Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

Ok ok, thighs sliders then, gotta embrace the watermelon crusher at some point

Bro I'd love a butt, thigh, and pec slider for males! Let's do it! Sliders for both sexes!

With all the fan fest ticket buzz going around, it brought me back to the idea of the Female Hrothgar being revealed at the NA fan fest. Personally, I would like them to be announced at the EU, but I would not be opposed if they were to be part of the NA show.
With that said, "IF" they are announced at the NA show, what would be the likelihood of us getting a benchmark with them in 6.4 - 6.5?

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With all the fan fest ticket buzz going around, it brought me back to the idea of the Female Hrothgar being revealed at the NA fan fest. Personally, I would like them to be announced at the EU, but I would not be opposed if they were to be part of the NA show.
With that said, "IF" they are announced at the NA show, what would be the likelihood of us getting a benchmark with them in 6.4 - 6.5?

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Depends if the bench mark have been independent fully from the game..,
I've never run one before. though I might for 7.0 if they release it with the female roths.

in either case continual best of luck to all FanFest Roulette-rs.., to think it's not too far now as it was the days and weeks before til FanFest is upon us.


edit: might also need to take into account how many changes 7.0 will bring, so if the Races, Gear, etc are also updated on it l.(which, it'll have to be I'd The Female Roths are in it.-I assume, if they come with Graphics update as standard-) then I think many would download regardless.

that is if they decide to not show us other things and Save them for EU, or Painfully Last minute if not JP

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Wh.... we already HAVE mithras. They're miqo'te. The original 5 races are the EXACT SAME as what they are in XI, the only actual difference is that roes don't have tails like the galkas do but if you slapped some tails on them there would be no actual difference. What are you even going on about?? Like, not even trolling, we literally have the XI races already playable here, so please, enlighten me on how miqo and mithra aren't the same.

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Mithras have snoots.

Some people liked to argue that they were covered in fur but the games graphics just couldn't show that, like moogles. And I think when asked the devs said something like "they are if you think they are" because lol who cares.

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Mithras have snoots.

Some people liked to argue that they were covered in fur but the games graphics just couldn't show that, like moogles. And I think when asked the devs said something like "they are if you think they are" because lol who cares.

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And that's literally the only thing they have in common.

Look guys, you want an example to end this ridiculous argument that Hrothgar are Mithra?

You know how people insist the Miqo'te are a replacement for the FF11 Mithra?
You know how even the game acknowledges a theory the Miqo'te come from a race called Mithra?

...yeah well the bleeding Hrothgar lionfolk come from the FF10 Ronso.

None of those look remotely close to the Mithra. Now, please.

LEAVE US ALONE.

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And that's literally the only thing they have in common.

Look guys, you want an example to end this ridiculous argument that Hrothgar are Mithra?

You know how people insist the Miqo'te are a replacement for the FF11 Mithra?
You know how even the game acknowledges a theory the Miqo'te come from a race called Mithra?

...yeah well the bleeding Hrothgar lionfolk come from the FF10 Ronso.

None of those look remotely close to the Mithra. Now, please.

LEAVE US ALONE.

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I want to second this. Ronso are not Mithra, Hrothgar are not Mithra. The people who want a female Hrothgar to play as do not want Mithra. Just like Hrothgar are a beast race option for the males, we want the same option for us females, a beast race. If I wanted to play a Mithra, I would have played a Miquo'te. I don't, cause I want to play as a female beast.

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Mithras have snoots.

Some people liked to argue that they were covered in fur but the games graphics just couldn't show that, like moogles. And I think when asked the devs said something like "they are if you think they are" because lol who cares.

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If you want a Mithra, why don't you just ask SE for a New Miquo'te clan that is just Mithra? But this is not the Thread for it. I encourage you to start your own thread asking for them. But this is not the one. This thread of for Female Hrothgar.

With this, I will second Midareyukki. Please leave us alone. We want female Hrothgar, not Mithra.

