Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

I felt the need to bring this post back up. This was made by @Roda and perfectly shows why a Mithra would look bad as a counterpart to Hrothgar, while a female Hrothgar that looks more like an appropriate counterpart to the males fits better. And I just love this post too much to have it buried in the thread. <3

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This is why it's important to have stuff match their opposite. Races shouldn't look similar to one another, otherwise what's the point? Just make a Hyur, grab ear glamours and be done with it.

Stuff should match their opposite. Even Au Ra who have a high level of dimorphism match their counterpart. Why wouldn't Hrothgar women look large and have a proper animalistic set of traits?

Sorry but... you want Mithra? Go play Miqo'te. Oh wait, she is a Miqo'te, isn't she? Hmm... perhaps she's suffered a mild case of amnesia? Or perhaps Mirror Image Agnosia? Whichever the case, the love for Mithra has been noted, but this is hardly the thread for it. Though I'm sure they know this. I wonder, why can't these people just leave others well enough alone? We already have enough trouble as it is. You don't see Hrothgar going into Miqo'te threads and post garbage.

Had she said "Galka", I'd be way more receptive.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

This is why it's important to have stuff match their opposite. Races shouldn't look similar to one another, otherwise what's the point? Just make a Hyur, grab ear glamours and be done with it.

Stuff should match their opposite. Even Au Ra who have a high level of dimorphism match their counterpart. Why wouldn't Hrothgar women look large and have a proper animalistic set of traits?

Sorry but... you want Mithra? Go play Miqo'te. Oh wait, she is a Miqo'te, isn't she? Hmm... perhaps she's suffered a mild case of amnesia? Or perhaps Mirror Image Agnosia? Whichever the case, the love for Mithra has been noted, but this is hardly the thread for it. Though I'm sure they know this. I wonder, why can't these people just leave others well enough alone? We already have enough trouble as it is. You don't see Hrothgar going into Miqo'te threads and post garbage.

Had she said "Galka", I'd be way more receptive.

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Galka were great and I am kind of sad that they took away the tails when recreating them for FFXIV, they were also male only because God forbid we have buff women, no, it's much better to make them reincarnate from thin air and come back! (my sarcasm is showing). Female Roegadin were a great addition, just wish they had the option to be much bigger like the males!

As for the Mithra, I will repeat myself, but we already have Miquo'te who are quite literally Mithra but redesigned for XIV. They do NOT match Hrothgar in the slightest and would make that annoying and tired meme of a big beastly man and not-so-beastly woman.
Just make Female Hrothgar to be a good counterpart to Male Hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

Galka were great and I am kind of sad that they took away the tails when recreating them for FFXIV, they were also male only because God forbid we have buff women, no, it's much better to make them reincarnate from thin air and come back! (my sarcasm is showing). Female Roegadin were a great addition, just wish they had the option to be much bigger like the males!

As for the Mithra, I will repeat myself, but we already have Miquo'te who are quite literally Mithra but redesigned for XIV. They do NOT match Hrothgar in the slightest and would make that annoying and tired meme of a big beastly man and not-so-beastly woman.
Just make Female Hrothgar to be a good counterpart to Male Hrothgar.

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I actually preferred galka being all male.
Holy crap a fantasy race in a fantasy world that doesnt rely on hetero human intercourse to exist, theres an idea.
And they ruined galka by making them a heterogendered race with...nothing going. Theyre humans but bigger in 14 like I hope nobody bust a blood vessel straining their creativity.
Since they chickened out and ruined hrothgar and viera by saying "more hetero races instead of anything new or unique" they do at least need to make them look similar.
But I think anyone asking for big buff women when its clear theyre just gonna dump a snout on a female roe model and call it a day (and femroe are frankly just femhighlander but taller) is gonna be grossly disappointed when the 7.0 build tester drops sometime around ig March next year.
And considering they couldnt be bothered to show femgar when they were announced the same time male miqote TWO were, and we havent gotten 1 npc anywhere, I would not be surprised if they waited that long for players to see them.

