DD Fate in North Thanalan

So there's this fate in North Thanalan, and people like to farm it and just stand at the entrance farming mobs.

If someone actually does the fate objectives, people begin spamming chat with swear words and insults.

I do not finish this fate, I just go with it. I just do what people say.

Then today I decided to stand up for people being called the c word and I was then threatened with blacklisting, and one person even threatened to report me to SE.

Edited for Clarity:

Was only wondering what SE's stance on abusing players into approaching fates in a certain way is. Post misinterpreted. Carry on.

It's not an exploit /thread

As per Dev Camate

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Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

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Now being treated in that was is horrible, but what they are doing is not an expolit.

Its not an Exploit, but killing the mobs if they're dicks isn't against the rules either.

lol, i remember a thread of someone else thinking it's an exploit and he was shot down hard when people tried to get it through his head that it was fully intended to work that way, i don't think some people understand what an exploit actually is. It's not the only fate that needs certain enemies killed to progress either.

SE themselves said it's not an exploit, but hey lets ignore that fact and have this thread all over again shall we?

Is this the Lamb or Sheep or something like that one? I remember a thread about that one some time back.

It's not about if its an exploit.

You still should be allowed to openly and profanely insult anyone who refuses to play the way you choose.

I didn't defend their right to kill the lambs, I merely defended everyones right to play this game without being cursed at.

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Originally Posted by SolviteSekai

It's not about if its an exploit.

You still should be allowed to openly and profanely insult anyone who refuses to play the way you choose.

I didn't defend their right to kill the lambs, I merely defended everyones right to play this game without being cursed at.

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Listen, Grinding FATES is annoying enough as is, DD is the ONLY high level fate where you can quickly accumulate large amounts of EXP with 1 FATE when people found a way to do this much joy was had, they did not have to wait to long for those long, tedious 45+ dings.

Then when you get someone who is like 'DUDEZ THIS IS WRUNG IMA GO KILL LAMBZ CAUSE THIS IS WRUNG AN DI WANT TO FINISH FATE AS INTENDED!" then when this happens everyone hates you not because of how you want to play but because you more or less throw a grenade in front of a pool party when everyone was enjoying them selfs, so in short it is a D-move. plain and simple. if you are farming items and i just come up and kill all of them quickly giving you no chance at getting the exp, how would you feel?

Simple solutions are blacklist and report harassment.

What I find funny is this is the only fate I really see farmed, when there are tons of them out there that can be farmed in a similar manner. Like all the turn fates, such as Cor Blimey which is in the same zone, or others with specific kills needed like Hear in Coerthas.

That not how it was at all. The person who did it never said why they did it. They may have just not known, or not spoken english.

For that, they were rewarded with extreme verbal abuse involving the c word, and many homosexual slurs.

If you think that behavior is merited I don't even know what to say.

I farm at the DD fate cos its the best place to level my chocobo while being 50 .. my chocobo is rank6 now when the fate start i do it. i dont get exp but my chocobo does get EXP ..it's not against the rules i dont use program or anything. i fight for it myself and hard. Its take so long to level a chocobo

Just finish it every time you see it, the dopes that blacklist you or swear at you aren't worth your time anyways. I find it hilarious to see them rage, like xp is so hard to come by xD "DON'T KILL THE LAMBS F***TARD!!!!111!" Lol, guy, if you think that's gonna keep people from killing em, you're sorely mistaken.
Also I guess finishing it early would be a great way to rid some trash from your server! Just report the ones that harass and curse and finish it, then move on your happyway~

don't reply to them, report them for threatening you, harassment etc... by system, support, contact us and keep enjoying the game.
Pd: remember to add the chat log and the time zone for the date you added.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Just finish it every time you see it, the dopes that blacklist you or swear at you aren't worth your time anyways. I find it hilarious to see them rage, like xp is so hard to come by xD "DON'T KILL THE LAMBS F***TARD!!!!111!" Lol, guy, if you think that's gonna keep people from killing em, you're sorely mistaken.
Also I guess finishing it early would be a great way to rid some trash from your server! Just report the ones that harass and curse and finish it, then move on your happyway~

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So if one guy yells something in shout that you don't like, you go and ruin the exp of potentially hundreds of other people? You're cooler than the other side of the pillow.

You shouldn't be killing the lambs anyway... why would you? it's a win/win situation, people want EXP and if you're killing the lambs, obviously people are gonna be upset.

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Originally Posted by SolviteSekai

That not how it was at all. The person who did it never said why they did it. They may have just not known, or not spoken english.

For that, they were rewarded with extreme verbal abuse involving the c word, and many homosexual slurs.

If you think that behavior is merited I don't even know what to say.

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I think the major problem that you have in this whole thread is that you went around this the wrong way:

You first stated that you thought that a FATE and how people were doing it was exploiting. That alone, when so many people do it that way, will raise the shackles and get defensive.

You then state that you want an answer from a GM who has given one regarding the issue: It's legit.

