Gender locked race?

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Originally Posted by Hunky

They used lore as an excuse to not include playable male Viera, but the real reason is because they didn't want to, and they shaped the lore in a way to explain that. Female Hrothgar (a.k.a Ronso) exist, so why would they make Hrothgar male only?

Hopefully fans will be able to convince them to eventually create playable male Viera and playable female Hrothgar. There's no need to genderlock them.

https://i.imgur.com/oGJFJDy.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/HGNS3bq.png

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Indeed, that's the only thing left at this point with regards to the new races...

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Originally Posted by myahele

I thought Hrothgar would have more human facial features if the leak were true, so I was really surprise that they went with what they did.

I don't hate it, but I am on the fence. I like their body proportions, but I am curious about how emotive their faces will be. They don't seem too have too much facial movements in the preview, so hopefully they're working on that.

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The Vieras and Hrothgar are, I hope, not finished yet. Cause both look quite limited with facial expressions..

Really disappointed in this decision. Would rather have preferred one race with two gender options than two races with one gender each. I sincerely hope 6.0 (or earlier) fixes this.

Genderlocking races is really unfortunate. I was so looking forward to male viera. Female Hrothgar should be added as well.

... do you think the hrothgar ever like... kiss each other?

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Originally Posted by Thefates

He didn't say they were. He's saying that other people wanted that and he knows it's developer preference stopping it.

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I think their way of handling it is utterly silly, but in the end, they design the game, and then bring it to market. As a work of art, the producers of it will have their preferences on what they put in it and how to present it. They are perfectly entitled to do that, and of course people are perfectly free to reject the product. I don't quite see there being huge demand for Hrothgar in the way they've been added, and monitoring the active figures a few months in will probably be highly revealing.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

... do you think the hrothgar ever like... kiss each other?

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/sweat

Stop it, you're making me blush.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

... do you think the hrothgar ever like... kiss each other?

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Their current design leads me not to even care. :p

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

I'm back. I prepared this in advance, and posting it as they are clapping for these ridiculous cat race. Let me first say this: I hate Hrothgar because they came at the cost of male Viera and I'm not going to forget this ever.

Well it seems that they’ve gender-locked Viera and Hrothgar after all.
How disgusting, sexist, and homophobic - still uncomfortable designing male bunnies huh? You know I’ve really come to see this all as an attack on my identity especially after several of my posts in this thread were reported and I was banned because apparently someone is upset that I was very vocal about why I want male Viera and the fanart I was posting? I’m not sorry about what I said back then and this attempt at silencing me failed.
You know what would have been nice? Not being so secretive and being up front with us from the start, but no, they just had to cash in on everyone’s preorders before throwing this in our faces. This is why you cannot trust preorders these days at all. Thank god I had the foresight to not buy Shadowbringers. I can’t imagine that they would have refunded me. After all that I’ve seen I’ve come to the conclusion that this was a predatory tactic that took advantage of people’s trust, and they will go out of their way to silence anyone who speaks out against them. They are being anti-consumer and anti-player with the way they are behaving.
So in the end, they lost the money I was about to spend on the expansion, my recurring subscription which I have canceled, and any other Mog Station related purchases I would have made for fantasias/outfits/mounts. I refuse to be taken advantage of and I refuse to blindly follow this game into the abyss it’s going to sink into at this rate.
Good riddance and goodbye.

I see that this game has shifted sides and is now against who I am and what I stand for so in response I see no other option but to abandon FFXIV. Since they’re using the lore to justify this, then so will I. If the lore states that male Viera aren’t playable, then I guess that means my character will just have to disappear.
Goodbye.

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Gender-locking is a mistake, period. Their decision to take the path they have is a mistake. But just because they didn't pander to your SJW needs, doesn't mean it's an attack, or form of bigotry. Stop creating a false-narrative to feed your personal agenda. It's toxic and hypocritical.

its just horrible decision , its like making limited jobs / and what about that lore , its just joke lol . im so mad now / even rhothgar looks awesome ...

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Originally Posted by Lacan

... do you think the hrothgar ever like... kiss each other?

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All the time.

So...female Hrothgar when?

Extremely disappointed and angry :( this is my least favorite fanfest of all time.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/.../10b-ronso.jpg

Can you imagine a Hrothgar dancer..?

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I'll maintain an open mind but I'm going to be on the look out for other MMOs, tbh.

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GW2 has cute forest men and beastly cat women if you're interested (even more beastly than xiv's).
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/t...ged_render.jpg
https://d3b4yo2b5lbfy.cloudfront.net...2/charr-01.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lacan

... do you think the hrothgar ever like... kiss each other?