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Originally Posted by XianRo

(and femroe are frankly just femhighlander but taller)

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I've been both and that is not true at all.

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Originally Posted by XianRo

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I do think that making a female Roe was the best thing they could have done. It is unfair to show a very buff and big race but not allow people to play it as female. It is a bad look when the big and buff race is male only, females can be big and buff as well. And when it comes to the lore, they could have just kept it, Galka just reincarnate themselves after death, both genders can. They can live together, but more often than not female Galka and male Galka choose to be separate because of X or y reasons. We keep the reincarnation as the main motive of a steady population and allow female Galka to exist. You could even add that they live in different places and have different customs, like the Sea Wolf being the males and Hellsguard being the females (and add both ranges of skin colour for all). There, problem solved.
I have been both fem Highlander and fem Roe and I can 100% say that the models differ in their physique. Highlanders are curvier with a more built/athletic shape, while female Roe has a muscular and almost androgynous body (minus the massive chest).
In other words, I would never support the genderlock of any race, unless the race looks so androgynous you literally cannot tell the difference.

The female Hrothgar should take inspiration from the Ronso in the same way the males did. Then the devs should look at the males and design a good counterpart for the males. They don't need to be more buff or bigger. For me as long as they look like they are part of the same species is more than enough.

And I have my fears that they would delay female Hrothgar after 7.0 (maybe even 8.0) because of the lack of noise. And as you said because they are so quick to not show anything regarding them, not an NPC, not a concept art, no nothing. It is safe to say that I don't have any hopes of them coming in 7.0, there was no promise of them adding females then. The devs wording was ambiguous, it could be interpreted as not coming in this expansion, to it will come in a few expansions when we will be unable to ignore the demand for them anymore.

Honestly, I just want to see them, I want to play one in 7.0 and retake her through Shadowbringers, Endwalker and (insert 7.0 expansion name here).

I might be reading too much into things, but has anyone seen the new animated ad for 14? If my memory serves right, Hrothgar had very little representation in the past ones, usually having one or maybe 2 somewhere in the background. But in this one, they have a few that make a pretty visible appearance: 1 Astro in the raid, 2 in the Ul'Dah at the beginning, the one in the end screen watching fireworks and the prominent one being the crafter who is front and centre (yes, I am aware of the meme). Do you guys think this might be a subtle way to attract new players to the Hrothgar race by showing them in almost every playstyle in the game?:)
- Astro in the raid (Raider)
- One in the starting gear in Ul'Dah (new player)
- One having a nice glam in Ul'Dah (Rp, maybe?)
- The crafter (Crafting)
- And the one watching the fireworks (MSQ/Sidequest enjoyer)

I mean they might want to garner interest for when the females are revealed. Yes, I could be reading too much into it, but I like to place together hints and story bits to theorise on. And the timing seems too good to just be a coincidence.

The video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf3cCkM9M84

And the meme (without the text, those who are curious can search for themselves):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdiExddW...g&name=360x360

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdiExddW...g&name=360x360

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...08/sasscat.png

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

Galka [...] were also male only because God forbid we have buff women

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My understanding is that they split Mithra/Galka because the system could only support four choices of race, so they squashed the two races into one slot.

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdiExddW...g&name=360x360

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I mean come on, it even has the same glamour, it can't not be a reference lol

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Originally Posted by Allegor

I mean come on, it even has the same glamour, it can't not be a reference lol

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Hrothgar make anime.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

This is why it's important to have stuff match their opposite. Races shouldn't look similar to one another, otherwise what's the point? Just make a Hyur, grab ear glamours and be done with it.

Stuff should match their opposite. Even Au Ra who have a high level of dimorphism match their counterpart. Why wouldn't Hrothgar women look large and have a proper animalistic set of traits?

