking foward too, and I was profoundly disappointed. The revamped "LFP" system will probably be much better, but Hardcores will cloister themselves to their FCs.
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10-11-2013, 05:47 AMHeiZei
I liked reading about Yoshi's vision for ffxiv, but I feel like his vision and his implementations are two separate beasts. The game felt to me like I had one option at each stage in the game. For leveling, I had FATEs. For philosophy tomes, I have CM. For mythology tomes I have AK. For end game I have Coil. Any straying from that path is not efficient nor is it fun.
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10-11-2013, 05:50 AMZakarnRosewoodI'm not disagreeing with you there, just pointing out that even Yoshi-P recognized things arent working like he hoped they would back then and is looking forward to ways to fix that. The Game Watch interview is, I think, a step in the right direction. At least he is trying and people still want to lynch him for it.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:55 AMHiirNoivlI feel like his vision is still too idealistic. It shows in the way it was implemented with no vote-kick, there was no gear check, no limits on Need/Greed rolls, no penalty for leaving. As reality is sinking in, these elements are starting to be implemented piece by piece. I'm cautious about the LFP system. I'm not impressed with the MVP idea AT ALL.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 05:58 AMSzaaKarna
if everyone read this, most of the QQ threads would vanish
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10-11-2013, 06:10 AMRivienneI have a character on a JP world and while I have had problems with the DF, all of them are english speaking (usually NA) players. I don't mean that as an over generalization either. I mean I have yet to come across a single JP player that has been problematic in the queue even if they don't like being queued with new players. I have had some JP players that were irritated with EN players, but not the trolling or hostile behaviour I get from the NA players in general.Quote:
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The experience on the whole is radically different in the JP only queue on JP worlds then in EN only on NA worlds. So am beginning to think that the reason they didn't think to put some of these features in, is because while the attitudes are still there they aren't as problematic as on the NA side.
Granted this is till somewhat short sighted, but after having seen how radically different behavior between a high population JP server and a high population NA server is, it still makes sense to me how they could have underestimated the potential problems. Honestly as much as I would prefer playing on a NA server because of language barriers, there are times I would far rather play on the JP servers because of attitudes, or at least public facing behavior. (I still am against hard gear checks in general, but so long as it is for DF random only I am cautiously okay with it) -
10-11-2013, 06:18 AMVelhartWhat I can agree upon on a general scale is that I do believe Yoshi-P and his team are passionate in making the best game possible, rather it be it's gameplay, social, or technical aspect. I do see FFXIV being incredible in the long run. To me it is already better than any MMO that has come out since..well...WoW/FFXI. However, they do have a nasty tendency for things to hit the fan on almost everything. Rather if it was congestion, delays, DF being broken, waiting in line for AK, people exploiting so many things, RMT intensity, economy controversies, and so on. However at the same time, this is pretty normal for starting MMO's and just have to let time fix things. I think the difference this time is we have such high standards of SE that people are less forgiving on any actions they do not perform well in. Its fear on both developer and player side because both know whats at stake for this game.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 06:22 AMStrykerProbably the worst sarcasm I've read all day and pretty idiotic. If you read my post the first part is bringing up the fact that tons of people are getting hacked. 2nd part is saying that if they want this to be a "themepark" MMO you have to bring up the "other" attractions. Which in 14 is pretty much everything other than end game grinding.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 06:24 AMQuesse
As thorough as it seems, just reading this one letter on its own is more than a little out of context when compared to ALL of the other letters he has written and course he took with 1.0.
As someone who lived through 1.0 from the beginning and saw Yoshi's vision start to be realized, and read and digested all the letters he has written so far, its not hard to see he has a complete vision for the game that's not yet been realized.
At times I don't necessarily agree with his vision but I definitely don't think its going to be anything half-baked or watered-down. He will and has always intended to turn this game into something full of interesting and unique content with lots of depth for all groups. -
10-11-2013, 06:35 AMZakarnRosewoodExactly. We, as avid followers from Yoshi-P's rise to Producer to now, we can see all the context and understand what is going on better than most of the vocal people on the forums. Even coming in from patch 1.21 you would have missed some very interesting letters and poll results that would tell you exactly what kind of game he is making. All that information is there, ready and available to anyone who wants to read it. Problem is, no one seems interested in understanding when they can just take a cursory glance and complain. I can't wait till the game is in the state Yoshi-P wanted it to be.Quote:
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10-11-2013, 06:46 AMHiirNoivlQuote:
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There are people on the NA side who don't have a problem with it either. Even though the problem is worse on the NA side, I agree, JPs seem to be requesting the same things the NA players do when it comes to Duty Finder. So JPs aren't completely happy with it.
I created a dire-prediction thread on Crystal Tower Duty Finder. Crystal Tower worries me because he was held back and modified to increase it's compatibility with Duty Finder. Yoshi P STILL thinks Duty Finder can work at endgame. It cannot work at 8 members. It will not work at 24 members. LFP might be able to work so long as you can see and choose who you want to join your party, so long as you can see you DON'T want and can refuse or even black list them if they're really awful, and you have your vote kick feature ALONG WITH the ability to replace party members mid-dungeon in the same way: according to your own criteria.
I'm not optimistic. @Velhart Yeah I'm getting a bad feeling about the direction of Duty Finder. When it comes to CT, it's akin to fear. I feel like it needs a lot more features that they're dragging their feet to implement. Come on, implement the loot-roll limitations already. We already have a token system, right? Vote-kick is great! Now let us "invite" people mid dungeon without having to roll the dice again with DF.
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10-11-2013, 07:05 AMEmiliMYou're confusing vision with strategy. If your vision only goes as far as what you feel is realistic, then you won't get very far since you'll never push your comfort zone. Turning that vision into reality is obviously the big challege, but I'd rather have someone with Yoshida's vision in charge instead of someone who simply settles for what your average Joe thinks is realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zezlar
I'm not a Yoshida "cultist" since I don't agree or believe in everything he's said, but I do recognize his dedication and passion for this project and personally I feel it's better to have a leader like him than someone who simply does his job well but in the most boring way possible. As long as he's around, the game will continue to grow and change (no doubt sometimes for the worse), but at least it will not stagnate and die. -
10-11-2013, 01:13 PMAvalon_AlbrookMy success with it, up to and including beating Titan HM in a one-shot after solo queueing in DF, disagrees with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
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10-11-2013, 01:57 PMAleksandrEveryone who complains is invested in this game. They paid their hard earned money and they do not like what they paid for. They are not paying for the future vision they are paying for what they have today. Square-Enix is not a charity, it is a business so if they do not deliver a good time now, well most people are not going to pay several hundred dollars so a few years from now the vision is fully come to past. They game needs to be enjoyable now, next month, and continue forth as the vision grows. I have had fun up until this point, in the future when I do not I will quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood