Vote kick penalty

Now guys I'm honestly getting tired of this, I think we should get penalty to people already who being kicked from party. It's very annoying to see people who just afk until the end doing nothing. I'm one of those who refuse to waste vote kick for someone who's asking cause I'm saving it for real douches.

We get 30min penalty if we leave instance. What if it was changed to 15 mins (or something?) and those who are vote kicked, get the 30min penalty?

so then what do you do with people who kick someone so their friend can join? "sorry, we want to play with our friend now, so you can do nothing for the next half hour"

ok.

let's say you're waiting in dps queue for 20 minutes and get 3 other guys who all queued together. they wait 5 minutes and vote kick you for laughs.

oops.

So trade one form of abuse for another? Seriously, people, think about your ideas. All this would do is make people complain even MORE about being kicked and waste the GM's times with a ton of reports about being unfairly kicked. The obvious solution is to not allow someone who was kicked to requeue into the same group. So many games do this, yet I cannot fathom why this game can't get that part done.

I don't think there should be a penalty for the kicked person, 'cause I've seen/been kicked for no reason. Why should I be punished for that?

However, they should definitely make if so if the kicked person re-queues, they don't end up in the same party. I had a party once where the tank wasn't wearing an oath, pulling everything, and belting out Rick Roll lyrics. And we kicked him 3 times just to have him re-queue and end up in our party again. We ended up having to disband because we all used our vote kicks on him.

I'd say if someone was vote kicked multiple times in a day (lets say 10) then they should get a 30 minute penalty.

Kicking abuse is rampart. Doesn't take much for some to kick another player. Sorry some people are new, learning, and so on. They shouldn't be kicked to begin with let alone awarded a penalty because some don't want them there. I can certainly understand dc'd players or afk players.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

So trade one form of abuse for another? Seriously, people, think about your ides.

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Can't always think, this is idea. Idea that doesn't have to be the excatly like I said.

Plus I for one want to throw ideas out there to see what other people think about it and hopefully make it even better idea.

The punishment for abandoning was to tackle the people fishing instances for soldiery bonus, griefing/trolling or hunting for friends but leaving everyone else in the lurch as they come and go plus those who fished for certain stages of an instance aka boss fishing. The 30 minute penalty for that is fine in my opinion.

There should not be a vote kick 30 minute penalty however on the person vote kicked because vote kicking has become very abused in terms of kicking so some people have greater chance at drops, vote kicking because a group wanted to replace someone with their friend, vote kicking for laughs and giggles by groups or out of spite and as such the vote kicked person should not be punished on top of what they already are in terms of all the time they end up wasting when queued to get in and effort they may have put in to clearing the content up to that stage before was vote kicked.

The reality is there are more people abusing the vote kick system than there are players afking entire instances only to come back when roll for loot and we already have in place a way to kick such players from the group which is unfortunately being abused in other ways by some vote kickers. There should be a severe limit on the amount of times you can vote kick during say 24 hours and combine this with the vote kicked player not being able to rejoin that specific group during that specific run but other than that more effort needs to be put towards resolving the vote kick abuse going on than tackling long term afk non-contributing players.

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

There should not be a vote kick 30 minute penalty however on the person vote kicked because vote kicking has become very abused in terms of kicking so some people have greater chance at drops, vote kicking because a group wanted to replace someone with their friend, vote kicking for laughs and giggles by groups or out of spite and as such the vote kicked person should not be punished on top of what they already are in terms of all the time they end up wasting when queued to get in and effort they may have put in to clearing the content up to that stage before was vote kicked.

The reality is there are more people abusing the vote kick system than there are players afking entire instances only to come back when roll for loot and we already have in place a way to kick such players from the group which is unfortunately being abused in other ways by some vote kickers. There should be a severe limit on the amount of times you can vote kick during say 24 hours and combine this with the vote kicked player not being able to rejoin that specific group during that specific run but other than that more effort needs to be put towards resolving the vote kick abuse going on than tackling long term afk non-contributing players.

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That has been my experience, been kicked out numerous time for no reason. The last time happened just a few days ago when I was doing my duty roulette high level on my summoner, I was kicked just when we arrived at the first boss. When I was leveling pugilist for the cross-skills for my bard and ninja, someone complained about my low DPS and asked me why I did not have the monk job, since it boosts DPS, so I said I was solely doing it for the cross-skills for my bard and had no intention to get the monk job, and I was kicked on the spot.