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If you want a Mithra, why don't you just ask SE for a New Miquo'te clan that is just Mithra? But this is not the Thread for it. I encourage you to start your own thread asking for them. But this is not the one. This thread of for Female Hrothgar.

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I second this. If this thread were made, I'd likely voice my support given how some people clearly want that race to be added.

Because my opinion of it is: More customization isn't a bad thing, and if anything we have a base for it already. The people who've been asking for this are already playing said base. We have people asking for more race features and more sub-variants. Mithra can be one such sub-variant, and if not, then they can be a new race.

But you cannot come into a thread and only clamour for Mithra. That's not what the players who already are playing Hrothgar want, nor is that what a good portion of players who want and will play Female Hrothgars want.
If you don't want me to go into Au Ra threads and ask Square to turn them into Bangaa. If you don't want me to go to Viera threads and ask Square turn them into Loporrits. And if you yourselves wouldn't do that. Then stop doing that to us.

There is a precedent race for people to draw inspiration from.
We have murals as caricatures.
We have artwork from other games that is going to be expanded upon in the same conceptual vein.
If you don't like this and want something similar to what you're already playing, then I'm sorry but you will have to deal with it.

But you need to be respectful.

I'd be with you all the way if you made such a thread. I know others would throw stuff like "It's a daft idea" and "You're already playing it" too, but I'd support you there. And you might be asking "Well you're not doing that here, so what gives?", well, because this isn't the thread to ask for that.

This isn't an opinion you're propagating. Constantly harping on people that you want Mithra isn't an opinion, it's being dense.
Don't like it? Just stop being dense, it's that simple.

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Mithras have snoots.

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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Y-ARg&usqp=CAU
Yes, Mirthra have Snoots.
However

https://i.imgur.com/lPVI4O7.png

Hrothgar Have Snouts.
How about we keep it that way.

Mithra don't even have have snouts, its a human nose with brown at the very tip. By that logic Hellsguard have snouts lol

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Mithras have snoots.

Some people liked to argue that they were covered in fur but the games graphics just couldn't show that, like moogles. And I think when asked the devs said something like "they are if you think they are" because lol who cares.

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Asking for more customization options for Miqo'te so that they can better resemble Mithra is more productive than asking that female Hrothgar look like hairy Miqo'te, in my opinion.

Most awkward bit about those is that the claws are only present in our Racial Gear. And we can't get rid of the wristband that comes with it.

Racial features shouldn't be cosmetic. You wouldn't make Au Ra scales be something they'd have to superglue onto them with a racial shirt, would you? :s

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Most awkward bit about those is that the claws are only present in our Racial Gear. And we can't get rid of the wristband that comes with it.

Racial features shouldn't be cosmetic. You wouldn't make Au Ra scales be something they'd have to superglue onto them with a racial shirt, would you? :s

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Just got declawed vibes..,
[I know I jokingly thought about how a Fantasy/Scifi medical equipment could effect a specific area in layer levels, and the imagined how it'd work with subdermal things<And then seamlesly put it bacl together like if nothing, and then some reason dreamed that in a XIV race]

But having race features removed just feels Dark at times.., infuriating in some, almost comedicly<April 1st>.., and just why<Reaper Enshroud>..,

I get that many glamour items have claws including the Island Sanctuary Bracers with dyeable nails.

But it gives badshivers

Also some new fan art. I imagined her being an older Female Hrothgar warrior that has lived through the war and bears the scars of years under imperial rule where she was forced to fight for the Empire. She would eventually escape becoming a member of the Bozjan resistance.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpTEGwea...jpg&name=small

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Also some new fan art. I imagined her being an older Female Hrothgar warrior that has lived through the war and bears the scars of years under imperial rule where she was forced to fight for the Empire. She would eventually escape becoming a member of the Bozjan resistance.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpTEGwea...jpg&name=small

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Flavortext is Tasty. Id like Seconds <3

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Most awkward bit about those is that the claws are only present in our Racial Gear. And we can't get rid of the wristband that comes with it.

