I agree with everyone who says FATE grinding is boring. However, we all do it because it is vastly superior to most other ways of leveling. Some people say to nerf the XP from fates, but I think that is the wrong direction.
I think that dungeon XP and drops need to be significantly buffed, and guildhest rewards need to be improved as well. To top it off, increase the amount of XP from guildleves, and make it so the more people in a group doing the same leve, the harder it is and the more XP obtained.
Does anyone else have any ideas?
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10-03-2013, 12:31 AMPrestigeFATE grinding is incredibly boring. What do you propose as a fix to the issue?
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10-03-2013, 12:49 AMEtgar
On average a low level dungeon can take up to 30-40 minutes, but the reward is about the same as doing 2-3 fates. So yeah the exp per-mob needs to go up a lot, as well as a exp reward for finishing the run
Hunter logs are a good place for this as well, there are some mobs that are in dungeons only, for dps classes this is a pain and the exp is the same as kills a mob in the world. -
10-03-2013, 01:02 AMSinth
I have an idea: Do other content.
No one is forcing you to fate grind. Most people I know sit on top of 100 leve allowances. The dungeon XP is not bad, you can gain level up fairly fast grinding dungeons if fates aren't your thing. Sure it's not the fastest, but its not at monotonous as fate grinding, and you can get decent loot for jobs that you're leveling up. -
10-03-2013, 01:03 AMJess_Spark
Add more quests...Buff XP from Battle Leves...Increase Leve amount given (I save mine for crafting)...Add dailies (I heard this is coming)
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10-03-2013, 01:59 AMPrestigeThis is the issue, I know you're right but the problem is the other options pale in comparison when it comes to XP. I just wish that I had the option of doing any of those, and they all had the same outcome as FATE grinding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinth
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10-03-2013, 02:32 AMYsarel
One fairly simple thing that could really help dungeon EXP is adjusting monster levels so that they're not set at the lowest level to enter the dungeon. The moment you level past that you lose EXP chains and your EXP/hr drops off dramatically.
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10-03-2013, 04:58 AMXenob
Whoops wrong thread.
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10-03-2013, 05:02 AMGooner_iBluAirJGR
Use the exp chain system. Make a group>> Find a pack of monsters a few levels above you>>> kill
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10-03-2013, 05:05 AMMoontide
#1: Big buff to battleleves.
#2: Daily XP/gil bonus to dungeons and guildhests if it's the first time that day.
#3: Difficulty scaling to FATEs (monsters level up depending on participant amount though the rewards stay the same, maybe some extra-hard enemy pop-ins if some massive FATE train comes in etc).
#4: Automatical FATE party join when you/one of your party enters the blue circle (sort of like Rift has, I think).
#3 would also make the dungeons more interesting due to people in FATEs starting to be in danger of getting KO'd unless they had at least middling gear for the level. -
10-03-2013, 05:25 AMFuz
Buff battle leves exp. It's ridiculous right now, and totally not worth neither the allowance cost nor the time.
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10-03-2013, 05:33 AMWhiz
If fates are so boring don't do them just level up at a slower pace doing something u enjoy. Why are you in a rush to lv a 2nd 50 just take your time 2nd time around and enjoy yourself and the game.
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10-03-2013, 05:33 AMglen7187#3 i don't think would be practical as people may just be running by and join the FATE but then leave the FATE... then the difficulty could be too high for the few that are really participating... and if you have the difficulty lower too then then it would be a rollercoaster of scaling cause of the people joining and leaving the FATEQuote:
Originally Posted by Moontide
#4 would hurt people who are in the duty finder. cause i like to queue in the DF then FATE grind while i wait. if i join a party it automatically kicks me out of the DF so i wouldn't be able to do FATEs... -
10-03-2013, 05:53 AMFuzI've already done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiz
I had quests. -
10-03-2013, 06:07 AMMoontide#3 I don't see how in the same vein the next bunch of enemies wouldn't be able to scale back down to lower levels and/or numbers if people leave. That's how it works on GW2 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by glen7187
#4 Your argument sounds more like a duty finder problem. It just needs "leave your current party to attend to the Duty now" mechanic. You already should need that due to your chocobo companion too. -
10-03-2013, 06:21 AMMartin_Arcainess
When I got tired of Fate Grinding I always found that Dungeons where a good way to level up and don't forget the EXP bonus like Rest, Well fed and I think a FC action gives you another EXP boost from battles.
I don't think Mobs in dungeons need a EXP boost. Considering you are getting loot as well where you wouldn't get loot from Fates. I'm a LV20 Conjurer *2nd class* and I've done copperbell mines twice, got myself some awesome loot and each time I entered I leveled up. -
10-03-2013, 07:41 AMCallidousThat's your solution for less boring leveling?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR
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10-03-2013, 07:50 AMPrestigeIt reverts back to the old-school ways of FFXI!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidous