Seeing as SE's only response to the 70+ page thread regarding this was to lock it and tell us to post elsewhere... I'm gonna start a thread here 'cause we aren't shutting up until this game breaking problem goes away or our subscriptions run out. 300ms positional delay BY DESIGN isn't going to work in a game who's endgame content's 'challenge' is based solely on how many red spots you can move out of.
If you wanna see the other thread that got utterly ignored: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...fix-something.
Regarding the 300ms positional delay.
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10-01-2013, 06:20 PMNexxaRegarding the 300ms positional delay.
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10-01-2013, 06:46 PMEkko
Yes please
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10-01-2013, 07:17 PMgigi_franaI kinda lost hope in SE and their "fixes".Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexxa
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10-01-2013, 07:35 PMMimiru_Azuresky
Yeah, this is definately something that needs attention. Yet, there is no attention to the issue from SE
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10-01-2013, 07:40 PMradstar88
I am having Big time issues with this!
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10-01-2013, 10:31 PMNexxaGetting there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gigi_frana
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10-01-2013, 10:58 PMMiliant
Well, I'd like to suscribe to this petition to fix this.
I live in Europe, and despite having a very fast connection and a solid ISP, I will never dodge an area attack unless I know it's coming and move beforehand.
I consistently see everyone else in the party being clearly caught in the range of AOE attacks, and then move out unscathed through the blast. I guess this is further evidence of the reason why I keep getting hit though. -
10-01-2013, 11:08 PMRawrrior
This has to definitely get fixed.
me, 2 other FC members and a duty finder Arcanist did normal Titan (34) yesterday for the first time. Yes, we wiped, and then we knew what we had to do after the first wipe. Trial and error correct?
Well. We wiped 5 times more after the first one, not because we didn't know what we were doing, but because we were getting knocked off the edge. We were very much out of the void zone, and yet still we would get knocked off.
This lag issue with the "active dodge" things really need to get fixed.. I spent those wipes screaming over TS last night panicking every time Titan did that fierce punch.
It was fun yes.. But not very fun when we KNOW we were way out of the red and STILL get knocked off. Hope this gets fixed. For the sake of endgame, our hair, and our subscriptions :D! -
10-02-2013, 12:56 AMXenob
/Signed
This is what has been killing my HM Titan fights most of the time. -
10-02-2013, 02:46 AMUnruhe
Anyone bothered by this just needs to unsub.
SE clearly doesn't care that their core game mechanics are shit (see also: the off-gcd thread) and so why should we pay a monthly "premium" for a game that's outclassed by a 10-year-old product as well as many F2P, B2P, or Free-to-Try products. -
10-02-2013, 11:29 AMKommunist
People play because its Final Fantasy, and still 'hoping' they will fix these CORE issues.
Them locking the thread and shoo us off else where is totally uncool. -
10-02-2013, 01:29 PMAsmodeus
Aye tis sad they just closed the other one. Shame on them, they could just have moved the thread over here.
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10-02-2013, 02:27 PMKimimiAvesta
As I'm sure I already mentioned in the original thread, I'm having this issue too.
A redesigned-from-the-ground-up big-budget pay to play MMO from someone like Square-Enix shouldn't be outperformed by F2P Korean and Chinese MMOs localised by companies that have barely been around for twelve months, never mind WoW.
I shouldn't have to sacrifice a goat to the God of L'agg before a progression boss (Titan, either mode), and there's no way you should be providing visual AOE "clues" if I'm apparently meant to completely ignore them and go off either memory, blind luck or a completely different timer (cast bar) that you don't by default let my main class (WHM) see anyway. -
10-02-2013, 03:51 PMKommunist
Demon wall is pretty cool sometimes, knock someone off the ledge 10s after a push, happen to a dps frd last night, whats funny was is thats what was shown on my screen too, he flew off after 10s.
So, there are definitely some server side issues. -
10-02-2013, 06:28 PMcomplexxL9
The core of this game is seriously broken, people interested in end-game pve won't stay long here, unless only games they played before were ffxi and 1.0
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10-02-2013, 08:52 PMSakiaExcept they're not doing their damn IP any favors by being so subpar with this. Do you honestly think a customer will take being snubbed to this degree for a third time? Let alone more times? The complacency and lack of communication is bloody astonishing. Honestly, it goes to show you exactly why Japanese games, sans niche ones, have been such a hard sell as of late. Western developers are totally whipping these guy's asses. It's a pathetic state of events. I challenge you guys to grow a damn vagina. See Betty White if you don't get what I'm saying!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Unruhe
FIX IT, FIX IT, FIX IT!
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10-03-2013, 12:23 AMMujen
I quit version 1 after going through enough deaths when I clearly avoided the move... When they mentioned data centers within US region (I live in the US) I felt a renewed sense of hope.. Unfortunately I did not keep up with the beta, missed the server xfer date and i'm still on that server. I'm having the issues with red outlined abilities. Now that they are going to implement world xfer again & free for the first 5 days I'm at the point where if this latency issue is indeed universal, then I don't know if I can continue. Does anyone feel like going from a JP data center to a US server will improve this issue?