Racial features shouldn't be cosmetic. You wouldn't make Au Ra scales be something they'd have to superglue onto them with a racial shirt, would you? :s

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If the racial boots were paws, I would've glamour them into everything without a second thought. It's a nice compromise without needing to retroactively remodel every single piece of equipment of a designated slot. That said, I agree they could've at least have claws, it feels...uncanny they have human nails.

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I agree they could've at least have claws, it feels...uncanny they have human nails.

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Its wierd and dumb AF
But its been long enough I can deal with it...Im still VERY unhappy about it...but I can deal with it.

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And that's literally the only thing they have in common.

Look guys, you want an example to end this ridiculous argument that Hrothgar are Mithra?

You know how people insist the Miqo'te are a replacement for the FF11 Mithra?
You know how even the game acknowledges a theory the Miqo'te come from a race called Mithra?

...yeah well the bleeding Hrothgar lionfolk come from the FF10 Ronso.

None of those look remotely close to the Mithra. Now, please.

LEAVE US ALONE.

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You need to take step away and reflect on life if you get this heated over opinions on a forum. Or as they say nowadays. Touch grass. I can state my opinion/requests all i want, as long as I want and there is nothing you or the other weirdos can do about it. You dont own the forum,the thread,anything. You are just a person posting here so stop acting like you are a boss of things because you aren’t.

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You need to take step away and reflect on life if you get this heated over opinions on a forum. Or as they say nowadays. Touch grass. I can state my opinion/requests all i want, as long as I want and there is nothing you or the other weirdos can do about it. You dont own the forum,the thread,anything. You are just a person posting here so stop acting like you are a boss of things because you aren’t.

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But he was right, what you are asking has nothing to do with the Hrothgar race, the Hrothgar are nothing like Mithras, it’s just not the same race and you are asking for it in the wrong thread, it’s a completely different topic and while nobody owns anything, it is a forum rule to stay on the topic of the threads and in this case Mithra =/= Hrothgar.

You could open another thread to discuss Mithra and the possibility of having them in game, nobody will stop you but this IS the wrong thread for it.

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You need to take step away and reflect on life if you get this heated over opinions on a forum. Or as they say nowadays. Touch grass. I can state my opinion/requests all i want, as long as I want and there is nothing you or the other weirdos can do about it. You dont own the forum,the thread,anything. You are just a person posting here so stop acting like you are a boss of things because you aren’t.

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You're right, you're free to ask for all sorts of silly requests that go against both the design of the race and what the target audience actually wants, and also adds redundancy to the playable races since miqo'te already exist. Feel free to do it all you want, but don't come in here and shocked Pikachu face when people tell you your request is silly. What you said applies to yourself as well, you don't own the forum and people can disagree all they want,and if this upsets you so much you need to take a step away and reflect on life.

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Insanity at its finest

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Funny how you ignore a whole thread telling you to stop, you only go for me. Curious. I don't think I'm the Manager, but you sure as heck seem to think so.

Congratulations on having more "Tier 2 Karen" vibes on this thread than this picture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPQW7y7XMAAYDjR.png

Thanks for letting me live rent free in your head, I guess. Sorry to everyone else, they're not as fashionable and glam as I am. Though I wouldn't fret, better me than you.

Now if you don't mind my dear, this whole thread has better things think about than you, and I definitely have better crap to care about. You're going on the ignore box, okay? Okay~ <3

Ciao, love and all that. Don't let the big lion men scare you on the way out.

