Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

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Originally Posted by official_coconut

2 fantasias to switch into the new races. 2 to switch back, because I have 2 characters. One was a Hrothgar for a time and the other was a Viera.

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So what exactly didn't you know about the new races before you switched? Sorry but it was clearly known that hairstyles were limited and that we would be getting more. I'm sorry YOU were disappointed with the switch and felt the need to switch back but there are many of us who are very happy with them and who are willing to wait for more to come.

Calling something broken when it is clearly UNFINISHED isn't accurate. I don't know if you have/had access to the benchmark given it's PC only but I might also suggest if you didn't and if you were unsure about something like this you always had/have the option to create and alt to experience the new races without spending money.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Nobody is gonna forget. But constantly bombarding the devs with "Male Viera" like the chat did during the last live letter before ShB dropped isn't gonna solve or get anybody what they want.

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As I said before, people cross the limits sometimes. But this thread is just for ask about male vieras and things like that, so HERE (and only here), it's normal people to be insistent

I need my hairs asap so I can play my hare. :)

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

or C- Just wait.
All you can do is Option C.
As Proven, A & B aren't making waves. Not saying you can't do it, but I think your energy could be better spent elsewhere. There is more to this game then Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. And Hairstyles or Hats. Plus they already addressed hairstyles...sorta

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And yet a lot of the changes only came because of people not just simply waiting (and being silent on this). Do you think we would have gotten all the new wards after Shirogane savage, if people have not rightfully complained loudly on the internet about this? (Including negative articles about it on other sites) What about the male bunny outfit? They took such a long time but at least were reminded a lot of times that people still wanted it. Look at egi glamours, especially the carbuncles.

If people at such topics just complain for a week and then let it drop do you really think that this makes the change? No I dont think so. I do believe that it would just mean to them "well the negative ones are silent and the rest does not say much, then we can ignore that problem" while having people still complain/talk/ask about it months later shows interest.

And as long as it remains civil, let people discuss things, even if its already done enough. Nobody is forced to read a thread and those that still find interest in it will continue to do so.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

And yet a lot of the changes only came because of people not just simply waiting (and being silent on this). Do you think we would have gotten all the new wards after Shirogane savage, if people have not rightfully complained loudly on the internet about this? (Including negative articles about it on other sites) What about the male bunny outfit? They took such a long time but at least were reminded a lot of times that people still wanted it. Look at egi glamours, especially the carbuncles.

If people at such topics just complain for a week and then let it drop do you really think that this makes the change? No I dont think so. I do believe that it would just mean to them "well the negative ones are silent and the rest does not say much, then we can ignore that problem" while having people still complain/talk/ask about it months later shows interest.

And as long as it remains civil, let people discuss things, even if its already done enough. Nobody is forced to read a thread and those that still find interest in it will continue to do so.

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Yes I do. Because there simply isn't enough Housing for the large playerbase. Plus I think they already had plans for Shiro housing.
Male Bunny outfit didn't need to happen, but it did. Neat. The Carbuncle glamours I wasn't around to see people complain and demand it, but neat it happened...and I don't see anyone using it. At least not in my server, or in any of my Dungeon Runs, Trials and Raids, so bully for those that did want it and are using it.

Depends on whats being complained about. Housing issues? yes, because its an actual issue for those that want it but can't because of hoarders and a small number of wards.
The issue here is this topic has already been addressed, but people are still egging and pushing for more answers. Tons of interviews and whatnot have hard pressed this topic, its been a hot button issue way before ShB's release, they dont need constant reminders about it, they probly are working on it as we speak, but they can't say anything unless they can say for sure if its even happening, and probly wanna have something to show for it before addressing it. If that is the case, all people are doing is just nagging them.

Discussion is fine, nobody is being censored over discussion, I sure as heck have no power and pull over anybody here.Talk on. I don't understand why this is a talking point, its common sense. If I don't care I wouldn't comment or read the thread. lol

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Originally Posted by Quor

I'm very happy with SE's decision to leave Hrothgar and Viera as they are now.

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Oh, and I bet you are dissapointed with how they added the missingg enders for roegadyn and miqote right? shrug*

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

This is not a support thread. I would say maybe 25% of it yeah, but the rest is complaining, wondering if they will be tall, short, or in between. Will they have muscles or be more fem. A lot more "yes it is", "no it isn't" back and forth by a handful of the same people. A nice little thumbs up and less groaning at each other would show more support to SE. They don't want to weed through this mess. They already know some want the gender, a long time ago. What are you going to do next when they might say "no"? Fall on the floor and have tantrums?

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they dont look at this thread fro feedback, they just know a huge amount of ppl want it and its basically almost twice as big as the second biggest thread on this forums. If the devs say no then they can expect to have huge backlash from the community, and it is only fair for someone to complain if they dont like something, specially if that someone is a customer paying a monthly fee for a service

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Originally Posted by zeylos

they dont look at this thread fro feedback, they just know a huge amount of ppl want it and its basically almost twice as big as the second biggest thread on this forums. If the devs say no then they can expect to have huge backlash from the community, and it is only fair for someone to complain if they dont like something, specially if that someone is a customer paying a monthly fee for a service

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Actually, it's not fair to throw a tantrum over something you were never promised and have continually been reminded of the fact that there's zero promise it will happen.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

This is not a support thread. I would say maybe 25% of it yeah, but the rest is complaining, wondering if they will be tall, short, or in between. Will they have muscles or be more fem. A lot more "yes it is", "no it isn't" back and forth by a handful of the same people. A nice little thumbs up and less groaning at each other would show more support to SE. They don't want to weed through this mess. They already know some want the gender, a long time ago. What are you going to do next when they might say "no"? Fall on the floor and have tantrums?

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Yes. This forum post will be full of angry people calling them sexist and homophobic again just like when Hrothgar was announced. Because not having the resources somehow amounts to being sexist, homophobic, and against the lgbtq community...

*Yawns* Ok instead of arguing with people who’ve had it out for the thread since before I even got involved here let’s look at some more fan art. Here are some of @hopefulviera’s drawings of male Viera:

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