SE is always SE... Rage inside... :/

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I find it oddly funny that NA players care more about the game than JP.........

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If by care you mean "want to play it so badly", yes. JP however, if you even look at the lodestone front page, are the more active XIV patrons..the grand majority of blogs you see are Japanese lol.

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Originally Posted by Dimitsuri

I totally agree with you on that man. I know couple guys who barely loged in 1-3 times a mounth and got an invite today...ppl who struggled since CE edition pre-release and all the time till the servers went down, dont deserve a shit...

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Why would you play a game you don't enjoy? You don't deserve more for putting up with stuff nobody forced you to go through with, in the first place. Get off your high horse.

It's random and we have to deal with it. Calm the hell down.

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Originally Posted by EnkiOro

Why would you play a game you don't enjoy?

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Oh man....

This is common in NA MMORPG communities lol. People moan and complain about WoW degrading and losing it's luster yet they go right back to it every update/expansion.

The testing phase will end very quickly. This has been confirmed. Alpha will be over before the end of the year. I'm sure people will get over it.

But instead of making fun, maybe the JP should feel moved. After all, we're all in it for the same goal. People making fun of those disappointed have no reason to feel superior any more than people who are raging over not getting in have reason to be angry.

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Originally Posted by XyonicS

I would love to actually see what the reactions are on the Japanese forums is to all this, or were they more carefull in making their selections there?

Would be very interesting.

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They can have a laugh all they like they weren't the ones that had to put up with garbage lag ridden servers. Let's just hope the right people are getting in and that the tests go well because I really don't want server repeats like 1.0. I know there have been alot of people who are getting in who are interested in "Trying" the game but I hope they actually stick with it and test it well.

Here is hoping for the next batch of invites! :)

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Originally Posted by EnkiOro

Why would you play a game you don't enjoy? You don't deserve more for putting up with stuff nobody forced you to go through with, in the first place. Get off your high horse.

It's random and we have to deal with it. Calm the hell down.

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You are totally right, it's random! That RNG thing pissses me off most, b/c after trying for 2 years every day I couldnt still get lvl1 Onion Doublet! lol Just because of that dumb RNG thing. Everyone I know got it on 2nd or 3rd try...but I got right to be pissed off on RNG thingy after that you know?

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

The testing phase will end very quickly. This has been confirmed. Alpha will be over before the end of the year. I'm sure people will get over it.

But instead of making fun, maybe the JP should feel moved. After all, we're all in it for the same goal. People making fun of those disappointed have no reason to feel superior any more than people who are raging over not getting in have reason to be angry.

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I think the difference here is, raging you didn't get in or being overly excited for stress testing is something you can really poke fun at because that pretty much guarantees most sent an app just to play the game. It's not "superior", it's making fun of how strong the reactions of love/hate has been over simple testing.

How often did you get to the point of pissing your pants in excitement for tests in school compared to going on a field trip?

Translated always by the great Reinhart:

As for the JP rep posts, right now they are just replying to those JP players asking to open up more positions for alpha test and that they can't wait, Foxclon telling them they are planning to open up more slots so hang in there.

Let's cross the fingers :P (i hope that Foxclon is speaking about opening more slots world wide and not only to the complanining JPs) :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by EnkiOro

It's random and we have to deal with it. Calm the hell down.

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LOL! I don't know what makes you think it's random... but it seems pretty obvious that it wasn't.

Heck, SE could have made it alot easier by saying that it'll be based on RNG, but they knew it would be too obvious after the invites went out that it wasn't a 'random' thing. I have not heard of a single Legacy player getting an invite, and if ther are some, I'm assuming it's based on working the past Alpha for the 1.0 client. I've been doing mah research, this wasn't random!! Although yes, some people should prolly calm it down abit.

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Originally Posted by Exn

LOL! I don't know what makes you think it's random... but it seems pretty obvious that it wasn't.