BACK ON TOPIC I memba seeing some ppl want the "moenbryda" hair on hrothgar and so I looked in the cc menu and that hair is shockingly not a femroe racial hair.
Its available on all female races except miqo and aura. I dont need to say viera bc we know, we all know, what is and is not available on viera or hrothgar.
Now all the races that can use that hair have ears on the sides of their head, not the top. While certain adjustments to universal hairs have been made, this hairstyle specially is...idk "combed" in such a way to show the side of the humanoid face. Obviously miqo dont get this hair bc the Uncanny Valley of a 99% human face with no ears is too much, same reason they dont get a Bald option and why the "Gladiolus" uni style has additional hair instead of having buzzed sides.
So I hate to say that while they could work it for hrothgar ladies (a mostly cat face doesnt trigger UV vibes because why would it, no cat has sideears) we also have the added caveat of being dependent on viera additions.
They could always put in extra work, make hrothgar and viera have equal uni styles before 7.0 drops, but since they didnt and hrothgar are TWO PATCHES BEHIND after the earpocalypse of 6.1, that just wont happen.

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Aw man, that sucks. That hair would look awesome on fem Hrothgar too. I'm hoping they give them an exclusive hairstyle that at least looks similar to it.

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BACK ON TOPIC I memba seeing some ppl want the "moenbryda" hair on hrothgar and so I looked in the cc menu and that hair is shockingly not a femroe racial hair.
Its available on all female races except miqo and aura. I dont need to say viera bc we know, we all know, what is and is not available on viera or hrothgar.
Now all the races that can use that hair have ears on the sides of their head, not the top. While certain adjustments to universal hairs have been made, this hairstyle specially is...idk "combed" in such a way to show the side of the humanoid face. Obviously miqo dont get this hair bc the Uncanny Valley of a 99% human face with no ears is too much, same reason they dont get a Bald option and why the "Gladiolus" uni style has additional hair instead of having buzzed sides.
So I hate to say that while they could work it for hrothgar ladies (a mostly cat face doesnt trigger UV vibes because why would it, no cat has sideears) we also have the added caveat of being dependent on viera additions.
They could always put in extra work, make hrothgar and viera have equal uni styles before 7.0 drops, but since they didnt and hrothgar are TWO PATCHES BEHIND after the earpocalypse of 6.1, that just wont happen.

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...We're going to end up being reliant on modding again, won't we? :s

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...We're going to end up being reliant on modding again, won't we? :s

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my good fellow in christ some of us play on ps4/5 :/
But Im certain moengar will be among the first FORBIDDEN MAGICKS available to ladies, it is arguably the best female-locked hair in the game.
But it is endlessly hilarious to me the big money making most popular female races in the game cant use it. You would think they would like...let hair lay flat on the sides of the head or smth for miqote but no.

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my good fellow in christ some of us play on ps4/5 :/
But Im certain moengar will be among the first FORBIDDEN MAGICKS available to ladies, it is arguably the best female-locked hair in the game.
But it is endlessly hilarious to me the big money making most popular female races in the game cant use it. You would think they would like...let hair lay flat on the sides of the head or smth for miqote but no.

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I know it's not possible for PS players. That's part of the issue xD:

• On one hand, yes, it's like "Oh we'll be reliant on modding again", which means PC players will be further encouraged to break/continue breaking the ToS, and PlayStation players will still keep getting diddly squat. Which is daft, SE should be the one doing this, not amateurs doing stuff for the half of the playerbase that does this
• On the other hand, often we only know "stuff works" through modding. Several hairstyles have been proven to be able to work on Hrothgar, unlike certain other options that makes them look like an absolute onion, through mods. It's also how we showed Square Enix that ears can absolutely be added to our hairstyles.

Mods are an unfortunate reality of the game because PS players can't use them, and the sheer use of them is not something SE accepts, but that's neither here nor there, because what I meant by that was how yes: people who can have access to this will only be further encouraged to pursue it if Square doesn't get a move on.
And Square should get a move on bc not everyone can just throw their arms in the air and say "fug it, I'll mod". It's just overall irresponsible of them not to. It's irresponsible to leave Hrothgars behind so much on account of a technicality.

