Tank Stances and WHY???

So I know that in ages past, tank stances (Grit, Defiance, etc.) were not actually acquired until after level 15 and therefore in some dungeons were unavailable. However, since Shadowbringers, all tank stances are now acquired at level 10.

Can someone, please, in the name of the twelve, tell me why it is that when you enter a duty now as a tank that is lower level than you currently are that the tank stance shuts off? Even with guildhests, there's literally zero duties that are available under the level at which you receive your tank stance.

PLEASE fix this. I find myself, maybe once a night, irritated at myself for having it on pre-duty then it being shut off once I get in.

Is this only me???

Because when your level gets synced down, all your buff abilities get deactivated - which happens to include your tank stance.
Probably easier to do it that way than having the game figure out which should be shut off, and which should have their effects reduced, and which would be fine to keep activated.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Because when your level gets synced down, all your buff abilities get deactivated - which happens to include your tank stance.
Probably easier to do it that way than having the game figure out which should be shut off, and which should have their effects reduced, and which would be fine to keep activated.

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in stormblood tank stance remained active and shb just undid that QoL change. its not hard to implement because it has Literally been implemented before

How difficult it must be to press one button at the start of an Instance. /s

DNC has to target and then press Closed Partition, AST has to press a specific sect button, and they also need to press their Draw button, NIN needs set up Huton, DRG needs to press BotD before combat, MNK needs to get their Meditation stacks and Form Shift before combat, almost as if other jobs also have to press stuff at the start of a duty.

People complaining about requiring to use a couple brain cells at the start of a duty is just sad. Pressing buttons is not difficult.

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Originally Posted by QooEr

in stormblood tank stance remained active and shb just undid that QoL change. its not hard to implement because it has Literally been implemented before

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I think he/she more means that old stances you only aquiered with level 30, so Sastasha and alike you not had it at all and it was changed due how aggro works was changed overall aswell, combos generating aggro, now only stance does purely.

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Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain

How difficult it must be to press one button at the start of an Instance. /s

DNC has to target and then press Closed Partition, AST has to press a specific sect button, and they also need to press their Draw button, NIN needs set up Huton, DRG needs to press BotD before combat, MNK needs to get their Meditation stacks and Form Shift before combat, almost as if other jobs also have to press stuff at the start of a duty.

People complaining about requiring to use a couple brain cells at the start of a duty is just sad. Pressing buttons is not difficult.

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Well, pretty much everything you have mentioned is DPS with the exception of AST. AST's sects aren't available at level 10. Tank role's responsibility is a little more than just "hit harder" and without the tank stance being on, it is quite possible to get a party member killed easily. Regardless of that, though, tank stances are all available at 10. Meaning there's no reason to turn them off. Downsyncing and disabling abilities that aren't available at the level to which you're downsync'd is one thing. Disabling an essential role action that is never not available for group content is, honestly, silly.

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Originally Posted by QooEr

in stormblood tank stance remained active and shb just undid that QoL change. its not hard to implement because it has Literally been implemented before

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tell that to the team who botched the pet AI. but hard agree, this QOL change NEEDS to come back. there's zero reason as to why it was removed

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Originally Posted by QooEr

in stormblood tank stance remained active and shb just undid that QoL change. its not hard to implement because it has Literally been implemented before

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I'm pretty sure that was never a thing. Here's a video of a Paladin queueing for Shisui with Shield Oath active, and it's deactivated when he gets into the dungeon because he's level synced.

If you synced down, all buffs we removed including tank stance, ast sect, monk fist stance etc, there was no exception in Stormblood that's why players would often have to reapply stuff on entry. Should be second nature to check stances and stuff though when going in to duties, little personal responsibility.

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Originally Posted by Launched

I'm pretty sure that was never a thing. Here's a video of a Paladin queueing for Shisui with Shield Oath active, and it's deactivated when he gets into the dungeon because he's level synced.

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I could've sworn it was an issue at one point, way back in ARR maybe? I remember hearing stories about WARs who had Defiance giving them a bunch of HP, getting synced down for stuff like FATEs, and keeping the bonus HP despite the lower level which made them hilariously bulky. I can't actually find a source confirming it though, and I'm just going off what I heard in the past.