Sorry but... you want Mithra? Go play Miqo'te. Oh wait, she is a Miqo'te, isn't she? Hmm... perhaps she's suffered a mild case of amnesia? Or perhaps Mirror Image Agnosia? Whichever the case, the love for Mithra has been noted, but this is hardly the thread for it. Though I'm sure they know this. I wonder, why can't these people just leave others well enough alone? We already have enough trouble as it is. You don't see Hrothgar going into Miqo'te threads and post garbage.

Had she said "Galka", I'd be way more receptive.

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I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.

They should have a big butt and NOT broad shoulders. Those two things would already make fem hroth one of a kind.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

They should have a big butt and NOT broad shoulders. Those two things would already make fem hroth one of a kind.

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How big, enough to Rival an Armored Garlean Prince, I take it..,?
(they have us beat on that..,)

Bro shut the f**k up. The whole point of Hroths is to be a beast-like race. It's meant to appeal to a different demographic that other races don't, popularity be damned. Making fem-Hroths like Mithras defeats the entire point of Hrothgar as a playable race. NO ONE who actually plays Hroth wants fem-Hroths just to be Miqo'te, but slightly different. It would be such a f**king waste if they did that.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.

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No.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...7/buy_game.png

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.

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No, you're right. I don't own this thread.

Just the sheer amount of people asking for stuff like kkron's art and calling you out sure do.

Here's a protip. You love Mithra so much? Go play FF11 ^^

<3

Literally nobody in their right mind wants another Miqo'te. Sorry honey, but your "opinion" is hot garbage.

I vote for a more bestial look...

More targets to use the flamethower "emote" on. :)

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.

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What you want is not a Hrothgar, plain and simple. No one here want a more hairy Miqo'te. We want something that looks like it belongs to the same race as the Hrothgar we already have.

They don't have to appeal to people that wouldn't play Hrothgar in the first place.

If she wanted a leaner version of Hrothgar, I'd understand... but no, she keeps insisting she wants them to look like the Mithra from FF11. Her own words. And we already have that. She's literally playing one.

One thing is having an opinion that's different than others. Such as, say, people who want them to be taller or shorter than Male Hrothgar.

Another thing entirely is playing exactly what you want, asking for a completely unrelated race to basically be a clone of the race you're playing, and then calling that an opinion and being constructive.

Mithra look like cat girls don't get it. Female Hroths need to be different.

C'mon, don't you guys know ANYTHING about designing a fantasy race?

Here, let me get out the chart.

https://i.imgur.com/FCCjZP1.jpeg

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

C'mon, don't you guys know ANYTHING about designing a fantasy race?

Here, let me get out the chart.

https://i.imgur.com/FCCjZP1.jpeg

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I'll take the dwarves any day

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

I'll take the dwarves any day

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Well, Viera have certainly followed the "elf" design instructions, so here's hoping.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

C'mon, don't you guys know ANYTHING about designing a fantasy race?

Here, let me get out the chart.

https://i.imgur.com/FCCjZP1.jpeg

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Dwarf lady is hot

https://i.redd.it/3b14q1giim941.jpg

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Originally Posted by Allegor

https://i.redd.it/3b14q1giim941.jpg

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This makes me irrationally angry.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

C'mon, don't you guys know ANYTHING about designing a fantasy race?

Here, let me get out the chart.

https://i.imgur.com/FCCjZP1.jpeg

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Reminds me of that one Baalbudy comic turned video..,

Definitely only inviting Dwarves only to my party now.[ironically, being designed to be their own race, like how we want Roths to be. makes them more appealing. and that one "Mithra" enthusiast reminds me of the elf trying to make me have a party full of elves.]


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looking at Allegors shared img..,
JFC, reminds me how the balance isn't right on effort and design from many creators.<easier to not design too custom-unique when you put them all in the same cookie cutter/Leafman Face.>
[but that's another topic that doesn't deny the need for openness nonetheless..,] makes one sad, let alone the fact that they can't be unique or detailed. alas it's a trope that will slowly be chipped into something new.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.