As for Miqo'te, I really don't know. They're one of the game's largest money makers for sure, really big draw-ins, especially for newer players. But at the same time, they're clearly not the favourite child, since even their racial features are getting thrown into the void nowadays. Something we warned them about, but they didn't seem to care. Oh well.
So it really doesn't surprise me that even they don't have access to everything.

Question is... will Femgars.

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As for Miqo'te, I really don't know. They're one of the game's largest money makers for sure, really big draw-ins, especially for newer players. But at the same time, they're clearly not the favourite child, since even their racial features are getting thrown into the void nowadays. Something we warned them about, but they didn't seem to care. Oh well.
So it really doesn't surprise me that even they don't have access to everything.

Question is... will Femgars.

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depends on how much effort in 7.0 launch goes into getting hrothgar up to snuff.
At the very least femgar will have Lightning, Styled for Hire and Rainmaker on launch, all top tier hair options.
Idk what universal styles fviera use, I just check mviera bc theyre what mgar will get.
Oh femgar will also have great lengths, which I will be using til 6.5 released Styled for hrothgar. I just wish we could wear hats already I love GL length and the long bangs but the scalp of the hair is kinda boring.

M*ds are neither here or there. Cause not everyone can or wants to use them + they are against the TOS. But I fully agree that Hrothgar as a whole should still receive more hairstyles and hats with future patches and the new expansion. There is a new one coming with the deep dungeon that I think would look amazing on male Hrothgar. So fingers crossed it would be available to them.
For the Moenbrida hairstyle, I think it would be a very good hairstyle for female Hrothgar, I already like how it looks on Roegadin and Elezen. Even if they won't add it due to an excess of "empty space" due to the ear placement, might make it look a bit weird or uncanny. Though I would love to see a half-shave hairstyle for female Hrothgar as an option.

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depends on how much effort in 7.0 launch goes into getting hrothgar up to snuff.
At the very least femgar will have Lightning, Styled for Hire and Rainmaker on launch, all top tier hair options.
Idk what universal styles fviera use, I just check mviera bc theyre what mgar will get.
Oh femgar will also have great lengths, which I will be using til 6.5 released Styled for hrothgar. I just wish we could wear hats already I love GL length and the long bangs but the scalp of the hair is kinda boring.

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Female Hrothgar will also have access to the Alphinaud hairstyle and Early to Rise which are both amazing options alongside the ones you listed! :3

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Female Hrothgar will also have access to the Alphinaud hairstyle and Early to Rise which are both amazing options alongside the ones you listed! :3

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After this post by Konala in the Viera threads, I'm really curious to see how that hairstyle will look on Female Hrothgar.

I'm so used to the same hair from Creation I never realized moen wasn't on Au Ra..,[regardless of ears or Horns.., they set to clip.., and some thin side hair like twin-tails etc, would clip enough to show. so it's odd it isn't available for au ra, due to general at ear slop, but I'm getting off topic.]

Hopefully they'll get things done right at the start. We'll definitely be able to know how much to expect if they give us any information soon about what their Graphics update does.

Looking forward to the Benchmark if it'll hold all that 7.0 should hold.[Don't expect people to make put things into benchmark, but would be interesting to see if the hairs work, even if it's only months before ExpacDay..,]

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You need to take step away and reflect on life if you get this heated over opinions on a forum. Or as they say nowadays. Touch grass. I can state my opinion/requests all i want, as long as I want and there is nothing you or the other weirdos can do about it. You dont own the forum,the thread,anything. You are just a person posting here so stop acting like you are a boss of things because you aren’t.

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...44/770/e9d.jpg

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As for Miqo'te, I really don't know. They're one of the game's largest money makers for sure, really big draw-ins, especially for newer players. But at the same time, they're clearly not the favourite child, since even their racial features are getting thrown into the void nowadays. Something we warned them about, but they didn't seem to care. Oh well.
So it really doesn't surprise me that even they don't have access to everything.

