FRU has been cleared without Tanks!

How many Third party programs have been used?

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

And in which fight is SMN being excluded? I am currently progging FRU, and I have never seen any SMN being kicked or told to leave, but do please enlighten me: which fight are you progging and you saw this behaviour taking place?

Also, you either care about overall balance or not talk shit 24/7 saying you care about the game and its balance state. Do you just pick whatever suits you and your biased narrative that has very little to do with reality and the actual state of the game?

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PCT to SMN has a 32 to 1 clear rate, that’s more ergregious than the worst of the worst of WOW’s “I’ll dox ya grandma if you join as this job” and far worse than balance defenders pet defence of HW PLD

And like I’ve said before I don’t care about balance, I care that the jobs are grey slop in pursuit of balance and they still can’t balance them which is actually why I don’t really mind the above discrepancy between PCT and SMN, because PCT is trying to do something different. But I know I’d be pissed if I was one of SMN’s 3 mains

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Congratulations to the team achieving this. Mad respect.
People crying about the holy trinity of DPS, Healer and Tank falling apart have probably never seen an on content Ultimate or Savage fight from the inside.
The average playerbase cant pull this off. The average playerbase cant even soloheal sphene without wiping half of the time. There is no need to worry boys. Healers and Tanks will still be needed in the future. :)

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Hahaha yeah pretty much.

I love how they say tanks have too many mits while I constantly watch tanks explode from Powder Mark in FRU because OT failed to give MT co-tank Buff.
Also, all these people who say healing is overtuned never tried to heal Burnished Glory, which was poorly mitted.

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

Also, all these people who say healing is overtuned never tried to heal Burnished Glory, which was poorly mitted.

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I love how you have literally made the argument of the opposing side here and still missed the point

Healing is overtuned because if you do mit it correctly your healing is stupidly overtuned to heal up afterwards, if you don’t mit properly you basically explode

Either way you don’t need 8 500 potency regens on a 2 minute CD

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

PCT to SMN has a 32 to 1 clear rate, that’s more ergregious than the worst of the worst of WOW’s “I’ll dox ya grandma if you join as this job” and far worse than balance defenders pet defence of HW PLD

And like I’ve said before I don’t care about balance, I care that the jobs are grey slop in pursuit of balance and they still can’t balance them which is actually why I don’t really mind the above discrepancy between PCT and SMN, because PCT is trying to do something different. But I know I’d be pissed if I was one of SMN’s 3 mains

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I have no clue where you got that data from, but fine, I will humor you. The ratio isn't low because people were forced to switch from SMN.
I personally find both PCT and SMN pretty boring, but that's just me.

Why would you exclude UWU from balancing? Do you actually care about balance?

I am still waiting for that example of the fight that you are progging ATM and in which SMN is being kicked/excluded. You got me curious so?

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

I have no clue where you got that data from, but fine, I will humor you. The ratio isn't low because people were forced to switch from SMN.
I personally find both PCT and SMN pretty boring, but that's just me.

Why would you exclude UWU from balancing? Do you actually care about balance?

I am still waiting for that example of the fight that you are progging ATM and in which SMN is being kicked/excluded. You got me curious so?

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“I’m waiting for that example of people being kicked/excluded”


Edit correction on my part it’s a 23 to 1 pure ratio (ie how many clears PCT has vs how many SMN has) it’s a 32 to 1 ratio on clears of PCT that DONT have SMN vs clears of SMN that DONT have PCT

Literally FRU. You don’t get a 32 to 1 ratio just because people vaguely prefer PCT (your opinions on either are irrelevant to this discussion). PF’s all over are locking caster spots to PCT and if they allow double caster they discourage all but RDM. This was a big controversy when unsurprisingly PCT was incredibly powerful in FRU

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I love how you have literally made the argument of the opposing side here and still missed the point

Healing is overtuned because if you do mit it correctly your healing is stupidly overtuned to heal up afterwards, if you don’t mit properly you basically explode

Either way you don’t need 8 500 potency regens on a 2 minute CD

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If healing as overtuned as you state it is, you wouldn't need to mit, and you would just spam heals.

I'm also wondering, have you ever tried to heal in FRU? You've been playing for 14 years, and your comments suggest that you have, so could you share some advice with me?

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

If healing as overtuned as you state it is, you wouldn't need to mit, and you would just spam heals.

I'm also wondering, have you ever tried to heal in FRU? You've been playing for 14 years, and your comments suggest that you have, so could you share some advice with me?

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Both mit and healing can be overtuned at the same time, it's not a vacuum of either/or...

More appropriately, the content is undertuned for what we actually have.

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

If healing as overtuned as you state it is, you wouldn't need to mit, and you would just spam heals.

I'm also wondering, have you ever tried to heal in FRU? You've been playing for 14 years, and your comments suggest that you have, so could you share some advice with me?

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You really are grasping at straws now. Stop pretending mitigation and healing are two entirely distinct things, it makes you look unserious.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

“I’m waiting for that example of people being kicked/excluded”


Edit correction on my part it’s a 23 to 1 pure ratio (ie how many clears PCT has vs how many SMN has) it’s a 32 to 1 ratio on clears of PCT that DONT have SMN vs clears of SMN that DONT have PCT

Literally FRU. You don’t get a 32 to 1 ratio just because people vaguely prefer PCT (your opinions on either are irrelevant to this discussion). PF’s all over are locking caster spots to PCT and if they allow double caster they discourage all but RDM. This was a big controversy when unsurprisingly PCT was incredibly powerful in FRU

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That is just a number. I have been progging in PF a lot these days, and I have NEVER seen a party locking in a spot for PCT, maybe because it's also against the ToS too..LOL.

PCT is highly effective in ultimates because of its frequent downtimes and the way it can mitigate those moments by simply painting. PCT would be overpowered if it excelled in every single battle, but it doesn’t.

I love numbers, so let's see more of it :
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/58?boss=1071
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/58?boss=1078

PCT is OP, right........