Warrior Suggestion

Hello! I hope whoever is reading this is having a great day! As the title suggests, the following is my idea for what I believe would better suit Warrior's playstyle and help it stand out from the other tanks. Warrior is currently in a great place, but lacks a unique identity from the other tanks. The following are my suggestions to make Warrior more focused on converting damage to healing to stay alive instead of flat damage reduction mechanics like the other tanks.

- Revert Inner Beast to heal you for 300% of the damage dealt and remove the damage reduction aspect
- Buff defiance to increase max health by 35%, heal you for 25% of damage you deal, and remove Bloodbath.
- Change Storm's Path to apply a shield for 150% of the damage dealt instead of a heal for 50% of the damage dealt and remove the damage reduction aspect.

Let me know your thoughts and have a great day!

Oh wow, talk about OP

You don't need a healer anymore with those suggested changes, plus equilibrium plus second wind, potion and thrill of battle

It's my understanding that crossclass skills are being reworked/removed in Stormblood, so Second Wind wouldn't be part of the toolkit anymore. And TBH, Warriors didn't need a healer back when IB was a 300% heal and people still complained it was underpowered. They complained so much, in fact, that Warrior was changed to what we see today. So the community definitely didn't see this playstyle as overpowered back then as you're suggesting. Even taking into account the additional tools we have today, I do not think this would be nearly as OP as you're suggesting.

Nah it won't be OP if you heal yourself by 25% on every hit that you do since WAR don't deal any dmg at all.

That is sarcasm if there are people out there who aren't able to understand that.

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Originally Posted by Thatusernameistaken

It's my understanding that crossclass skills are being reworked/removed in Stormblood, so Second Wind wouldn't be part of the toolkit anymore. And TBH, Warriors didn't need a healer back when IB was a 300% heal and people still complained it was underpowered. They complained so much, in fact, that Warrior was changed to what we see today. So the community definitely didn't see this playstyle as overpowered back then as you're suggesting. Even taking into account the additional tools we have today, I do not think this would be nearly as OP as you're suggesting.

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It would be incredibly OP to have even more HP, a constant form of Bloodbath and shields equivalent of non-crit SCH shields (my Storms Path can crit to 3-4k which would give me a ~6k shield every 3 GCDs as well as cure me for about 3k HP in those 3 GCDs.

Also WAR wasn't changed because it was underpowered, it was changed because of the way Twintania's tankbusters worked. WAR had no mitigation while PLD had a ton of mitigation. WAR could literally not tank it because Death Sentence would basically 1 shot them. It's hard to use a reactive ability (Old inner beast) to heal yourself when the move is designed so that PLDs would have to use mitigation. Couple that with the way endgame healing works (you proactively cast Cure when high damage is coming, you don't wait for the damage to go out) and it was a mess of overhealing. It's much better to have a proactive ability (new inner beast and vengeance) to mitigate.

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Originally Posted by Ilan

Nah it won't be OP if you heal yourself by 25% on every hit that you do since WAR don't deal any dmg at all.

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LOL

Thanks for the laugh

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Originally Posted by Thatusernameistaken

They complained so much, in fact, that Warrior was changed to what we see today.

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Keep in mind that, back then, WAR had absolutely no mitigation...at all. And that the healing bonus was not tied to Defiance but Wrath. For me Defiance should stay as it is, and Inner Beast could be reverted back to its previous effect...with a little twist. Any HP leech above your max HP would increase your max HP for a short duration.

I'd like WAR to come back to its original concept of tanking by sheer HP and increased healing.

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Originally Posted by Thatusernameistaken

- Buff defiance to increase max health by 35%, heal you for 25% of damage you deal, and remove Bloodbath.
- Change Storm's Path to apply a shield for 150% of the damage dealt instead of a heal for 50% of the damage dealt and remove the damage reduction aspect.

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the problem whit this 2 are how scaling with damage, the defiance buff heal you for 25% + innerbeast 300% heals can be pretty much more with bersek, i mean its become a 325% self heal around the damage you dealt with inner beast?

and the shield/selfheal need to be tie on defiance or those 150% shields on deliverance can be more powerfull that sentinel or by exception they dont stack with healers one, all this changes with the actual state of bersek can make WAR stay in they OP status this expansion, i dont want to imagine a 150% shield in deliverance with bersek.

in any case i put all self heals and shields effect behind defiance and bersek dont scale with ap anymore to have it undercontrol, meaby reduce the effects of someones to make unchained more usefull and act like a virtual cd bcs you can use those shields every 2 gdc.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Keep in mind that, back then, WAR had absolutely no mitigation...at all. And that the healing bonus was not tied to Defiance but Wrath. For me Defiance should stay as it is, and Inner Beast could be reverted back to its previous effect...with a little twist. Any HP leech above your max HP would increase your max HP for a short duration.

I'd like WAR to come back to its original concept of tanking by sheer HP and increased healing.

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And the Warrior would end up close to where it was in 2.0 with similar problems. Not enough damage taken vs self-healing equals immortality/near immortality. To much damage taken vs self-healing equals being to squishy to be viable. Non-percentage based mitigation leads to small viability sweet spots on the immortality curve.