Seriously it's 2013 I don't see how this issue can be overlooked, new content will be awesome but If you're going to get wiped over latency issues then what's the point? (I'm a tank/healer so that's pretty huge deal as my role is critical). And for the people saying it's working fine and people need to react faster.. All you've basically said is keep running when the rotation comes up... that's not even logical.. that's what a player who hasn't been to a fight would do because they don't know how to move fast enough. Skilled players (at least in games with good latency) can dodge abilities and moves almost at the end. It's an amazing game in appearance but it's retaining some major issues & what's up with tab targeting?? O M G & as ppl have said, off-GCD skills aswell, not to mention the cookie cutter linear gear approach to the game.. everyone has the same gear unless you actually have melded items, which only accessories outshine the token-bought item. There is no customization in gear & build. At least in Ver.1 warriors could wear more DPS oriented armor, now they are given the same gear as paladin when the 2 classes play differently & require different setups. Makes me sad, really wanted to continue further with this game :-( -
10-03-2013, 01:00 AMEleganceIf you are in the US, it almost certainly will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mujen
Going from the jp legacy I started on to the US one I'm currently on, I went from zero issues on titan to having to randomly run around and hope.
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10-03-2013, 01:11 AMJustPlainLucas
Signing because I want Titan fixed.
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10-03-2013, 01:17 AMMujenSo going from JP legacy to US legacy made things worse? That's what i'm trying to understand. I've been asking around and many ppl tell me that JP servers actually are better & more stable as they have been around the longest. If that's the case I'm wondering if I move things may get worse for me instead of improve. If it indeed is universal design for this 300ms server check then it's the server and not connection. I've watched Mr.Happy's video on DoTs & HoTs and I was a bit shocked to find out that they all tick at the same time regardless of when they are casted because the servers time everything.. that's probably where all this mess is tied in.. everything is tied into the 300ms server re-checks, including positioning. Running around randomly or casting/using a skill after you move so the server "refreshes" position is an unnecessary hassle & just a workaround that players should not have to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elegance
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10-03-2013, 01:25 AMMujenI get hit with some AOEs in other duty finder instances as well.. last night died next to another player who was 100% fine because the skill went off 1-2 second after I move.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas
This has happened to me also, same video they've been posting: DONT FALL (TITAN). Also Demon Wall as ppl have mentioned. Last night again... was in the middle for repel... no knockback.. so i was like okay... guess im fine.. the cast bar went off and everything... he even moved up closer which he does AFTER repel.. so i went to the side AFTER he moved up.. BAM! knocked back off the edge.. -
10-03-2013, 03:25 AMCrashar
It's funny really as when I would be doing instances on my bard I didn't see too much of an issue, I just thought I was a lil too slow moving out of the area (whilst taking lag into consideration) and got hit by them, then when I got my Whm up to 50 and start doing more instances that have so much aoes to avoid...then I really started to feel it, so many times I had moves well out of an aoe and got hit...it was so bad that it was to the point that I would be perhaps half way (or a lil under) of my Cure cast, I would move out of the way of it and be outside the aoe zone but my character would still finish off the cast and heal who ever I had targetted, for a second I thought to my self "oh win, I moved out of the way whilst still being able to cast" till a second later I would get my health clobbered off...this really needs fixing, it just offers a terrible gameplay experience having to deal with it.
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10-03-2013, 03:54 AMYsarelWhile I 100% agree that the positional issues in this game need to be dealt with, I want to point out that you have two ways to keep an eye on the cast bar. You can set the monster as your focus target and move the focus target bar somewhere more visible than its default location and/or use mouseover macros and keep the monster as your primary target.Quote:
Originally Posted by KimimiAvesta
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10-03-2013, 12:45 PMAsmodeusJust fyi they reopened the original thread linked in the OP!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhanaka
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10-03-2013, 01:47 PMKimimiAvestaI know, but the issue with focus target is that is disappears if the boss jumps/warps, etc and if they're doing something like that I'm usually too busy healing to worry about getting focus target back up anyway. As for the mouseover macros - yes that'd work, but I shouldn't have to macro my entire class just so I can see information 6/8 of the other people in the instance can see just by playing normally. *That's* my issue, that healers have to "trick" the system just to see basic stuff like enmity rank/boss cast timers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysarel
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10-03-2013, 08:19 PMcomplexxL9
I feel like people are giving up on this, either they dealt with it, or moved on to another game.
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10-03-2013, 08:45 PMEleganceThats in my case, because I'm in asia and get better ping to JP, in your case I'm assuming you aren't in asia, in which case NA/EU servers will give you better connection.(All the NA/EU ones are hosted in Canada right now I believe).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mujen
Its do wiith my location to the server, nothing to do with server stability.