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Miqo'te ears float a little over their head, with the gap hidden by their hair. It might not work out too well with Moenbryda's hair leaving one side of the scalp visible and exposing the gap.

Plus leaving that much of the side of the head with no ear visible is a bit of an uncanny valley trigger. Yeah, we know the cat ears are up there, but......

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...it is arguably the best female-locked hair in the game.
But it is endlessly hilarious to me the big money making most popular female races in the game cant use it. You would think they would like...let hair lay flat on the sides of the head or smth for miqote but no.

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I don't think it's that shiningly wonderful to be worth adapting for the races it doesn't naturally suit, and it's from the "semi-race-specific" segment of the hairstyle list where things were being shared between some races but not everyone.

Also, from memory, I think there'd be at least as much issue with the "flopped mohawk" side clipping through cat ears/horns as there is with the other side being exposed. Certainly for Au Ra, who don't need adaptations for the similarly short Stormblood monk style.

I am a visual person. My first opinion was that Moenbrida's hairstyle would not look well because of the amount of empty space, kind of how it would look for Miquo'te.
But I got curious and tried drawing it. The face is inspired by a mountain lion, I thought that would be fit. And I love the result!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpdVGJtX...png&name=small

Last drawing I added a small backstory to my fan art and I thought it was fun, so I'll do it again! ^^

She was the owner of a popular tavern on the outskirts of the main city of Bozja (before the Garlean occupation). It was a relatively small business, the main patrons were the soldiers who were finishing their shifts and wanted a quiet place to have a drink and relax. But occasionally she would receive an adventurer or 2. The Lady of the tavern was also the main cook and bartender, she also had about 4 or 5 employees. She had a great imagination, often her favourite occupation was listening and writing down the stories of the soldiers and adventurers, dreaming of going on her own adventures someday, exploring the wide world and meeting new friends with new stories. But alas she could never due to her duties and responsibilities for her tavern. That dream never left for her dough and with the help of her employees and a good adventurer friend, they were about to set on a small vacation adventure in Doma. The plan was for a short visit, no more than 2 weeks. And she waited with bated breath for the day of departure to arrive. A day that would sadly never come. The first Garlean attack was aimed at the zone in which the small tavern was located, 25 deaths were the result of the attack. The Lady being one of them. She never had the chance to see the world.

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I can state my opinion/requests all i want, as long as I want and there is nothing you or the other weirdos can do about it. You dont own the forum,the thread,anything. You are just a person posting here so stop acting like you are a boss of things because you aren’t.

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You are free to state your opinion and everyone else is free to state an opposing opinion. Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone a "weirdo."

The more I stare at the Bozjan mural of the Queen and her maidens. The more I kind of fell in love with this body type for female Hrothgar. It is something we do not have in the game (Especially not with the tall races). I just like their pear shape with the wide hips and smaller shoulders. While I am waiting to see if the design philosophy remained the same from the mural to their 3D models. I am hoping that they kept the pear silhouette. I hate the head and the lack of a tail in the mural, even for the queen, she is mostly shown without it even when she is sitting (all characters with tails tend to have their tail placed next to them rather than underneath them when sitting). This makes me think, that the mural was used to show the shape of the body in comparison to a female Roe (since that would be the closest thing to their depiction), slightly shorter and with a pear-shaped body. The head 100% needs to be bestial, if you are making a beast race in which the males are beast men, then it is only fair that you give the same option to the females.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep2sQuFUcAAF_jU.jpg

Mrs Incredible, nuff said

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Yeah that's what a fantasy game needs, over-exaggerated 'female' traits. No one's been brave enough to do that before. :rolleyes:

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Definitely not in this game where everyone has literally no buttcheeks unless they use the 2B panties /shrug

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Mrs Incredible, nuff said

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Yeah that's what a fantasy game needs, over-exaggerated 'female' traits. No one's been brave enough to do that before. :rolleyes:

People really asking for mithra in this thread? haaaaaaahahahaha