You FINALLY came around and said you were called names and harassed for doing the FATE the way it should be: That should have been your first and only argument regarding this. I can agree that in no case and form should you be cussed out for doing something that has a goal. No one should have that right to harass, insult and otherwise be a dink. But unfortunately, this is the internet and anonymity tends to make people giant idiots. To this I say: take their name, report them, be done with it. That's all you can do. Blacklist them if you want. You just do what you want to do but know that you're not doing it optimally because the fate allows you to gather a whole lot of XP rather easily.

You just went the wrong way about this thread and your complaints.

I still enjoy all the tears being shed when people think their fate exp is threatened. Hell before the devs came in and told us that somehow this was "Working as intended" people got downright hostile at the thought of not being able to ding any faster than they can allready.

While normally I'm all for people playing the game how they want, this one does annoy me a little. The usual defense that I see for killing the lambs ASAP is that 1) they think it's an exploit not to 2) they are farming seals and so the sooner it ends, the better for them 3) perhaps they truly do not realize the exp potential and are just doing a FATE as they normally do and 4) they are simply arses who are purposefully trolling the FATE to upset people

To those who are using the "farming seals" excuse - there are other FATES that occur while DD is going on. While it can be viewed as selfish for people to ask for you to do other FATES instead, I think it's more of an arsey move to end it early and deprive a huge amount of people the EXP that normally goes along with it. Again, there are other FATES that occur during that time, farm those. There isn't another place where someone can get 80-100K EXP in one sitting.

With all that said, I do think the shouting/name calling is beyond obscene. Sadly, it's also beyond a lot of people to just play nice. And that's not just for the name callers.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I still enjoy all the tears being shed when people think their fate exp is threatened. Hell before the devs came in and told us that somehow this was "Working as intended" people got downright hostile at the thought of not being able to ding any faster than they can allready.

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But the thing is it IS working as tended, there is no "somehow" about it, people being butthurt killing the lambs are usually people that can't get a party for it or simply like others being in misery with them. and i would love to know how you ding fast without fates when all your quests are exhausted and not depending on something that has limited number of tries.

People harassing others for finishing the fate IS childish & rude but finishing the fate when 50 people ask you not to, you going "no I want to do what I want" is JUST as childish & and slightly selfish.
The best route is to ask if anyone minds you killing them if they do DON'T do it, if they don't then do as you please, they're wrong for insulting you but imo your being the main instigator when your literally asked by (what looks to be in that area alone at peak times) 50+ people not to.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

So if one guy yells something in shout that you don't like, you go and ruin the exp of potentially hundreds of other people?

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Wouldn't go out of my way to, but in my experience it ain't just 'one guy'. I actually haven't been in the fate myself, but I've been in the area and seen the shouts, its sickening, idc how much xp gets 'ruined'. Could be a kid playing around on their parent's char, or w/e, and people react like that? To someone playing the game how its supposed to? Smh.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

go and ruin the exp of potentially hundreds of other people?

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Why be mad if someone is also playing the game in a way that is "Working as intended" still get a kick out of that even from the dev team.

When it comes to DD its really a situational deal. Someone killing the lambs naively, because they were in a hurry, or even that occasional one who did it to playfully troll sure getting hostile with is completely uncalled for.

However there are a small minority who will do it over and over soley to anger everyone else, at which point they're griefers and deserve to be treated as such. We had one person on my server, a lvl 50 summoner who for almost 10 hours straight just camped the fate, killed the lambs every time they spawned, than just sat back down waiting to grief it again. They did not even take part in the other segments of the fate or leave to do other stuff in between. They were there just to make everyone else angry without any restraint to good taste. That's griefing any way you slice it.

FYI: I did not fate grind for 10 hours straight (ugh, my brains...), I just did it on and off and he was always there, confirmed having never left by fellow players.

What i do is simple. I do fatesin the zones i am questing or farming in. I generally do not read shout or look atwhat otber people are doing infates. So yeah i do swoop inand complete fates.

While people who start shout flaming over it should be blacklisted, the people who do it just to spite others should also be blacklisted.

It's not one or the other, both are in poor taste.

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Originally Posted by Syrellaris

What i do is simple. I do fatesin the zones i am questing or farming in. I generally do not read shout or look atwhat otber people are doing infates. So yeah i do swoop inand complete fates.

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The fact that you're in this thread proves your knowledge of the legit way people use DD. Anytime from here on out that you end DD early should be considered spiteful, and scummy.

what's the big deal anyway, it only gives you some more exp
i wonder what's the maximum exp we can gain from farming DD mobs?
even if you finish it earlier, you might come to other fates later and will able to finish it

I dont get why people want to end it early. You're able to walk away mid fate and do another one, and still get your reward for the first one you were in when it's over. I don't agree with people freaking out and abusing others at the drop of a hat, if I see people killing lambs I just say in shout 'please dont kill the lambs first, we all get more exp if we farm the others first', and every time, whoever's killing lambs stops and joins the rest. Some people just dont know, admittadly first time I did it I went to kill lambs wondering why nobody else was touching them, thankfully someone in my party explained it to me before shout abuse started.

But people who do it just to make the others farming angry? Now that's just low