ST Gear - Possible future upgrade?

Would it be possible in the next patch to make it so that ST gear can be upgraded to i110 with a Sand of Time?

This would give us more gear choices at i110 level, as well as encourage people to still do ST after patch 2.4.

I apologise if this idea has already been put forward or if this is in the wrong forum.

I think if they cared about folks running ST after 2.4 they would have kept Labyrinth and first coil relevant too :P

I can't really agree with that honestly. ST gear fills the same niche here that CT gear did in 2.1; it's a stepping stone between the i110 gear you get from endgame raiding and the i90 gear most people had when 2.3 dropped (weathered gear fills the same niche but likewise takes 1-2 weeks per piece). It wouldn't have been a good idea to let you upgrade the i80 CT gear and it's not a good idea now.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

I think if they cared about folks running ST after 2.4 they would have kept Labyrinth and first coil relevant too :P

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First coil was still run after 2.2, Labyrinth was still run by newer players, which will probably be the case for second coil and ST after 2.4.

However, it would mean there is more stuff for people to do in 2.4 given that the some of the ST gearpieces can be more viable for 3rd Coil. Its pretty boring having a choice of two i110 pieces.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I can't really agree with that honestly. ST gear fills the same niche here that CT gear did in 2.1; it's a stepping stone between the i110 gear you get from endgame raiding and the i90 gear most people had when 2.3 dropped (weathered gear fills the same niche but likewise takes 1-2 weeks per piece). It wouldn't have been a good idea to let you upgrade the i80 CT gear and it's not a good idea now.

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The thing is, there is already a stepping stone this time (as you said). And in 2.4, Soldiery will likely be uncapped meaning that it won't take 1-2 weeks per piece. Given that next patch, anything pre i110 will likely become a "stepping stone", having more options at i110 will give more gear choices and more gear routes for other players to get ready for 3rd Coil and Shiva.

Furthermore, some classes don't even have a gear choice; Dragoon is hit pretty hard in this situation. Sure things will be eased with i110 crafted (assuming they bring them out), but its still very expensive to do this.

some st gear is already super OP. Look at st top and pants for drg, it smashes the soldiery 110 equivalents due to the 27 det ( 9 str worth )

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

some st gear is already super OP. Look at st top and pants for drg, it smashes the soldiery 110 equivalents due to the 27 det ( 9 str worth )

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You could look at it in reverse though; The gear choices for Dragoon on Soldiery is that bad. Bard doesn't have it great either, a lot of pieces have skillspeed on.

At the end of the day, i110 is going to be the "baseline" of 2.4, so giving people more opportunity to get to that, and more choice at that baseline should be encouraged. Just look at the Ramuh rings being increased to i110 as an example to (as well as getting more people to do that content).

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

You could look at it in reverse though; The gear choices for Dragoon on Soldiery is that bad. Bard doesn't have it great either, a lot of pieces have skillspeed on.

At the end of the day, i110 is going to be the "baseline" of 2.4, so giving people more opportunity to get to that, and more choice at that baseline should be encouraged. Just look at the Ramuh rings being increased to i110 as an example to (as well as getting more people to do that content).

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Bard gear is fine. You just have to raid for it instead of using the Soldiery gear.

I am hoping the ST i100 gear can be upgraded to i110. Some of the stats are nicer than the Soldiery gear. I don't run coil at this time so that isn't an option for me now. Making Sands of Time a dungeon or ex drop would be nice to bum up the i100 gear. Make it a daily run like the Alexendrites. As a healer, the soldiery gear was bad for my WHM but worked well on my SCH. It was so bad that I did novus on WHM to fix the stats the healer gear didn't have where as I got the UAT book and unweathered it for my SCH worked great.

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Originally Posted by Valanthe_Liadon

Bard gear is fine. You just have to raid for it instead of using the Soldiery gear.

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Yeah, but is having one gearset to choose from good game design? Do you think having a variety of available gearsets at the step before endgame is good or bad for the game?