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I'll be sure to find out.

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Originally Posted by Roda

GW2 has cute forest men and beastly cat women if you're interested (even more beastly than xiv's).
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/t...ged_render.jpg
https://d3b4yo2b5lbfy.cloudfront.net...2/charr-01.jpg

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I've played it and I'll pass. My preferences don't lie in either of those directions and its gameplay is not to my tastes. There's more than just the gender-lock which is making me question the design direction of the expansion.

Quite frankly, I now want to see more customisation options for the existing races and hopefully the decision to undo this silly gender-lock. Absent the foregoing, and a graphics touch up in 6.0, I will consider myself to be a very non-committal subscriber.

No male Viera because of "lore", but FFX lore has female Ronso.

Hello darkness my old friend

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Originally Posted by Zied

No male Viera because of "lore", but FFX lore has female Ronso.

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That's FF10, we're playing 14. We know literally nothing about the race other than what it looks like.

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Originally Posted by jake200135

Male Viera needs to be added. The Hrothgar are just as dumb looking as I expected them to be. They literally just slapped some fur and a lion head on a Roegadyn body and called it Hrothgar. It's one of the laziest characters designs I've seen in this game yet. Male Viera would have actually added something interesting and different to the game. :/

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Also, can we just point out that we don't need more cats? We have Miqo'te, and people are happy with them (I have 2). Lupin would have been a much cooler new race.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/..._and_Ayde2.jpg

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d093c382...pzioo2_540.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lacan

... do you think the hrothgar ever like... kiss each other?

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Yes! With their tongues of course, like cats and other felines ~

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Originally Posted by BiddyBatnana

Yeah they could have added a stance that makes you DPS or HEAL. A new type of job. Idk.

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They're not particularly experimental with job designs. I mean they won't even allow tanks to really do that - they just have higher damage modes for when they're OT.

https://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-...barbrawl19.jpg

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

That's FF10, we're playing 14. We know literally nothing about the race other than what it looks like.

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

That's FF10, we're playing 14. We know literally nothing about the race other than what it looks like.

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Unfortunately, we do know that they're called Ronso in the first shard. There's no real excuse for them being male only when we know that "Ronso" have females.

Super disappointed with the genderlock on the races. Hoping that Square will remedy this by patching in the male and female genders respectively in the 5.x series.

I can't stop laughing

no male viera because of lore
the same lore that says beast races aren't allowed in the city states

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...ly_X_Ronso.jpg

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

That's FF10, we're playing 14. We know literally nothing about the race other than what it looks like.

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they did openly confirmed hrothgar are equal to ronso though and even made Khimari
like lalafell and dwarves

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Originally Posted by Thefates

Unfortunately, we do know that they're called Ronso in the first shard. There's no real excuse for them being male only when we know that "Ronso" have females.

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FF10 Ronso have females, yes. But I repeat, this is FF14, and we know absolutely nothing about our "Ronso".

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I think their way of handling it is utterly silly, but in the end, they design the game, and then bring it to market. As a work of art, the producers of it will have their preferences on what they put in it and how to present it. They are perfectly entitled to do that, and of course people are perfectly free to reject the product. I don't quite see there being huge demand for Hrothgar in the way they've been added, and monitoring the active figures a few months in will probably be highly revealing.

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This is not how designing an AAA game usually works. Choices like this are not driven by artists, but by suits.

But either way, no matter how you justify the decision, the way they handled revealing the information was definitely poor.

The backlash is going to be real. Now that we have confirmation on the gender locks, and it's not longer speculation, there are going to be rage posts everywhere. This entire Keynote has resulted in a disappointed Zugz. A silver lining is that I'm not longer on the edge of my seat stressing for Shadowbringers. Now, I'm more than happy with just waiting until it gets here. Unless there is some super secret, amazeballs-level reveal (Geomancer) between now and Sunday, this expansion is BFA 2.0 as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

FF10 Ronso have females, yes. But I repeat, this is FF14, and we know absolutely nothing about our "Ronso".

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Could be that, not like it's ever stopped them from genderlocking a race because of stupid reasons either - like how female highlanders are supposed to stay at home.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

they did openly confirmed hrothgar are equal to ronso though and even made Khimari
like lalafell and dwarves

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Please link me a timestamp where they say "Hrothgar are literally an exact copy of the Ronso from Final Fantasy X". From what I saw, they share nothing except the name, and that is only in another dimension.

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Originally Posted by username1234

no male viera because of lore
the same lore that says beast races aren't allowed in the city states

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Beast Tribes. Presumably Hrothgar aren't considered as such.