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It is not even about liking, even FFXIV mentions about mithra with the wind up.
Literally this:
"A stack of dusty tomes and a healthy imagination served as inspiration for this automaton designed to depict the Mithra─supposed ancestor of the Miqo'te. She wears a traditional scorpion harness rendered in painstaking—and pointless—detail by her Sharlayan creator."

What you are asking is not even a Fem Hrothgar, might just make a thread or search similar topic and ask for that instead

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Originally Posted by Jettinson

What you are asking is not even a Fem Hrothgar, might just make a thread or search similar topic and ask for that instead

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Except... we all know what will happen if she does end up making a thread on playable Mithra. She'll be told to play a Miqo'te, and people who notice it will even point out she's already playing Miqo'te, and thus wouldn't be on board with it.

What she's doing is the equivalent of going into an Au Ra appreciation thread, wonder why no one there is a Bangaa, and then getting upset because people told her to stop insisting on having Bangaa-like models for the Au Ra.

Also... Quick thing, but I googled if there was any post people ever made on "playable Mithra in FF14". There wasn't any that I noticed, but I did come across a 2011 post by a user called IStolzI that said...

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I would hope the devs know that introducing a cool new race to XIV, but it not being playable, would kinda be a slap in the face lol... I mean they could have easily done it with Male Mithra in XI, but they didn't. Therefore I find it hard to believe they would here.

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Post in question is here, can't quote it bc it's locked.

But um.

Awkward now that we've gotten to female Hrothgar and male Viera xD

It's amazing how much angst a single post can create.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

They should have a big butt and NOT broad shoulders. Those two things would already make fem hroth one of a kind.

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Like a pear shape body? I would really like that, not sure how it would work with armour wrapping on the model, but I'm all up for that.

https://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb...-Version-5.jpg

Also, I think it would be the funniest thing if the only race that would have a butt slider was Hrothgar XD

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Originally Posted by ZeroInfinity

Bro shut the f**k up. The whole point of Hroths is to be a beast-like race. It's meant to appeal to a different demographic that other races don't, popularity be damned. Making fem-Hroths like Mithras defeats the entire point of Hrothgar as a playable race. NO ONE who actually plays Hroth wants fem-Hroths just to be Miqo'te, but slightly different. It would be such a f**king waste if they did that.

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100% this! Also, it is better if you just ignore that guy, it is very clear that they are here to make people angry. Nothing better on TV I guess. And thank you for the support!

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

It's amazing how much angst a single post can create.

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Ok so I can go into the Viera thread right now and tell everyone they shouldn't be humanoids and should just be Loporrits instead? You can guarantee me that there would be zero reaction to such a post?

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Originally Posted by Allegor

https://i.redd.it/3b14q1giim941.jpg

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What is this from and is it making fun of this fact or just unironically showing this?

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

What is this from and is it making fun of this fact or just unironically showing this?

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It's an anime called "Seton Academy: Join the Pack".

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

What is this from and is it making fun of this fact or just unironically showing this?

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It's showing the exact thing we all don't want with Hrothgar. Nobody wants that nonsense, at all. What we want is more akin to Charr and Khajiit in terms of males to female looks.

https://d3b4yo2b5lbfy.cloudfront.net...2/charr-01.jpg

Charr, for those who don't know GW2. You can easily tell they're the same race, and you can tell male from female with a glance.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I can state my opinion and what id like all I want.

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This is true and Correct.
I also have an Opinion.....making FemHroths into Mithra, is the dumbest thing they can do, and it goes against the entire point and Philosophy of the Hrothgar's Design, and Beast Races in General.
You are also technically already playing a Mithra.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.

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Wh.... we already HAVE mithras. They're miqo'te. The original 5 races are the EXACT SAME as what they are in XI, the only actual difference is that roes don't have tails like the galkas do but if you slapped some tails on them there would be no actual difference. What are you even going on about?? Like, not even trolling, we literally have the XI races already playable here, so please, enlighten me on how miqo and mithra aren't the same.

Obvious troll is obvious, but at least it keeps the thread up o/

Id not say no to buttsliders, she’d walk around with two pillows attached to her back.