Heck, SE could have made it alot easier by saying that it'll be based on RNG, but they knew it would be too obvious after the invites went out that it wasn't a 'random' thing. I have not heard of a single Legacy player getting an invite, and if ther are some, I'm assuming it's based on working the past Alpha for the 1.0 client. I've been doing mah research, this wasn't random!! Although yes, some people should prolly calm it down abit.

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They're NOT ALLOWED to tell you they've gotten into the alpha @_@.

Quick edit, copypasta-ing from another post in another thread(far far away...) I made earlier today on the same subject:

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Here's the /entire/ NDA:
http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...a=1&tag=tester

Skip to the juicy bit--

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(d) THE IDENTITY OF ALPHA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT ALPHA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE ALPHA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Alpha Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Alpha Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Alpha Tester’s participation in the Alpha Test.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

I think the difference here is, raging you didn't get in or being overly excited for stress testing is something you can really poke fun at because that pretty much guarantees most sent an app just to play the game. It's not "superior", it's making fun of how strong the reactions of love/hate has been over simple testing.

How often did you get to the point of pissing your pants in excitement for tests in school compared to going on a field trip?

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Of course, your feelings of superiority allow to make such presumptions on people's motivations. Even you should understand that game testing is actually qualifiable as fun as you are actually testing a game.

And in this case, it's testing a game that they obviously really like.

You have no reason to poke fun at anyone, Elexia.

EDIT: That said, any requests to reveal who was picked and how they were picked needs to stop.

You not getting in because you've been playing while others who quit is probably intentional. They need people who thought the game was bad the first time around to make sure they like it this time around.

SE isn't looking for Yes men.

I wonder if the SE offices had a pool going to bet on exactly how many rage threads would be created this morning...

http://i.imgur.com/zrS2m.gif

Seems to pretty much sum up the threads lately.

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Originally Posted by Nix

They're NOT ALLOWED to tell you they've gotten into the alpha @_@.

Quick edit, copypasta-ing from another post in another thread(far far away...) I made earlier today on the same subject:

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We already established this Nix. That was me you were having that convo with LOL. They can say whether or not they got an invitation, just not if they accepted the invitation..

Aside from that I was asking if anyone HEARD of any Legacy players getting in... we all have heard of plenty of not-so-actives getting in (and I said I personally know of 2 not-so-actives myself earlier). A Legacy player doesn't have to come to the forums to announce it (most people would call it phone-a-friend).. I just think we should have heard of more (or any) Legacy players getting invites if it was in fact "random". That is why I don't believe it was random, well that and SE said they didnt want to divulge their methodology (if it was completely random I think they would have just said that.. hard to realistically blame them for a RNG).

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Originally Posted by Exn

LOL! I don't know what makes you think it's random... but it seems pretty obvious that it wasn't.

Heck, SE could have made it alot easier by saying that it'll be based on RNG, but they knew it would be too obvious after the invites went out that it wasn't a 'random' thing. I have not heard of a single Legacy player getting an invite, and if ther are some, I'm assuming it's based on working the past Alpha for the 1.0 client. I've been doing mah research, this wasn't random!! Although yes, some people should prolly calm it down abit.

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3 of my friends that gets in is legacy, 2 being active players and 1 haven't play for few months but still paying for the account.

Will this finally shut you off? unlike Dragonheart's friends that only posts at facebook claiming they got into alpha which even my mom could do, my friends actually showed me the picture of client downloading and alpha forum outlook.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...C%81%EF%BD%97?

It was not random. Not truly random.
Everyone answered some question, so if you are in target group your chance to get invite higher. It's obvious, isn't it?
I didn't get one, but there will be one or more waves. I can wait for week or two or three. Any way, one day everyone will play ARR.

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Originally Posted by Nix

There's a lot of us that didn't receive it, but sadly paying every month and supporting the game doesn't guarantee you a spot though I'm pretty sure they mentioned somewhere that they gave some priority to active accounts. They're going to want to entice some people back though and what better way to get them to re-sub once 2.0 hits? To show them the progress they've made so far yet give them a chance to yet again test a game and help them rebuild.

