Can we get an in-game notice for Auto-demolition

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

No one said there was a "bug." The people I mentioned thought using their outside items counted as "access." It didn't though, and they obviously didn't read the full demolition email.

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And that's their fault, so what is the problem ?

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.

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And it's a suggestion that many of us feel is unnecessary because of the other notifications already offered. Hundreds of thousands of players have no problem keeping their house. Why does SE need to change things for the 0.0002% that can't seem to remember they own one?

SE is the one who set the policy of enter it once every forty-five days or forfeit the house. They have set the standard for who deserves one and who doesn't.

Do I want a system where demolition isn't even necessary so this entire discussion would be pointless? Definitely, but until such time as we get such a system I've got no sympathy for those who buy into the system then don't maintain use of it. As several of us have repeated in this thread, if players are using their house then the notifications are not necessary.

As for players who don't bother to check their timers, that's their choice. I will check mine several times a week. About the only timers listed that I ignore are the ones for Leve allowances and Ehcatl Nine deliveries. They're extremely helpful when it comes to keeping track of what's been done if you have more than one character.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

In the past couple months there have been a couple posts on twitter about people gardening, using their target dummies, checking their mail, and they assumed that was "accessing their estate." Until their house went poof. Maybe if they had read the whole email, their houses would have been saved.

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The resident caretaker has information on the entire housing system in-game. Both the housing unlock quest and the active help window tell you speak to a resident caretaker for more information about housing. If people are capable of finding out how buying a house works, they are also able to find out how auto-demolition works.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

And it's a suggestion that many of us feel is unnecessary because of the other notifications already offered. Hundreds of thousands of players have no problem keeping their house. Why does SE need to change things for the 0.0002% that can't seem to remember they own one?

SE is the one who set the policy of enter it once every forty-five days or forfeit the house. They have set the standard for who deserves one and who doesn't.

Do I want a system where demolition isn't even necessary so this entire discussion would be pointless? Definitely, but until such time as we get such a system I've got no sympathy for those who buy into the system then don't maintain use of it. As several of us have repeated in this thread, if players are using their house then the notifications are not necessary.

As for players who don't bother to check their timers, that's their choice. I will check mine several times a week. About the only timers listed that I ignore are the ones for Leve allowances and Ehcatl Nine deliveries. They're extremely helpful when it comes to keeping track of what's been done if you have more than one character.

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It's a suggestion thread. SE did set the system, but that doesn't mean someone can't post an idea that might be an improvement. There are many threads posting what people thinking might be helpful to improve the game, and I don't see nearly the amount of vitriol in those threads as I've seen here. Just like you said, you have no sympathy. That's fine, but does that really belong here? Does it add anything constructive for or against this argument. No. It just comes off plain mean. You're just as much part of the problem as many others on this thread. It's cool to disagree. Both sides of an argument should be presented, but there's no need to be mean or cruel about it like many of the posters ganging up on the OP.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

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I 100% agree with you, it'd be great if people actually read what the resident caretaker had to say. Some don't though, or they just skip the auto demo portion. There are people who do read what the resident caretaker has to say, but they get busy or distracted with other stuff things. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson after the first demo, but an in-game notification that's easily visibile would be a nice qol feature for those that are logging in.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

It's a suggestion thread. SE did set the system, but that doesn't mean someone can't post an idea that might be an improvement. There are many threads posting what people thinking might be helpful to improve the game, and I don't see nearly the amount of vitriol in those threads as I've seen here. Just like you said, you have no sympathy. That's fine, but does that really belong here? Does it add anything constructive for or against this argument. No. It just comes off plain mean. You're just as much part of the problem as many others on this thread. It's cool to disagree. Both sides of an argument should be presented, but there's no need to be mean or cruel about it like many of the posters ganging up on the OP.

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This isn't an emotional support forum. It's a discussion forum and there's going to be some pretty blunt critique of ideas and suggestions presented. Certainly I've had some of my own suggestions battered on the anvil but I don't come back with "gee, everyone is so mean".

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I 100% agree with you, it'd be great if people actually read what the resident caretaker had to say. Some don't though, or they just skip the auto demo portion. There are people who do read what the resident caretaker has to say, but they get busy or distracted with other stuff things. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson after the first demo, but an in-game notification that's easily visibile would be a nice qol feature for those that are logging in.

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Something I've argued for is a separate quest that unlocks when the player finally meets the requirements to purchase a house. The time for the player to be reading what the Resident Caretaker has to say is when they're able to purchase, not 40 levels earlier when they have quite a bit to do before becoming eligible.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Something I've argued for is a separate quest that unlocks when the player finally meets the requirements to purchase a house. The time for the player to be reading what the Resident Caretaker has to say is when they're able to purchase, not 40 levels earlier when they have quite a bit to do before becoming eligible.

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Off-topic, but people can currently purchase a free company house at level 2. A player can form their own free company at level 25. As long as a person has been in a free company for 30 days, has the correct permissions, and has access to the housing area they want to buy, a player can bid on a free company house at any level. Not everyone is going to be hitting level 50 within 30 days depending on their work, school, and rl engagements. If someone is low level, and have inherited a free company, we'd want them to have access to how housing works.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

Off-topic, but people can currently purchase a free company house at level 2. A player can form their own free company at level 25. As long as a person has been in a free company for 30 days, has the correct permissions, and has access to the housing area they want to buy, a player can bid on a free company house at any level. Not everyone is going to be hitting level 50 within 30 days depending on their work, school, and rl engagements. If someone is low level, and have inherited a free company, we'd want them to have access to how housing works.

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How about we stop babysitting people ? The resources are there in the game to know how housing works, stop with the handholding

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I've only seen one person suggest a big toast notification. A message in your chat log when you login or a notification like the current lottery notification would be enough imo. If someone misses those, or turns off their notifications, then that's on them. It definitely isn't going to stop all demolitions. People want to take breaks from the game, and don't want to resubscribe just to save their house. It's common to see on twitter people pondering whether they want to login to save their house. I haven't counted, but I'd guess so far it's about 50/50 that people decide it's worth their time or money. The in game notifications will probably be for outliers, where email failed, and people realized oops, using my target dummy doesn't count as using my house.

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I've seen people requesting popup notifications similar to a toast for years on this forum, there is a lot of examples if you dig around on this housing section of the forum.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

On the housing discord, just this week.

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Oh "the housing discord", like everyone knows what that even means

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I 100% agree with you, it'd be great if people actually read what the resident caretaker had to say. Some don't though, or they just skip the auto demo portion. There are people who do read what the resident caretaker has to say, but they get busy or distracted with other stuff things. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson after the first demo, but an in-game notification that's easily visibile would be a nice qol feature for those that are logging in.

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If they are too busy to read the rules, they are too busy to own a house. The only qol needed is for the auto demo to take their house away and let someone who actually knows how housing works get a house.