If you're gonna ask how a fight works, why not just look it up first?

This has been bugging the hell out of me. If you're gonna make the group spend time walking you through every stage of a fight before we go, why not save us all the time beforehand and just look it up, first? Seriously. I get wanting to go in blind, but this isn't that. It's just laziness!

I generally do for the rouge idea of it. It's just that with some fights and how the guide itself makes the fight look, worse then it is it goes over peoples heads.

Yeah I've watched a guide but I remember about 15% of it.

But yeah it is nice if people have a rough idea of whats going to happen.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

This has been bugging the hell out of me. If you're gonna make the group spend time walking you through every stage of a fight before we go, why not save us all the time beforehand and just look it up, first? Seriously. I get wanting to go in blind, but this isn't that. It's just laziness!

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Or, some people want to play a video game instead of turning it into a research project. You're expecting everyone else to bend to YOUR playstyle, while refusing to the the same for anyone else.

There's a word for that...

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Originally Posted by Ramath

Or, some people want to play a video game instead of turning it into a research project. You're expecting everyone else to bend to YOUR playstyle, while refusing to the the same for anyone else.

There's a word for that...

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But I look up a guide or two to get the idea what do. is that wrong of me to do so?

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Originally Posted by Ramath

Or, some people want to play a video game instead of turning it into a research project. You're expecting everyone else to bend to YOUR playstyle, while refusing to the the same for anyone else.

There's a word for that...

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I get wanting to play the game and all, but in this situation you're asking the group to tell you what to do because you didn't want to look it up yourself. That's kind of lazy.

If I'm going for a trial I havn't done before then I take 3-5 minutes to look up a video guide. Not that big a deal. *shrug*

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Originally Posted by Ramath

Or, some people want to play a video game instead of turning it into a research project.

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Those would not ask before the first try

tbh if someone says "hi firsttime, tips appreciated" or smth like that in content I don't mind telling them what to pay attention to and spending a few minutes explaining a fight. Patience with newbies willingto admit they're newbies is a good thing.

It's the people that say nothing and are clue-resistant (like not moving out of AoE, doing mechanics wrong multiple times in a row, etc) that really annoy me - I have little to no patience with people resistant to learning and lookign for a carry.

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Originally Posted by Cenerae

I get wanting to play the game and all, but in this situation you're asking the group to tell you what to do because you didn't want to look it up yourself. That's kind of lazy.

If I'm going for a trial I havn't done before then I take 3-5 minutes to look up a video guide. Not that big a deal. *shrug*

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Yes and no. People asking aren't necessarily looking for a play by play of everything the boss throws at you. Just the basic idea so they don't put meteors in the wrong spot (Ozma) or not run far enough for hard tilts (Sophia EX). I can somewhat appreciate wanting to be surprised by the game mechanics themselves in lieu of having everything spelled out. I, personally, get peeved when people continue to make mistakes after I've explained them or they make extremely basic ones in an EX fight. The one exception, I feel, is Savage. Unless your guide aims to go in blind, you should research those fights due to their challenge. As most people use food and/or pots, it sucks to have it all go to waste.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Yes and no. People asking aren't necessarily looking for a play by play of everything the boss throws at you. Just the basic idea so they don't put meteors in the wrong spot (Ozma) or not run far enough for hard tilts (Sophia EX). I can somewhat appreciate wanting to be surprised by the game mechanics themselves in lieu of having everything spelled out. I, personally, get peeved when people continue to make mistakes after I've explained them or they make extremely basic ones in an EX fight. The one exception, I feel, is Savage. Unless your guide aims to go in blind, you should research those fights due to their challenge. As most people use food and/or pots, it sucks to have it all go to waste.

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Sure, and I don't mind giving people the salient points of a fight if they ask for it.

I just don't like the attitude of 'I can't be bothered to do any research beforehand, I expect you to tell me instead. Don't criticise me, it's my preferred playstyle' as expressed by Ramath.

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Originally Posted by Cenerae

it's my preferred playstyle

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The battle cry of every player you never want in a DF party. :P