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Sad but true I was gonna rage as well but who cares... yoshi clearly doesn't. I been playing and paying since beta (when they did start making us pay)

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Originally Posted by Yazoo

It was not random. Not truly random.
Everyone answered some question, so if you are in target group your chance to get invite higher. It's obvious, isn't it?
I didn't get one, but there will be one or more waves. I can wait for week or two or three. Any way, one day everyone will play ARR.

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The wait won't even be that long. They said after initial test they will be probably opening the servers 24/7 if everything goes well and invite more people. So I'd expect more invite this week even.

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Originally Posted by Exn

We already established this Nix. That was me you were having that convo with LOL. They can say whether or not they got an invitation, just not if they accepted the invitation..

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Oh gosh you're right haha, you can tell I'm like dead on my feet now lol

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

I'm not whining because i didn't receive the alpha invitation, but a lot of my friend that have quit the game AFTER THE FIRST MONTH FROM THE RELEASE GOT IT! And me (and others of course) supporting the game and paying for the crappy 1.0, didn't receive it.

Only who had an active FFXIV account was supposed to get the invitation right?

Now tell me dear SE, for the love of god WHY??? :mad:

It was a kind of application site bug? If this was wanted? Just need clarification about this.

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I've got two points:

1. Who else to better test the game then those who didn't play or have patience to understand it (sarcasm - noob choices if they picked all the people who left early and hardly played).

2. Perhaps they dont want to disappoint us with server crash tests and want to invite us to the beta where we can actually test gameplay elements rather then "EVERYONE JUMP" *server crashes*.

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Originally Posted by Reika

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...C%81%EF%BD%97?

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??? I thought JP culture was far more patient and even tempered and they walk around with Kimonos all day and drink sake while listening to a zither and painting.

You know like Zen. This changes everything!

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Originally Posted by GavenBylander

Sad but true I was gonna rage as well but who cares... yoshi clearly doesn't. I been playing and paying since beta (when they did start making us pay)

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Could you be any more petulant? You didn't get an invite, therefore the developers don't care? Yeah, it couldn't be that they may also want help from those who were turned off by 1.0 to get a wider perspective. Nope, it's all because they just don't care, darn it! ::Insert massive eye roll here::

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

??? I thought JP culture was far more patient and even tempered and they walk around with Kimonos all day and drink sake while listening to a zither and painting.

You know like Zen. This changes everything!

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You need more anime in your life, sir. Not even the JP think of themselves like that.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

You need more anime in your life, sir. Not even the JP think of themselves like that.

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Lol yeah..as a culture it's definitely a large contrast compared to american culture, but anime/manga truly has warped people's minds.

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Originally Posted by GavenBylander

Sad but true I was gonna rage as well but who cares... yoshi clearly doesn't. I been playing and paying since beta (when they did start making us pay)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdofmoYcJNE

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

They changed their own rules for selection. They decided to go for something other than what was laid out in the rules and even though they can do whatever the hell they want with their test, this leaves much to be desired about them. You would expect a bit of congruity and consistency here.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

You are lying

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I stand by what I said. You misrepresented my position.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

I stand by what I said. You misrepresented my position.

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You claim they went against their rules of selection when you don't know what they are, as they have not released their rules for selection and stated that they will not answer any questions pertaining to their rules of selection.

What criteria of selection that they established and stated will not divulge did they violate?

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

3 of my friends that gets in is legacy, 2 being active players and 1 haven't play for few months but still paying for the account.

Will this finally shut you off? unlike Dragonheart's friends that only posts at facebook claiming they got into alpha which even my mom could do, my friends actually showed me the picture of client downloading and alpha forum outlook.

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Will this finally shut me off? Child please.. I wasn't even talking to you. Moving on from your fail of a post..

