Request: allow the job specific equipment awarded by reaching the previous level caps to be put into the armoire, the level 50/60/70/80 armor showcase the class in an art-style befitting the expansion and it's high time they be allowed in the armoire. the level 45-50 set you get is, other achievement items are allowed in, event items are allowed in; all of which are earned, why cant we have the class specific equipment stored as well? The calamity salvager is practically the same deal, only more inconvenient, ~1k~ gil each item is chump change unless you plan on re-buying every classes items all at once (about 275 pieces in total). Even just allow the enhanced armor in the armoire, more work to unlock the enhanced version befit more benefits, the armor is relegated to uselessness less than 48 hours after earning it anyhow, be it crafted armor, tomestone armor, dungeon armor, or raid armor. There are so many easy ways to get better armor many players don't get the opportunity to see it for long, and having them be job specific only makes the items less likely to be seen, with many more items existing for the sole purpose of glamouring it feels like the JSE is just an after thought. Many people level more than a few jobs and I don't know a single player who doesn't glamour, allowing this feature would be a great quality of life without much work, no new systems needed, no changes to existing systems needed. Just allow the armoire on all those pieces like it's allowed on some already. These armors felt like achievements and milestones to actually get to and there are even achievements to go along with these leveling milestones to top it all off.
Or just increase the glamour dresser by an additional 300 to account for these armors.
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06-28-2020, 09:44 PMZedixArmoire change
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06-29-2020, 07:10 AMEnkidoh
Because apart from the original level 45-50 AF set which is quested, the later AF sets are all gained through special currencies, meaning you can get them repeatedly if you lose them. Hence, in SE's mind, if you have nowhere to store them you're literally meant to dispose of them (or trade them in at your GC HQ for Company Seals) and just buy another other with the relevant currency when you need or want them again (seriously).
Also, the armorie doesn't work the same way your inventory and retainer storage does, what the armorie does is it literally deletes that item from your inventory but also flags it to be restored when you want to remove it from the armorie (this is why it resets any alterations or customization you may have done to it, like spiritbond or Company crests), as it's literally recreating it from scratch. SE limiting the items that can be stored within is probably out of sheer pragmatism - they're worried about the possibility of a bug causing an item to be lost forever within it and so by limiting the amount of gear that can be stored within it reduces the probability of someone losing a rare item to a glitch.
And the glamour dresser just adds to that complexity as it uses workarounds in the game's coding to function - there is a lot of processing data going on behind the scenes that the glamour dresser only adds to so SE are concerned again about bugs causing problems, so they're very carefully making tweaks and changes to it gradually. Unfortunately there isn't much that can be done except have patience. -
06-29-2020, 05:07 PMZedixMinor correction, not all are gained through alt currencies, only the HW ones did that iirc [looking at the wiki now shows that completing the job quests gives the armor as well], the 70 is given by a quest, the 80 is given for free, both 45-50 and the 50 sets are given for doing your classes jobs quests. So if they are concerned about a bug permanently deleting the item, why would they let us put all the event armors that are limited time access in there? that makes less sense than allowing the easily re-purchasable armor in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
I understand making incremental changes in hopes to get to an end result without so many complications, that's a natural way to want to handle a currently implemented system, but to my knowledge they have made no statements about adjusting or working on the issue i raised. Lack of transparency is the main problem, I would gladly accept them saying something to the effect "hey, we're trying some things, not sure if they'll work out or even make it into the game, but we hear your feedback and are looking into it" because then, at the least, they have realized there are comments about the system and are interested in giving players what they want.Quote:
SE are concerned again about bugs causing problems, so they're very carefully making tweaks and changes to it gradually. Unfortunately there isn't much that can be done except have patience.
Also, they just added more space to the dresser, i cant see how allowing more storage could lead to a problem. -
06-29-2020, 06:20 PMHysterior
The armoire is now in a pretty sad state. It is that kind of ARR feature that just did not end up well and are now just... useless / broken.
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06-30-2020, 12:43 AMDrWho2010
just because it doesn't do what you want it to do doesn't mean it's broken.
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06-30-2020, 01:47 AMNezeriusWhile you're correct that not every AF was gained through special currencies, the lvl 60/HW AF was first added to the Centurio Seal vendor, before being added as a quest reward to the lvl 60 job quests in SB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedix
Not sure what you mean with allowing easily re-purchasable armor in there, though. None of the AF sets past the very first one can be stored in the armoire.
The armoire is something of a relic of the 1.0 game, with it having some kind of limit on the amount of things that can be stored/shown at the same time. I remember reading that the addition of the Yo-kai weapons caused a few bugs, before they changed the armoire to have multiple tabs.
It was already around before ARR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
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06-30-2020, 03:23 PMHysteriorYes but it had very little utility upgrade since then. Its sole purpose was to store "special" stuff that we did not really have retainers/inventory for but the game liked to throw at us.Quote:
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I can't recall the last time I could store something new there. Why can't the latest job items fit there when 2.0 ones could? -
06-30-2020, 07:38 PMJojoyaNew seasonal event gear can be stored in the Armoire. If you put your Valentione's set and Rabbit suits from this year's events into your glamour dresser, do yourself a favor and move them to the Armoire to free up space in the dresser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
The reason new job gear can't go in the Armoire is data storage limitations. It was never designed to expand to hold multiple expansions' worth of artifact gear for an increasing number of jobs. You're not talking about an insignificant number of items considering there are now 18 jobs in the game.
Job gear is easy enough to re-obtain now if you later decide you want to use a piece for glamour. You've got the Calamity Salvager for level 50 and 70 gear, Centurio Seals for level 60 gear and Grenoldt for level 80. Discard the pieces you aren't actively using for glamour to save room for those pieces that you are using. If you later decide you want to use it, buy them again at that time. -
06-30-2020, 11:27 PMNezeriusI'm just saying that it wasn't really an ARR feature, it was a 1.0 feature, likely with code that's a mess to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
New event items can usually be put in the armoire. The reason why job items can't be put in there, outside of the 2.0 ones, is because they've been working on making it easier to reobtain said job items, at least when it comes to the armor sets. Especially with the lvl 70 AF being available from the Calamity Salvager at 1k gil per piece, or the lvl 80 AF being freely obtainable off the vendor related to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
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07-05-2020, 12:15 AMMorningstar1337Also the i90 pieces were also originally bought with tomestones. As for the SB and SHB ones, the latter are not obtained by tomestones, but they are also eaisly available if they are lost (for this reason they cannot be turned in for GC seals that that would break the system, sadly)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedix
my experience with Stormblood is too nil to ascertain whether that xpac's AF gear was tombstone-bought or free
Also, The seasonal gear also tends to be available from the Calamity Salvagers/Recompense Officers provided you have the achievement, so its a failsafe.