PCT: Holy in White / Comet in Black

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Originally Posted by Comet in Black

Can only be executed while under the effect of Black Paint and Monochrome Tones.

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Originally Posted by Holy in White

Cannot be executed while under the effect of Monochrome Tones.

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These should absolutely be the same button.


Edit: While we're at it, even though Red Green Blue don't mention it, Subtractive Palette disables them. Therefore, the Red Green Blue button and the Cyan Yellow Magenta button should also be the same button and RGB II and CYM II should be the same button.

There's no good reason to make them separate buttons when one is impossible to use while the other is active.



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There isn't a good reason for Striking Muse not to just turn into Hammer Stamp, since the cooldown on Striking Muse is 60s and it only grants Hammer Time for 30s--there is no situation in which you are able to cast Striking Muse while already under the effect of Hammer Time, and Hammer Time will never last long enough to overlap the next available Striking Muse. Additionally, Hammer Motif is disabled while Striking Muse is available and while Hammer Time is active. There is no situation where more than one of those three actions is available at the same time. Therefore, Hammer Motif, Striking Muse, and Hammer Stamp should all be a single button.

Starry Sky Motif and Starry Muse are likewise never available at the same time, and should be a single button.

Creature Motif is disabled while you have any monster part painted, so Creature Motif and Living Muse should be a single button.

Are you sure you Set up your option right? Wasnt the Red, green, blue combo at 1 Button in the preview?
Aside of that, would it be simply a 1,2,3 combo

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Originally Posted by Rongway

These should absolutely be the same button.


Edit: While we're at it, even though Red Green Blue don't mention it, Subtractive Palette disables them. Therefore, the Red Green Blue button and the Cyan Yellow Magenta button should also be the same button and RGB II and CYM II should be the same button.

There's no good reason to make them separate buttons when one is impossible to use while the other is active.

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Agreed. Picked it up a bit over an hour ago and it just looked like artificial bloat for the sake of having more buttons on the bar. The Motif skills seem rather pointless too considering the skills they unlock already have a cooldown. The long cast time mid-battle while doing nothing doesn't feel that great either.

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Originally Posted by Keichi

Are you sure you Set up your option right? Wasnt the Red, green, blue combo at 1 Button in the preview?
Aside of that, would it be simply a 1,2,3 combo

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I'm not talking about Red Green Blue not being one button.

Red Green Blue is one button.
Cyan Yellow Magenta is one button.
Any circumstance in which you are allowed to cast CYM, you are not allowed to cast RGB. Therefore, RGB and CYM should be the same button.

Holy in White is one button.
Comet in Black is one button.
Any circumstance in which you are allowed to cast Comet in Black, you are not allowed to cast Comet in White. Therefore, Holy and Comet should be the same button.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Agreed. Picked it up a bit over an hour ago and it just looked like artificial bloat for the sake of having more buttons on the bar. The Motif skills seem rather pointless too considering the skills they unlock already have a cooldown. The long cast time mid-battle while doing nothing doesn't feel that great either.

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I don't mind the long casts that you don't get the payout from until later.

But there isn't a good reason for Striking Muse not to just turn into Hammer Stamp, since the cooldown on Striking Muse is 60s and it only grants Hammer Time for 30s--there is no situation in which you are able to cast Striking Muse while already under the effect of Hammer Time, and Hammer Time will never last long enough to overlap the next available Striking Muse. Additionally, Hammer Motif is disabled while Striking Muse is available and while Hammer Time is active. There is no situation where more than one of those three actions is available at the same time. Therefore, Hammer Motif, Striking Muse, and Hammer Stamp should all be a single button.

Starry Sky Motif and Starry Muse are likewise never available at the same time, and should be a single button.

Creature Motif is disabled while you have any monster part painted, so Creature Motif and Living Muse should be a single button.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

These should absolutely be the same button.


Edit: While we're at it, even though Red Green Blue don't mention it, Subtractive Palette disables them. Therefore, the Red Green Blue button and the Cyan Yellow Magenta button should also be the same button and RGB II and CYM II should be the same button.

There's no good reason to make them separate buttons when one is impossible to use while the other is active.

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I'm usually against these changes, but I actually agree here. It's a bit jarring. I'm kinda treating it as AF/UI spells, but the Holy/Comet is really weird, and I could see the 1-2-3 sharing the same button too for convenience. Updooted.

I've noticed this of the RGB / CYM too, and bothers me so much because it's literal bloat. The only reason I could see both being separate is if they plan something for them in the future.

Agree with the weapon and landscape motif situation too. It feels as if they forgot to give PCT a full pass in the 'redundant button condensation' treatment. They probably ran off budget after doing it for Tempera Coat/Grassa lol.

Agreed. The bloat feels lazy

I agree… it would definitely feel a lot cleaner and streamlined, especially since I want to keep my canvas actions grouped together, and right now they’re on double-tap hot bars.

It's strange we got that new system to put things on the same button as an option. Me personally because picto hasn't got too many buttons I like them being separated but they certainly should be an option like the shield spread.

Yeah, noticed the button bloat instantly.

Also bit sad that continue with the fixed values for things. Why have a bar with 100 energy where the only way to give energy gives you exactly 25? Then the bar isn't 0-100 it's 0-4.

Make the amount of palette gauge vary between 20-30 and the white paint between 1-2.

Also at least merge hammer stamp into steel mouse. Ideally The motifs were merged with the mouses as well, making the cool down being shown at your resource bars instead.