AFTER DOING MY OWN RESEARCH, I've found out a friend of mine who has Legacy did get an invite (again, got a copy of the email). He wasn't active and just paying for the account while not playing, in order to Legacy. He also went into abit more detail of what the population looks like from the tester forums and he noticed quite a few people claiming they have Legacy. So as I said before I don't think Legacy has anything to do with it, seems like they were mostly focused on the not-so-active players.

http://leagueofbikepolo.com/sites/le...ugh-you-1.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Exn

Will this finally shut me off? Child please.. I wasn't even talking to you. Moving on from your fail of a post..

AFTER DOING MY OWN RESEARCH, I've found out a friend of mine who has Legacy did get an invite (again, got a copy of the email). He wasn't active and just paying for the account while not playing, in order to Legacy. He also went into abit more detail of what the population looks like from the tester forums and he noticed quite a few people claiming they have Legacy. So as I said before I don't think Legacy has anything to do with it, seems like they were mostly focused on the not-so-active players.

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So basically, you know a guy, who knows some guys, who saw what some guys posted about what some other guys posted about getting into alpha?

lol Look, you don't realy know the ratio of what kinds of people got into alpha. You couldn't possibly. So just chillax. You'll get to play soon enough.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

You claim they went against their rules of selection when you don't know what they are, as they have not released their rules for selection and stated that they will not answer any questions pertaining to their rules of selection.

What criteria of selection that they established and stated will not divulge did they violate?

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I'm talking about the VERY FIRST requirement stated on the alpha test application site. It has been linked now too many times.

I'm simply pointing out that SE changed their minds by admitting non-active accounts. Heck, those people would have realized they weren't eligible just by reading the disclaimer, but applied regardless (well played gentleman).

inviting ppl who quit or have no genuine intrest in the game is lame doing this could have further delayed the game because most those ppl have short play time windows like otheer gamss or just dont care silly SE... :(

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

So basically, you know a guy, who knows some guys, who saw what some guys posted about what some other guys posted about getting into alpha?

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Michael Weston

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

I'm talking about the VERY FIRST requirement stated on the alpha test application site. It has been linked now too many times.

I'm simply pointing out that SE changed their minds by admitting non-active accounts. Heck, those people would have realized they weren't eligible just by reading the disclaimer, but applied regardless (well played gentleman).

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Nope, totally independent of the selection process. The website managed which accounts were and were not able to start applying, demonstrated here:

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Originally Posted by AntonyB

Weird because It would not let me apply to the alpha the first time because my FFXIV account was inactive(I had played before but stopped playing). I then repaid for the service and then was able to send in an application to the alpha, weird.

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i would figure it was just random
legacy or not, but i guess the question is did they include people that have not played since before YP took charge
only one that can answer this question is well SE (most likely will not say) logic stand point why would they include people that really drop the game like a back of shit?

but what do i know i am just some random guy
GL to you who got in and those that didn't round 2 wil be soon

And people still wonder why the official forums are mocked? Good lord. It'd be amazing to see one day without a community meltdown. It's getting to the point where people are imagining conspiracies of why they were not picked up.

To the people that weren't picked up, fill your time with whatever you had planned to do until you were picked up, and to those who were picked up, please work your best to ensure 2.0 is a success.

Why don`t SE just invite everyone? xD And test the servers right away. xD
That would be interesting.

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

So basically, you know a guy, who knows some guys, who saw what some guys posted about what some other guys posted about getting into alpha?

lol Look, you don't realy know the ratio of what kinds of people got into alpha. You couldn't possibly. So just chillax. You'll get to play soon enough.

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"Testing". This is about testing, not playing. Thanks for showing what your true intent is though. I'm not claiming to know the ratio, just posting my opinion based on the evidence I've seen (and this is "seen", not heard of thru a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend like you tried to imply..).

As a matter of FACT, that ratio you mentioned is exactly what alot of the testers are trying their best to figure out for themselves right now, but you wouldn't know that because you can't 'see' anything.. you just heard sumthing from some guy, who knows some guy, etc....